justtrtbro
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Oh wait. Doesn't UD last like 25 days? In that case doesn't it make sense to have cyp etc
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Mrhairyman
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That and the possible anxiety side effects are keeping me away.
BigDadd7
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Nice!
cap’nboldenone
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The high hct concerns with EQ are overblown. All AAS are going to increase RBCs, and if you’re prone to hct issues then you’re going to have them. We don’t mind using the long ester because EQ is generally pretty well tolerated.
justtrtbro
Member
Right on! It appears I'm not prone to it myself, but I've not done anything beyond 100mg per week of TC. Fingers crossed Ig
malomkarom
Member
Oh yeah. I'm a huge fan of EQ, my number 1 injectable by far.
First off, if you're doing EQ and not Bold Cyp or Ace, don't bother under 20 weeks.
If you have hematocrit issues you'd feel you need to donate to improve, just find something else. First off, donations do fuck all. It's a very acute and only "sensed" improvement, it doesn't do shit. It doesn't lower it anywhere near enough. Second, the thing is even if you're pinning for 3 months cause your blood is gel by week 12, you are about 2,5 months late with stopping. It's gonna be a 4-5 month blast anyway and it's only gonna get worse.
Also... don't do grams of it... If you are impatient and can't wait a few months for it to peak and be as anabolic as it can be, just do cyp and deal with the pip. I'M 100% convinced the stupid 1g+ thing is only cause people won't fucking wait for it to work then get surprised by the side effects and can't get rid of them for months.
No injectable should be ran much over 1g in my opinnion whoever you are, especially not something as toxic as EQ gets in high doses.
It works just fine in low to moderate doses.
IndividualMan
Member
except Sdrol of course
malomkarom
Member
Oh yeah, gimme superdrol!
Nah, only tried oral/sublingual only. 10-20mg and won't ever go above. I'm pretty lucky with how I respond to androgens. 20mg 3-4x a week and I ended up destroying my joints and had to take a week off of training after 3 weeks. I fucking love it though.
Second 3 week run was only 10mg sublingual (lighter by feel on my liver) and it went fine. It's crazy how strong that thing is. The first 3 weeks were basically like a high dose tren cycle with me straight up raping my PRs every session on 100-200 tren every time. Losing 5lbs eating in a 1000-1500kcal surplus and damn near tearing the shirts I wear for work, I couldn't reach out with my hands cause the shirts were audably crying. Only side was being a fucking monster in the gym making all kinds of sounds in my 5x5myorep post failure sets with 85% of my previous one rep max on the hack squat just a week in.
It was better sublingually though. Held it for 30 minutes every time. Godmode in an hour.
I get shivers thinking about it. I fucking love weights man...
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IndividualMan
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if you got raws on hand you can try gel. works topical, my forearms felt like my dick after putting 50mg DHT straight down the urethra. no real strength increase when using it 1x/week pwo for me, but the look i get in mere hours is undeniably great
malomkarom
Member
I don't have raws for anything. I'm still scared shitless. I'm trying to work something out to have them shipped domestic.
Could use some test U, test cyp and EQ raws for sure and why not get some extras if I'm already commiting a felony worth way over 10 years of prison. Might aswell mke it worth it.
I'd try so many things with AAS and peps. So many compounds I'm not willing to.... okay.. I just can't... pay the premium for someone brewing in shit I wouldn't inject anyways.
Would 100% try a superdrol cream, sounds fucking nice. Let's add some tren base to that, applied to weak bodyparts for a boost (left quad, right delts, right ass, triceps). I'd be down for just injectable sdrol though.
With the sharp difference I felt between oral and sublingual I can only imagine what it would do injected. Pretty sure I could be blasting on like 30mg a week.
as toxic as EQ at high doses? please explain
malomkarom
Member
Wrong phrasing for what I meant.
Mental sides, kidneys and hematocrit. Nothing more really. There are a bunch of people that feel toxic on it which I was thinking about that's where the phrasing came from.
IndividualMan
Member
the panda has some. he also had tren base, but other people have tren base rn. but MOQs are too high for tren base, enough to buy base and make your own ace and E for a lifetime.
The most goated topical gel has got to be a mixture of all the esterless compounds+orals, a bit of everything Sdrol, Adrol,Dbol TrenNE Stenbolone Base, TNE, BoldNE etc combo or something like that.
malomkarom
Member
Multiple vendors have some I'd choose over panda
I won't touch tren for a while, not worth the mental state. Maybe my old "i have a week for myself" strategy with some ace but nothing more.
The rest I'm good with lmao
dinfar1337
New Member
maybe we just have different drug metabolism heh
1g is just 1g. if its of testosterone or boldeone. something crazy would be 1g tren or ment but its just mild anabolic. really not that dangerous and i know many guys who have done it with good bloods, so the question is why is it stupid? you get more gains in a endless tiltrating game that is not lost yet.
malomkarom
Member
Oh for sure there are differences.
If you need a gram of any compound for it to be worth it I'd just buy something else. If your bloodwork is fine on a gram I'm not taking the syringe out of your hand, I just still don't see a reason to run it.
0 reason to have your kidneys filter a gram of shit that does nothing for you.
I think "1g is just 1g" is a terrible way to think though, it's 100% certainly healthier to go lower and dial in the other factor, but again I've always reacted exceptionaly well to most compounds I've tried and never had to go high to progress, my pov is skewed. I've also never been over 185-190lbs (15-16% bf) since starting gear and don't have much experience with how even I myself would react was I 15-20kgs heavier, I don't like sticking out much so I never push bulks far at all and prefer not getting mental and physical sides of even high-moderate doses.
It's just my opinnion though that I'm mostly basing on other peoples anecdotes and bloodwork.
I fell in love with superdrol of all things, I'm just another gearhead that does things he knows he shouldn't, don't think I'm judging much. As long as the person doing it is not killing themselves I'll sleep just fine at night. I'd just prefer yall doing less for the sake of less risk.
I did get worried when I saw @Sampei's new cycle though but I'm aware he's probably knowledgable enough to treat the sides and stop in time in case somethings wrong.
Edit: Anyways, enjoy your day/night guys, I'll spark up and go to bed. Was nice!
dinfar1337
New Member
yeah i defiently think theres a fine distinguishing between wanting to grow as much as possible and wanting to be healthy.
you should ofc push dosages as high as you can while still being healthy when you wanna grow, that is just logical. no need to discriminate against grams if thats what it takes, even if another guy got there at lower dosages.
im 100kg but when i first started blasting and was not 10% at 70-80kg ish or 180 ish i defiently ran my most deadly cycles there. but yeah i occasionally push grams and stay there for some time now, my goal is also to compete and i will see if i can recover for a recent injury to go do my first amateur show in 48 weeks time at this moment i will likely assess that 20-24 weeks out.
of course last guy i argued with about this thinks im the devil now but i respect your perspective and hope you can understand mine.
AlwaysHungry
Member
It really depends on how you respond and what you want to get out of it.
Just a question you talking about 1g of an individual compound ? Or 1g total AAS load.
Because in my mind I can’t see how 1g of EQ it’s worse than 500mg test and 500mg EQ.
Also 1g of every other compound (injectable) is healthier than superdrol
I mean, that's a big problem. The major reason we have so many other artificial androgens is because of that problem.
