Can you guys get actually fat on a high dose of GH + ASS?

Now after accepting that you can get fat - there are still some compounds though, which may slow this process down & make it more difficult to be honest.

I would say GH is definitely one of them.

What else do you guys think? Any experiences on this? Tren?
back in the day Tren wasn the only aas that raised igf1 production in the body and that6 shit is to important ...it fixed old car wreck neck injury and shoulder tear during lifting.. estrogen had to be mixed with the tren during cattle runs because the flesh would be to lean and many reports stating their weight would increase even during a time of forced fast and extreme stress AKA being packed in a cattle trailer
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Dafuq you talking about tren decrease igf1 in the blood lol
back in the day Tren wasn the only aas that raised igf1 production in the body and that6 shit is to important ...it fixed old car wreck neck injury and shoulder tear during lifting.. estrogen had to be mixed with the tren during cattle runs because the flesh would be to lean and many reports stating their weight would increase even during a time of forced fast and extreme stress AKA being packed in a cattle trailer
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Dafuq you talking about tren decrease igf1 in the blood lol
isnt there some interaction with IGF binding proteins wich get lowered so there is more IGF-1 in specific tissues but less measurable IGF in the blood?
or was that with anadrol raising IBFbp2 due to its impact on estrogen recycling
 
isnt there some interaction with IGF binding proteins wich get lowered so there is more IGF-1 in specific tissues but less measurable IGF in the blood?
or was that with anadrol raising IBFbp2 due to its impact on estrogen recycling
There are I believe spculation about it but we have no way to measure it tho I believe unless you do a biopsy of your muscle
 
Sure you can. I don't even know why anyone would think high dose AAS and GH would magically keep you super lean no matter how much you over eat.
 
This is more for my general interest about the lipolysis from GH + ASS

For those of you that have run at least 10 IU + a heavy cycle (at least 1gram per week) of ASS: can you actually get fat?

Like have you actually managed to eat enough to get significantly fat, meaning 20% bodyfat?

I simply cant get my head around it how you manage to really eat enough to get fat when running lets say 12 IU of HGH and 600mg test +600mg DHB/ DECA etc.

especially when eating clean AND keeping your insuline resistance in line (im mentioning this to exclude "stuffing yourself with corn sirupe and sugar all day")

Dude have you never seen a powerlifter???
 
You just don't eat my man.

I can get fat like a donut no problem on heavy HGH and heavy AAS, you just need to eat lol
i have a "client"(im coaching him for his blast): 320g Protein, 110g fat, and 800g of Carbs at 103kg. Cycle: 12-15IU HGH (official 12 IU but reqlistically more like 15IU), 600mg Test, 400mg Deca, 300mg EQ.

He puts on weight, so thats good. But almost NO fat. You may ask yourself: well whats the problem, thats great?!

Yes it is, however typically on blast especially on the first real blast i tell people to titratd it in. Meaning, on cycle your metabolism CAN Change completely, so bump the calories up till you get to fat to fast, then reduce them again. Everybody is different.

However this guy kinda freaks me out. Because at those values i would be rolling down the street im short time.

However i also never ran myself such a heavy cycle (most i did was 600mg Test, 600mg DHB and 6IUs of GH and some Tbol at the end) and my metabolism is very slow in general.

And yes he eats what he should. I have no doubt about that, i know him well.
 
i have a "client"(im coaching him for his blast): 320g Protein, 110g fat, and 800g of Carbs at 103kg. Cycle: 12-15IU HGH (official 12 IU but reqlistically more like 15IU), 600mg Test, 400mg Deca, 300mg EQ.

He puts on weight, so thats good. But almost NO fat. You may ask yourself: well whats the problem, thats great?!

Yes it is, however typically on blast especially on the first real blast i tell people to titratd it in. Meaning, on cycle your metabolism CAN Change completely, so bump the calories up till you get to fat to fast, then reduce them again. Everybody is different.

However this guy kinda freaks me out. Because at those values i would be rolling down the street im short time.

However i also never ran myself such a heavy cycle (most i did was 600mg Test, 600mg DHB and 6IUs of GH and some Tbol at the end) and my metabolism is very slow in general.

And yes he eats what he should. I have no doubt about that, i know him well.
What is his height? Ive found that taller individuals tend to need more aggressive food intake to put mass on especially with cardio and if they have an active lifestyle
 

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