Bioglutide

[Raiders789]

Hey guys -

I was skimming though Vigorous Steve's new livestream and heard him say that he knows some underground vendors with Bioglutide in stock and he says its gonna be hitting the market soon. From what I've heard it sounds like the dream weight loss drug - GLP, GIP, Glucagon and IGF1 agonism, and its oral? Sounds too good to be true. The phase 2 results released from Biomed industries look really promising with up to 14% reduction in body weight in 13 week with no muscle loss and low rate of adverse sides. There are tons of people on this forum that are a lot smarter than me, so I was hoping to hear some of your guys opinions on whether this would be worth the buy to experiment with.

Thanks!

 

[Almoister]

Steve is pushing every single thing imaginable under the sun as the next best thing ever … take everything with grams of salt

 

[wells14]

And he'll almost certainly have a discount code for it soon. He exaggerates the effects of everything he takes. Especially shit that's hard to come by.

 

[sliderke]

He pushes everything he sells.
It’s generally known that sema and tirz are the best appetite suppressors.
But he and chase keep pushing retatrutide because they sell it.

Bioglutide is too early
In its stage to sell already.

I have been using tirz since January and lost 27 kg of fat. Arms and shoulders are bigger than in January.

So if you train you don’t lose muscle on tirz like they want to keep pushing into the world.

 

[wells14]

So if you train you don’t lose muscle on tirz like they want to keep pushing into the world.

Were you on anything else? Hard to believe you'd add any significant mass to your arms & shoulders after a 9 month deficit unless you were untrained before.

 

[Ghoul]

Were you on anything else? Hard to believe you'd add any significant mass to your arms & shoulders after a 9 month deficit unless you were untrained before.

Use rHGH and Test with any GLP and you'll preserve, even gain lean mass in a deficit, assuming you get enough protein in.

 

[sliderke]

Were you on anything else? Hard to believe you'd add any significant mass to your arms & shoulders after a 9 month deficit unless you were untrained before.

Yes I was on test and eq. But only for the last 4 months. First 5 trt 150mg.
So yes you have a point.
But I still believe that if you train natural heavy you will not loose muscle on tirz.
If you’re a coach potato with no exercise yes.

Just my idea.

 

[wells14]

But I still believe that if you train natural heavy you will not loose muscle on tirz.

I wouldn't say someone's natural if they're on tirz but I doubt you'd retain all your muscle after 9 months of calorie restriction. Especially using GLPs. Just look at natural bodybuilders when they compete.

 

[pewex]

Were you on anything else? Hard to believe you'd add any significant mass to your arms & shoulders after a 9 month deficit unless you were untrained before.

I believe it is possible to gain a solid amount of muscle while in a deficit. I have done it myself (during prep), but the diet needs to be 100% and well structured. As you go deeper into a deficit, the drugs also need to be adjusted accordingly.

 

[Almoister]

U can even naturally in quit a large deficit 1000+ Lol if all condtitions are met but just for like 30-60 days or so couse of hormones its not like ur body begs to lose Muscle Lol

 

[wldb33rz]

So if you train you don’t lose muscle on tirz like they want to keep pushing into the world.

None of these drugs will make you lose muscle mass. The issue is that a lot of people arent getting direction from their doctors on diet/lifestyle changes so if you just take the meds and then suddenly find you're only eating 800 calories a day (more common than you may think) yes, you'll lose muscle.

Get to a more realistic calorie goal and do any sort of resistance training and you'll not only keep muscle, but you can do some minimal gains/recomp in the process.

There's nothing inherently catabolic about the GLP-1's, it's just a lifestyle and nutrition adjustment that's required to lose the weight *and* not lose muscle. Remember to get a prescription for these drugs you need to be diabetic or obese. They're not really supposed to be used to just drop an aesthetic 10-15lbs.

Something I forgot to add: The big push from pharma is to make it so that you can just take it and lose the weight with no changes. Doing so will make the drugs easier to have adherence to and harder to mess yourself up by taking them. This is the primary concern; if you're already bodybuilding and taking them to do a cut, you're less than likely to have muscle loss on them because your diet is already on point and you're actively in the gym already working on building that muscle mass. Not just lazing around wasting away while not being hungry.

 

[wp_375]

Hey guys -

I was skimming though Vigorous Steve's new livestream and heard him say that he knows some underground vendors with Bioglutide in stock and he says its gonna be hitting the market soon. From what I've heard it sounds like the dream weight loss drug - GLP, GIP, Glucagon and IGF1 agonism, and its oral? Sounds too good to be true. The phase 2 results released from Biomed industries look really promising with up to 14% reduction in body weight in 13 week with no muscle loss and low rate of adverse sides. There are tons of people on this forum that are a lot smarter than me, so I was hoping to hear some of your guys opinions on whether this would be worth the buy to experiment with.

Thanks!

I'd be surprised if there were UGL's with it considering they haven't released the composition of it publicly yet. Unless they got it through industrial espionage or something. Supposed to still be 4-6 years out from approval I think

 

[Liter O' Test]

glps are muscle sparing, they make you more insulin sensitive and tilt your metabolism towards fat burning vs carb let alone protein
i do not want a glp interacting with my igf

 

[wldb33rz]

I'd be surprised if there were UGL's with it considering they haven't released the composition of it publicly yet. Unless they got it through industrial espionage or something. Supposed to still be 4-6 years out from approval I think

The CAS is already released and it's currently in 2B trials and recruiting for phase 3 trials, which is the same stage Retatrutide is already at when it started becoming available. Not that hard to believe it's closer to being available. One of the sponsors here say their labs are working on it and it will be available "soon" but no clue what that means in terms of a real timeline.

 

[Almoister]

Also dont want to see oral glp price at all Lol retail is gonna be something else for that

 

[frenexen]

The CAS is already released and it's currently in 2B trials and recruiting for phase 3 trials, which is the same stage Retatrutide is already at when it started becoming available. Not that hard to believe it's closer to being available. One of the sponsors here say their labs are working on it and it will be available "soon" but no clue what that means in terms of a real timeline.

I don't see a chemical structure or a CAS, where did you find this?

As far as I know it's not public. Anyone saying they have it or are producing it is lying.

 

[Vanargandar]

It’s generally known that sema and tirz are the best appetite suppressors.

I have to disagree with this as my N=1, along with others. Sema was unbearable for me in terms of side effects, and Tirz was marginally better (both pharma, Wegovy and Mounjaro respectively). Reta at a once weekly dosage of 0.5mg has me losing ~0.8lbs per week consistently without adjusting dosage in 2.5months. I have zero side effects except a (sometimes) 1bpm RHR differential. I wouldn't describe what Reta does as appetite suppression, rather, appetite control. I can eat my goal kcals, protein, etc, without feeling like shit, my bowel movements are normal, no acid reflux, no nausea, and all the other usual issues with older GLP-1s. I know Sema/Tirz have their target audience, but dismissing Reta as a gimmick isn't entirely accurate.

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[BigDadd7]

I have to disagree with this as my N=1, along with others. Sema was unbearable for me in terms of side effects, and Tirz was marginally better (both pharma, Wegovy and Mounjaro respectively). Reta at a once weekly dosage of 0.5mg has me losing ~0.8lbs per week consistently without adjusting dosage in 2.5months. I have zero side effects except a (sometimes) 1bpm RHR differential. I wouldn't describe what Reta does as appetite suppression, rather, appetite control. I can eat my goal kcals, protein, etc, without feeling like shit, my bowel movements are normal, no acid reflux, no nausea, and all the other usual issues with older GLP-1s. I know Sema/Tirz have their target audience, but dismissing Reta as a gimmick isn't entirely accurate.

USE MY CODE: ANALSEX @ ALPHACHADAMINOPEPTIDE.US FOR 0% OFF YOUR NEXT ORDER

You're right that n=1 in your particular case. However, the vast majority n= near infinity, find tirz to be king.

I'll definitely use your code on my next order.

 

[Raiders789]

Also dont want to see oral glp price at all Lol retail is gonna be something else for that

Fr bro, I'm not gonna be taking out a second mortgage for a slightly better fat loss drug. I think I'll be sticking with reta at least for a bit; however I'm interested to see how this and the other oral GLP that ssa is making does.

 

[Raiders789]

I have to disagree with this as my N=1, along with others. Sema was unbearable for me in terms of side effects, and Tirz was marginally better (both pharma, Wegovy and Mounjaro respectively). Reta at a once weekly dosage of 0.5mg has me losing ~0.8lbs per week consistently without adjusting dosage in 2.5months. I have zero side effects except a (sometimes) 1bpm RHR differential. I wouldn't describe what Reta does as appetite suppression, rather, appetite control. I can eat my goal kcals, protein, etc, without feeling like shit, my bowel movements are normal, no acid reflux, no nausea, and all the other usual issues with older GLP-1s. I know Sema/Tirz have their target audience, but dismissing Reta as a gimmick isn't entirely accurate.

USE MY CODE: ANALSEX @ ALPHACHADAMINOPEPTIDE.US FOR 0% OFF YOUR NEXT ORDER

Yea bro I've had a similar experience -

The first glp I used was sema and I got the worst nausea/bloating at a low dose. Currently on 12mg reta on my bulk and can easily be hungry enough to get 4000 kcals in but have no desire to cheat on my diet or eat junk food. In about a month I'm going to transition to a cut and I plan on stacking 12mg reta with tirz, which hopefully will add more appetite suppression without bad GI sides.

Another thing I've noticed on reta is that I can eat a lot more and not gain fat. There is 100% a noticeable boost in daily expenditure form the glucagon effect from reta; I've never been able to eat this much on a bulk and not gain a crazy amount of fat. Will see how it holds up as I keep pushing up the calories but I'd recommend reta over the other glps.