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Jurgen
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This depends on a lot of missing information.
But for the basics, I just bulked up to 260, I started at 4000 ended at 5500. I didn’t really start upping my eating seriously until week 2 then I really started logging everything. Going for a pound a week
But if you don’t care much about excess fat you can jump right into eating 1-2k surplus and maintain that. For me I didn’t gain any excess fat visibly the way I did it. Eating sucks lol
But for the basics, I just bulked up to 260, I started at 4000 ended at 5500. I didn’t really start upping my eating seriously until week 2 then I really started logging everything. Going for a pound a week
But if you don’t care much about excess fat you can jump right into eating 1-2k surplus and maintain that. For me I didn’t gain any excess fat visibly the way I did it. Eating sucks lol
If you’re bulking right jumping to a large surplus is gonna cut short the total headroom you have to add cals. You can only eat so much and eating shit with crap macros doesn’t serve muscle building. Watch the mirror and the scale, add 50-100g carbs when it stops depending on how sensitive you are. My bulks go from ~3.5k to ~6.5k typically. ~3k cals, 500-700g of carbs added over 16-24 weeks depending.
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Would you bulk from 15%?
Me personally no, because I know if I’m at 15% that’s usually an end of bulk for me. However, if you started at 15% and squeezed out 2-3%/5lbs of recomp in the beginning then sure. I hate using bodyfat % as a reference.
Do you have visible abs? Are you insulin sensitive? Are you “comfortable” or already hating life before you add 10-20lbs?
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I did do a bulk last year; I started at 223, and I got up to 247, and I was not a fan lol...
My last cut was after this bulk, which took I took my time, I went from 240 and got down to 213lb. I was burnt out, so now I'm basically going back to eating 3500 calories which is my maintenance, as I've been hovering 225lb since I stopped. I basically look like my avatar right now.
Thing is, I want bigger arms, shoulders, and calves, and cutting again won't achieve that...so I was advised to maintain then bulk to a better 240, accepting the fact I'll get a bit fatter.
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Where did cals on the cut end up?
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I updated the post with some pictures above, before you responded lol...
The cals were around 2550.
My dumb ass was experimenting with 50mcg of T3 the entire time from Feb to July (I think this was the real culprit to diet fatigue, despite doing two diet breaks): I also used clen, and hitting the gym 6x a week. At one point, I was fucking with 10ius of GH ED, just to see what would happen; I was taking 5ius ED.
Thanks for the reply.
When increasing your calories where do the increases come from? IE: Protein, carbs, fats
Or do you keep fairly static ratios and all of them naturally increase?
Thanks for the insight.
Clean eating is the focus. So your protein and fats stay fairly static and the caloric increase comes from carbs? Obviously some trace fats and protein are unavoidable.
The mirror and scale can be a bit difficult as water gain comes on with the additional gear. I went up 5 lbs in just over 10 days, but it is mathematically impossible for this to be tissue accumulation. Mind fuckery.
I don’t add a calorie until my initial gear saturation hits. Those changes can be massive; ideally recomp but water also plays a factor. All carbs. My protein and fats stay around 350-400/90-110 all year except for end of prep. Carbs are the main lever.
Thats interesting about waiting until saturation.
So likely 2-3 weeks, depending on esters, then you increase calories?
Makes a ton of sense instead of starting to up cals asap.
Can you comment on carb choices? Once you are up at your top caloric intake, do you rely on carbs that are low in fiber to ease the volume of food you are eating?
JesterBOB
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What are your favorite carbohydrates? Or do you not care what it is, the main effect as a result?
The ones I can digest best; which is almost always rice. Rice, rice cereals, fruit, and juice.
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Mac, do you mind giving me your opinion based on the photos I posed above?
JesterBOB
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And the fact that fruits do not go into glycogen, as far as I know, does not affect the form for the worse, or am I mistaken? Thanks for the answer.
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