Blood Pressure

How is your hematocrit, RBC and hemoglobin? 160 is way too high. Have you mentioned it to your Doc?
Pulse rate under 100 is ok but the bp is in the range that can start hurting you in other areas if not addressed. Try giving beet powder a shot until you can see the doc...dropped my BP about 10 points when I started it. Not a long term fix but might help.
 
How is your hematocrit, RBC and hemoglobin? 160 is way too high. Have you mentioned it to your Doc?
1. RBC (Red Blood Cell count)

Value: 4.98 ×10⁶/mm³

Reference range: 4.3 – 5.7 ×10⁶/mm³

Interpretation: Normal
This indicates a physiologic red blood cell mass appropriate for your age and sex. RBCs transport oxygen and CO₂; within range, they suggest good erythropoietic activity and no overt anemia or polycythemia.



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2. HGB (Hemoglobin concentration)

Value: 15.0 g/dL

Reference range: 13.2 – 17.3 g/dL

Interpretation: Normal
Hemoglobin is the functional iron-containing protein of erythrocytes. Your value is well within the normal male range, indicating sufficient oxygen-carrying capacity.



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3. HCT (Hematocrit)

Value: 45.5%

Reference range: 39 – 49%

Interpretation: Normal
Hematocrit reflects the volume fraction of RBCs in whole blood. A value of 45.5% is ideal and suggests euvolemic red cell mass, again consistent with normocytic, normochromic erythropoiesis.



Only time they went out of range was when I ran supposedly anadrol for a longer period and Mean corpuscular volume was out of range at 100.9 (range 80-99) and MCHC (Mean Corpuscular Hemoglobin Concentration) was 31.4 (32-37)
 
Pulse rate under 100 is ok but the bp is in the range that can start hurting you in other areas if not addressed. Try giving beet powder a shot until you can see the doc...dropped my BP about 10 points when I started it. Not a long term fix but might help.
I bought a manual machine and it comes back to 130-140, perhaps it was just the machine in my GP office. She used the right cuff on me and she tested it on herself too and got 120. It was a brand popular in Europe, veroval duo or something like that. On a more shitty machine without changing cuff I got 150 too... I don't know. My blood potassium level and sodium are perfect. I'm kind of at a loss on why the bp reading is so high. I walk every day 3-4 km with heavy backpack, I don't do hard cardio tho and I drink quite a lot of liquids, one guy told me I drink too much. 3 liters of milk and water I don't count but more then 2 liters probably
 
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I bought a manual machine and it comes back to 130-140, perhaps it was just the machine in my GP office. She used the right cuff on me and she tested it on herself too and got 120. It was a brand popular in Europe, veroval duo or something like that. On a more shitty machine without changing cuff I got 150 too... I don't know. My blood potassium level and sodium are perfect. I'm kind of at a loss on why the bp reading is so high. I walk every day 3-4 km with heavy backpack, I don't do hard cardio tho and I drink quite a lot of liquids, one guy told me I drink too much. 3 liters of milk and water I don't count but more then 2 liters probably
ny odea what your Hgb and Hct are?
 
Had to go to doctor to prescribe me ADHD meds, I took a clonidine 0.15 mg the night before and in the morning. My BP was 155/75. Quite disappointed
 
155/75 after taking the ADHD meds?
No, just got diagnosed, story is that clonidine didn't work. Read up on a study saying it reduces BP by 40-50 points... Not really. Also my pulse was 107 at the doctor office... Didn't exactly felt the beta blocking effect.
 
Had to go to doctor to prescribe me ADHD meds, I took a clonidine 0.15 mg the night before and in the morning. My BP was 155/75. Quite disappointed
It is necessary to wait at least 7 days of use before the full effect of the drug occurs. Give it some time.
 
Clonidine is not know to be a strong BP medication. You should start with ARB or ACE inhibitors and then go from there if you need add on therapy.
Yes.. I am using Telmi and Nebivolol. I was talking about the time it takes for the full effect of the drugs.
 
Clonidine is not know to be a strong BP medication. You should start with ARB or ACE inhibitors and then go from there if you need add on therapy.

There is increasing evidence ACE (and the "ACE cough") is associated with increased risk of lung cancer. Most cardiologists opt for ARB with patients starting BP meds now.
 
There is increasing evidence ACE (and the "ACE cough") is associated with increased risk of lung cancer. Most cardiologists opt for ARB with patients starting BP meds now.
I absolutely agree that IMO ARB's are the better choice due to the cough issues and they appear to be just as effective. However some have no cough issues and I think there are still a few cardiologists that go to them as their primary choice. Probably just because of old habits.
 
I absolutely agree that IMO ARB's are the better choice due to the cough issues and they appear to be just as effective. However some have no cough issues and I think there are still a few cardiologists that go to them as their primary choice. Probably just because of old habits.

I came across the perfect term for why doctors prescribe certain meds when objectively better alternatives are available:

"Clinician Inertia"

lol. I think it's always a good idea to have some medicine in mind for whatever condition you're being treated for, mention it, and let them explain why what they want to use is better. Sometimes there's a reason you didn't take into consideration, but 9/10 I find they just go with it, I think a patient who takes active involvement in their own care is also more likely to get better treatment too.
 
Your alleged IFBB Pro Card doesnt make you an expert on any of this yet you keep bringing it up like it gives you credibility.

I've worked out with multiple pros, some have stepped on the Olympia stage, and they just take what their coaches tell them to most of the time.

You offer nothing to this thread outside of claims you haven't backed up and 'google it'. Why are you even posting?
Ok did that make u feel better about yourself cool. You know it all.
 
The irony is bodybuilders from 10+ years ago as a whole never measured BP or cared about it much. They thought it was "weak" to take a BP med.

How did that work out for them?

The typical ARB/CBB/Heart selective beta blocker stack would have saved a whole lot of lives.

> "Oh but if they quit gear they would be fine"

Bullshit. Any big guy is gonna need a BP med regardless of gear. Most of America has high BP.

> "Oh but you're just a bunch of young roiders who don't wanna quit gear"

Most of us are 30+ and on TRT.
30 plus and on try that says it all. Training for 33 years did not start trt till I was 49 started my first cycle at 21. It's called go off and recover. Give your body a break. Of course your going to have high blood pressure problems never going off. Don't call it a cycle because ur never off.
 
Why testosterone increases BP? I looked into aldosterone and potassium sodium etc but I don't think it's this

Trying to understand what is the issue to know which type of bp drugs to chose. Thanks
 
30 plus and on try that says it all. Training for 33 years did not start trt till I was 49 started my first cycle at 21. It's called go off and recover. Give your body a break. Of course your going to have high blood pressure problems never going off. Don't call it a cycle because ur never off.
I'm over 40. I'm not a bodybuilder, I was speaking for the typical users of BP meds. Hence I said "most of us".

Not that it matters, most 30 years old in America have high blood pressure anyway, but now they can't take them because someone on a roid forum says they're bad?

At over 40 I'd take an ARB regardless because it's one of the most kidney protective drugs out there and by age 70 you lose aprox. half of your kidney function.
 
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