Bitcoin vs. Apple Pay

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Is Apple Pay the begining of the end for Bitcoin? Or does it merely represent the big banks and merchant credit card processors' last stand against Bitcoin.

Apple joining forces with Visa, Mastercard, American Express, JP Morgan Chase, Bank of America, Wells Fargo, Citibank, Barclays and Capital One certainly is a forbidable force.

But Bitcoin represents open-source vs. proprietary closed garden, new digital (crypto)currency vs. traditional fiat money, decentralization vs. centralization.

Even if the consumer demands a superior technology, Apple's ability to partner with Visa, MasterCard and American Express in addition to retailers like McDonalds, Whole Foods and Disney provides a formidable barrier to entry. Moreover, Apple can crowdsource the next "killer app" with its development ecosystem. But does this mean Bitcoin is dead?

No.

The Apple ecosystem is a closed system that does a tremendous job at retaining customers but leaves it vulnerable to the innovation of open source projects. This is a flaw that Google's Android has exploited brilliantly and profitably. In addition, Apple's plan to layer another fee on top of an already expensive payment network is an opportunity for digital currencies. Offering a product that is open source and virtually free is how Android became the top mobile operating system in the world. Digital currencies should borrow from Google's playbook in order to compete with Apple.

The open-source nature of digital currencies gives them a major competitive edge as the best technology can be immediately integrated without the need to navigate a corporate culture. This gives digital currencies a first mover advantage as consumers begin to embrace a digital payment network. Android was able to gain market share by offering apps that Apple had yet to approve and therefore opened itself to the early adoption of game changing tech.

Source: Is Apple Pay a bitcoin killer?
 
Bitcoin's appeal is anonymity. Apples and oranges IMHO
honestly BTC is has less anonymity than you think. It is pseudo-anonymous.

Basically what I mean is it is anonymous if you want it to be, but is not if you don't wash your coins. They can be tracked using the block chain. Less anonymous than cash.

DRK and XMR are truly and totally anonymous.

As for the decentralization, I totally agree, this is the major benefit. We have been duped into believing we need someone to control the value of our money and insure it, when in reality it just gives someone the ability to pull money out of your pocket without you knowing it through inflation.

In the end BTC will be used for large transactions and LTC will be used for daily smaller transactions. BTC is a tad more secure but so secure may be a bit over the top if you want to send 100 bucks. But if your sending 300k you will want BTC.

LTC is a lot faster and much more nimble.

PS I personally think Apple Pay or whatever sucks donkey dick. It is no more than a glorified google wallet. No one wants to store their card info online these days.

Thats whats great about BTC, pseudo-anonymity. You can send money to someone without giving them all your info. It may not be necessarily your doing something wrong, you just may not know the entity your doing business with very well so you would rather keep your financial information private.

Another great thing about BTC (or LTC) is that you either have it or you don't. There is no credit. Its like cash.

BTC marks the first time in history a piece of digital property can be transferred from 1 person to another.

"it is a push payment not a pull payment" ~ Charlie Lee
 
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Bitcoin was on a bit of a decline. There is word ebay will be accepting bit coin. This is a big deal and will me the major comeback for bitcoin.
 
The ebay bitcoin rumors have been around for months. Now if Alibaba lifts its ban on bitcoin, that would be big news.

Interestingly, a lot of people are blaming the huge 50-100 point drop in Bitcoin price this month on investors dumping the currency to free up money to invest in the Alibaba IPO - http://bitcoinmagazine.com/16481/bitcoin-price-dropped-today/

Of course, without an obvious culprit, speculation about the causes has run wild.
 
A new article was published today on Coindesk about why Apple Pay is a threat to Bitcoin. Apple wins in almost all areas except one - Apple's "inherently fascistic" marketing approach of locking users into the closed-garden Apple ecosystem is its biggest vulnerability to Bitcoin:

Apple’s partnership with the banks and payment processors still puts the incumbent system firmly in control. The only thing that really changes is the payment channel.

Apple Pay is therefore still anathema to bitcoin’s mission, which involves disrupting centralized control in the financial industry and returning real financial control to the user.

Second, Apple is beating bitcoin in terms of the customer experience. Its ecosystem is exceedingly user friendly and customer focused.

The company has spent years perfecting a design and user experience language that is second to none in the tech business, and, whenever it turns its attention to an existing business model, it brings these tools to bear, recrafting entire industries in its own image.

People understand Apple phones, and thanks to Jony Ive’s team, they will quickly understand the Apple Watch. Moreover, they will crave these devices.

Bitcoin, on the other hand, is still striving for mainstream adoption. Notwithstanding positive news from the likes of PayPal, Circle, and Stripe, the concept is still opaque to many. The market for wallets is fragmented, and scandals like Mt Gox still scare many away.

By its very nature, bitcoin is a grassroots movement. It doesn’t enjoy the same top-down organisation that Apple does. That means that design, user experience, and security are inconsistent across its many implementations. That makes it hard for mainstream users to understand.

A craving for control

Apple’s ability to control every detail of the user experience is also the source of one of its biggest threats: it is an inherently fascistic company. A penchant for total control is a dangerous thing in a company that likes to reinvent entire industries.

Ever since the early 2000s, if not before, Apple has thrived on locking people into its ecosystem, and it excels at cementing this structure up and down the supply chain. We saw this with the launch of the iTunes store, which Apple integrated with the iPod and iTunes products upon its launch in 2003, signing deals with the major labels.

Jobs admitted this fact not long before his death, explaining in an internal 2010 email that he wanted to “explicitly lock customers in Apple’s ecosystem”.

Source: http://www.coindesk.com/apple-pay-threat-bitcoin/
 
What is CurrentC? It may be an "Apple Pay"-killer. Retailers supporting CurrentC may block ApplePay.

CurrentC retailers include Walmart, Target, 7-Eleven, Alon Brands, Banana Republic, Bed Bathy & Beyond, Best Buy, CVS Pharmacy; Darden Restaurants, Dunkin' Donuts, Gap, HMSHost, Hy-Vee, Kmart, Kohl's, Lowe’s Home Improvement, Old Navy, Publix Super Markets, Rite-Aid, Sam's Club, Sears, Shell Oil, Sunoco, Wendy's etc.

There's a lot of hype around Apple Pay right now, but not everyone is on board with the new mobile payments system. In fact, a significant number of merchants, including heavyweights like Walmart, Kmart, 7-Eleven, and Best Buy, are in outright competition with Apple Pay. The retailers, through a joint venture formed in 2012, are building their own mobile payment app, called CurrentC. It's expected to launch next year. In the meantime, these retailers have no intention to support Apple Pay.

Source: http://www.theverge.com/2014/10/25/7069863/retailers-are-disabling-nfc-readers-to-shut-out-apple-pay
 
Great post Millard. This is why I like this site. Using brain and brawn like the greeks used too!

Bitcoin is a game changer. With apple getting involved on the other side is pretty clear step for the big banks/gov't.

We are in an every changing world that is getting more and more controlled.
 
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