Cheap Easy way for bulking-UP,but only if your HARDCORE???

Back in the old gym days where I come from, we used to tell newbies to our gym that eating dog food was one of the best ways to get big from all the crude protein. When the guy telling you this benches 315 like its a pile of feathers, you figure ahhhh, so thats it. So when you down you're oil like Pete says, add some Kibbles an Bits for a potent stack gauranteed to pack on muscle mass around the rim of you're asshole as you violently spew detonating butt-nuggets into you're hopper!!!! :D
 
Correct me if I'm wrong, but 3 cups of this oil would yield 600 grams of fat?!? Also, 25 lbs of muscle in two weeks is not possible. I have put 10 lbs on in two weeks before and the majority of it was water and fat. I'd venture to say maybe 1lb was lean tissue.
I've learned that it's best to take a marathon approach to mass gains to stay healthier. Gains will obviously be slower but will be clean weight.

-T1
 
Grizzly said:
You have premarital sex? I'm ashamed of you, Bob.
Nope, we're not. But if I was in the bathroom sh*tting my brains out, I doubt I would feel like gettin any action of any kind.
 
Eat Big to get Big?

A Calorie is a Calorie.Consume alot of Calories you get bigger,YOU GROW!!! Or have you ever see a small PRO???mmm, how do you reackon they get big???Now what about some of them PRO`s, they claimed to take about 8,000 to 12,500 calories, to grow, now don`t you think they should be Fat,Think not, the more Muscle, the less fat!!
 
pete said:
A Calorie is a Calorie.Consume alot of Calories you get bigger,YOU GROW!!! Or have you ever see a small PRO???mmm, how do you reackon they get big???Now what about some of them PRO`s, they claimed to take about 8,000 to 12,500 calories, to grow, now don`t you think they should be Fat,Think not, the more Muscle, the less fat!!
A calorie is a calorie, until you start looking at how calories are partitioned between the genetic elite (the pros you refer to) and normal joes (the rest of us). The genetic elite can eat a boatload of calories and the majority of them are going to go towards refilling glycogen, used for energy, and for building muscle. This is due to many factors, of which include many, many hormones (naturally and augmented). The vast majority of normal people (the other 99% of the population) doesnt partition nutrients anywhere NEAR that effective. The rest of our bodies tend towards excess calories going to glycogen, energy, and fat accumulation. To compare how pros react to nutrition (or training) to normal people is like comparing a Mercedes SL 55AMG to a Ford Taurus. Both have 4 tires, an engine, and a sterring wheel but would you say they look, function or perform the same? Absolutely not. Those two cars shouldnt even be parked next to one another, let alone mentioned in the same sentance,

I think a lot of the claims of 10k calories is total BS that the magazines have come up with just to fill space and not based on anything factual.

I find it highly suspect that any person (gifted or normal) can put on 25 pounds of lean mass in 2 weeks, unless they just came off a major layoff or injury, and were "assisted." Other than those instances, I dont think its even physiologically possible for that to happen.
 
Ok, I read this post and I have to respond.

1. Do NOT eat this much fat. It is very unhealthy. Think about it this way: You are already eating 6k in calories, and now you drink that much fat? Ok, then add in the fact your are on androgens that cause a rise in blood pressure. Then add to the fact you are going from sleeping 10hrs a day to working out with 100% intensity. In short, what is being recommended is a stroke waiting to happen.

2. If you need more calories, then eat more clean food or eat more often. It isnt very difficult.

3. Look at Pete's claims. 25lbs of Ripped muscle? Physiologically, that would take a very long time. It wouldnt just show up overnight.

4. "Calorie is a calorie" theory has been repeatedly proven outdated. We now know that fats, proteins and carbohydrates effect the body in different ways. This has to be taken under consideration.

5. Professional Bodybuilders who eat 10k in the offseason ARE fat. Pros have no problem with walking around with an added 50lbs of fat. There are two major myths with regards to professional bodybuilders: the first being that they have low BF% year round. In reality, most pros (with some exceptions) are very fat in the offseason. The other myth is that bodybuilders are healthy.

In short, if you need to eat more calories, then do it the right way. There is no reason to drink 2k calories in fat, when you could add two more meals of lean chicken and rice to your daily intake. Bodybuilding is a marathon, not a sprint, so eating healthy, training properly and sleeping enough are essential to anyone who wishes to make bodybuilding a lifelong journey.

Your friend,

Mark
 
Good points, Mark. I think too many of us forget that along with being big and lean, we also want to be healthy. Oftentimes, its easy to overlook the health effects of some of the things we do to our bodies.
 
BS made a very important point that many newbies should have picked up. When you go on to internet chat boards or read muscle mags, people always try to emulate the behavior and routines of professional bodybuilders. We cannot do that. What Jay Cutler eats, how he trains and how often he sleeps should not be copied by the average bodybuilder. If I were to copy Ronnie Coleman, I would be fat, overtrained and probably injured.

Your friend,

Mark
 
A calorie (which is actually a kilocalorie when referring to food) is merely a scientific measurement of energy and nothing more. For example, one food calorie (kcal) is enough energy to heat up one gram of water one degree Celsius; you learn this is simple high-school chemistry. A calorie is absolutely a calorie, but it has virtually NOTHING to do with nutrition. I cannot for the life of me figure out why people even bother measuring calories anymore.

Personally, I measure by grams in three categories which are obviously; proteins (4 calories), carbohydrates (4), and fats (9) as it is far more specific and accurate. Like Ive previously read on this thread, anyone can easily eat only 4 whopper meals and 5 pieces of cheese cake and get his 10k of calories, but wont gain very much muscle at all. Shit I wish I could become Mr. Universe by drinking a 12 pack of Corona every day.

No matter what I do as far as cardio, even with a low sodium, fat, and simple/empty carb intake my basal metabolic rate (BMR) will not allow me to go above 4000 as I begin to get noticeably fatter, so I see no reason in eating this much. Anything your metabolism cannot handle, which include fats, carbs, and proteins will be deposited and stored as FAT DEPOSITES. You will NOT gain any more muscle by eating more than your training and body will allow, PERIOD.

Additional Pete, nothing absolutely NOTHING gets bigger or stronger in the human body without protein, there is absolutely no way in hell to bypass this and my guess is your claim of a 25 increase is well spread out fat.
 
hey bob, lets nominate this thread for the funniest thread so far for 04.

i read this shit, and laughed my ass off,....funny shit...

....3 cups of oil......lol....the only thing being "ripped" would be my asshole!

-mechanic-



pete said:
A Calorie is a Calorie.Consume alot of Calories you get bigger,YOU GROW!!! Or have you ever see a small PRO???mmm, how do you reackon they get big???Now what about some of them PRO`s, they claimed to take about 8,000 to 12,500 calories, to grow, now don`t you think they should be Fat,Think not, the more Muscle, the less fat!!
 
They do get fat. Have you ever seen a Pro BBer in his off season. Fat is an understatement...O sorry didn't know there was a second page to this lol
 
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pete forgot to post his pale b4 and tan after pics with 25 lbs of muscle in two weeks added to his frame bwahahahaha
 
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