Boldenone is underrated.

[AlwaysHungry]

Guys, please stop spreading nonsense.

Progressive overload applies to everything training, food, PEDs.

Training:
If you have a solid program, you will progress. Training is a skill, and just like any skill, practice makes perfect. We practice our training every single session.

Food:
If food alone was enough, nobody would bother with AAS. Food has a ceiling. You can push calories to 5k, 6k, 8k, even 10k… but where does it end? At some point it’s not fueling growth anymore, it’s just overeating. And overeating wrecks your health: fat gain, digestion issues, esophagus problems, lipid profile destroyed. Long-term, overeating can do more harm than AAS.

The key:
Optimize your training. Optimize your diet (example: 6k calories from foods you actually digest well and don’t make you feel terrible). Then, when you hit the wall, that’s when PEDs come in. Add AAS. Growth stalls? Add more gear. Still stuck? That’s where GH/slin comes in.

If you’re not progressing anymore even on 2–3g AAS with GH/slin, that’s your signal for a cut or a reset. Of course, you can push further but understand you’re trading a significant chunk of your health for very minimal extra gains.

 

[The Answ3r]

Brother i think this might have happened to me as well. Last off season after almost 4 months on test/eq and last weeks npp and anadrol my HCT was 45,5.

I cruised for almost 8 weeks on 250 test / 150 mast and after cruise my HCT was on all time highest, 47%.

Then it didn't make sense, i thought i wasn't hydrated enough but perhaps that delay in saturation of EQ might play a role here.

That’s a weird one brother, hope things even out for you soon. I pushed my water up to 5L, cardio bumped from 30 min up to a full hour, and added 400 mg pentoxifylline. It won’t fix HCT directly, but it should make the blood flow a little smoother. Got labs next Friday, so we’ll see if it was just the lab messing up or if I’m cooked and need to back off on TRT for a while. Some guys also use baby aspirin, nattokinase, or IP6 to help manage it. And yeah, blood donation is always the fast track, but I’m trying to hold off before I hand over another pint.

 

[baht]

Also doesn't help if you're an athlete getting tested

 

[professionaldyel]

Guys, please stop spreading nonsense.

Progressive overload applies to everything training, food, PEDs.

saying you need to up your dosage every blast is spreading non sense lol.

 

[Eddie.]

That’s a weird one brother, hope things even out for you soon. I pushed my water up to 5L, cardio bumped from 30 min up to a full hour, and added 400 mg pentoxifylline. It won’t fix HCT directly, but it should make the blood flow a little smoother. Got labs next Friday, so we’ll see if it was just the lab messing up or if I’m cooked and need to back off on TRT for a while. Some guys also use baby aspirin, nattokinase, or IP6 to help manage it. And yeah, blood donation is always the fast track, but I’m trying to hold off before I hand over another pint.

I guess IP6 will help, is one of the most known for high HCT, also if you can get your hands on methylene blue some say it helps with lowering HCT. Nattokinase is very good too. I'd avoid aspirin, i'd take it only if platelets were borderline high which yours ain't. Good call on trying to avoid blood donation as well.

 

[Scruf]

Good (No I don’t need bloodwork to know

How often do you get blood work?

 

[Moulefruit]

How often do you get blood work?

3 or 4 times per year

 

[TTren]

Last time I used EQ i ran 1200mg test 300 EQ and 600 tren and i had 0 gyno issues no arimidex needed eq is mandatory for 2 gram+ cycles imo

 

[AlwaysHungry]

saying you need to up your dosage every blast is spreading non sense lol.

It always depends on where you’re at with your diet training goals.

If you’re maxed out on food and you have optimised your training , what you gonna do ? Run 500mg test cycle after cycle and pray ?

 

[Scruf]

3 or 4 times per year

Perfect

 

[professionaldyel]

It always depends on where you’re at with your diet training goals.

If you’re maxed out on food and you have optimised your training , what you gonna do ? Run 500mg test cycle after cycle and pray ?

theres no way youre being this obtuse in the conversation. As an example you can literally run your first 3 to 4 cycles at 500mg of test you dont need to up the dose after every blast. You can literally run 2-4 cycles at 750mg of test you dont need to up the dose after every cycle.

this is a very basic concept.

 

[AlwaysHungry]

theres no way youre being this obtuse in the conversation. As an example you can literally run your first 3 to 4 cycles at 500mg of test you dont need to up the dose after every blast. You can literally run 2-4 cycles at 750mg of test you dont need to up the dose after every cycle.

this is a very basic concept.

You said cycles that means PCT in the end ?
You gaining back just what you had lost during the pct or you getting excited with different looks from different steroids.

You talking just for a regular guy in the experimental phase with steroids
1 cycle let’s do 500 test 2nd cycle 250 test 250 deca 3rd cycle 500 test with different diet etc.

Yeah that way you can keep things spicy and gain a little bit , but for a seasoned guy with optimal training optimal nutrition, escalating drugs is the only variable that he can increase.

I specifically talked about food and overeating and from one point and then it’s not optimal to increase your food intake but your drug intake.

 

[dinfar1337]

you dont need to up the dose after every cycle

he never wrote this.

 

[Scruf]

theres no way youre being this obtuse in the conversation. As an example you can literally run your first 3 to 4 cycles at 500mg of test you dont need to up the dose after every blast. You can literally run 2-4 cycles at 750mg of test you dont need to up the dose after every cycle.

this is a very basic concept.

In my experience, you can grow on 500mg of Test at any point in your Bodybuilding journey. You may not grow as fast as you want but make no bones about it, if you can’t grow on 500mg of test then there is something very wrong. Dont get me wrong, if you are very advanced and hold a lot of muscle then the gains will be slower than a newer bodybuilder.

 

[AlwaysHungry]

So I can grow indefinitely on 500mg of test ? Just slower ?
Interesting…

 

[professionaldyel]

You said cycles that means PCT in the end ?
You gaining back just what you had lost during the pct or you getting excited with different looks from different steroids.

You talking just for a regular guy in the experimental phase with steroids
1 cycle let’s do 500 test 2nd cycle 250 test 250 deca 3rd cycle 500 test with different diet etc.

Yeah that way you can keep things spicy and gain a little bit , but for a seasoned guy with optimal training optimal nutrition, escalating drugs is the only variable that he can increase.

I specifically talked about food and overeating and from one point and then it’s not optimal to increase your food intake but your drug intake.

why would cycles mean pct? especially when i said blast? I'm genuinely pretty dumbfounded that you cant grasp whats being said when its very elementary.

 

[AlwaysHungry]

why would cycles mean pct? especially when i said blast? I'm genuinely pretty dumbfounded that you cant grasp whats being said when its very elementary.

Such silly arguments cycling and BnC are different or at least they used to be.

But why don’t y tell me I can still grow blast after blast while I’ve maxed out food intake and training while keep the same dosage ?

 

[professionaldyel]

Such silly arguments cycling and BnC are different or at least they used to be.

But why don’t y tell me I can still grow blast after blast while I’ve maxed out food intake and training while keep the same dosage ?

there has to be a language barrier or something because this conversation has been very neatly laid out multiple times and you're still not getting it

 

[AlwaysHungry]

there has to be a language barrier or something because this conversation has been very neatly laid out multiple times and you're still not getting it

Seems like the issue isn’t really a language barrier but rather low experience on your side which is why we’re clearly not speaking the same ‘language’. Add in a poor ability to grasp what I’m actually saying, and maybe just a touch of steroid fueled ego mixed with inexperience, and here we are.

 

[RaddishPork]

My best cycles have always had EQ in them. I like the mental benefits of masteron, and primo did its job in pretty much feeling like it didn't exist.

But the endurance boost and AI effect make EQ too convenient for me. It seems to dry me out more than masteron because of the e2 management. No water retention from wet compounds or GH. Actually allows me to add stuff like ment or nandrolone without feeling gross. Granted, I dont push over 1g on cycles. Something like 400 test / 400 eq / 200 deca is pretty cookie cutter for me.

It does push my blood counts to the upper range(s), but never so high that they stopped me from donating semi-regularly. The place I go to gives me like $80 in gift cards / miscellaneous rewards because I have O negative blood.