I used to do thumbless on lite sets and regular grip on max effort, eventually I used the thumbless grip so much that I stuck with it.
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Like a g for that bar... worth all that $? I looked at them... and then kept looking lol
Yeah it's worth it. I got it for $849 military discount and they sent me those 11 pound competition collars for free.
People do thumbless bc it's easy on the wrists. The reason it's easy on the wrists even if the wrists are bent is bc the bar sits right above the wrist and not further out on the hand so there's no torque on the wrist only straight forces acting down.
You can get the same thing with a normal grip if you know how to grip the bar right. Plus it's much much safer.
You can get the same thing with a normal grip if you know how to grip the bar right. Plus it's much much safer.
Johnny442
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I always used a suicide grip until I saw a video of a guy getting smashed when the bar rolled out of his hand! I grip that sumbitch tight as hell now.
Maj1979
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This is a good point. Most of my max outs are with smith or machines and that's been due to my travels (always the new guy in the gym so I don't talk to anyone, be gone in a week or month so what's the point) and with these equipment I do a lot of false grips. Every movement of grip and hand placement gives me something new. Free weights...yeah you better be using them thumbs lol
Any wrist issues can be alleviated by copious masturbation. Never had a wrist issue in my life, and I jerk off while one girl leaves and I am waiting for the next one. #savethewrists
You probably have enough hair on your hands that you could do a suicide grip and wrap the bar with the hair and still be safe?
Absolutely correct. And I use the leftover hair to make a wrists wrap out of!
Mind you im not talking about max attempts but pressing thumbless makes it easier for me to get in to the mentality of pressing like a bear. If you look at the anatomy of a bear and see their arms act more like levers its an interesting advantage and oddly enough its also one i find that gets superior contractions during my chest work. Mostly on the hammer machines or smith machine.
If you take this version of a press, The Twist Press, you can see in an exaggerated form what im trying to describe. It creates a very interesting dynamic on chest day.
Or this
Dumbbell hex press. Hand/wrist placement can entirely change your chest work
This is too funny.
As for suicide grip. I used on warmups today. I had a rough day today so I just cut my losses and wrapped it up. But I worked up to 275 on bench suicide as I got ready to rack it, that bar rolled out of my hands and on to the rack thank god. No suicide grip ever for me.
I've never had that happen... Idk I've pushed some heavy weight suicide, and I don't have big hands or anything... Maybe because I always chalk? Fingers crossed I didn't jinx myself lol
I believe in my case it's just a matter of getting acclimated to using the false grip.
As I get older I'm willing to try things that will place less strain on my body.
Not sure if I'd be willing to practice this one though.
Prozach45
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To me it depends on the exercise. On bench press, I always go close grip, unless it's super low weight and I'm going for reps. But, on lat pull downs, for instance, I almost always go suicide. Suicide grip helps build forearms with certain exercises, but on bench, close grip is safer.
How does suicide grip help build forearms? Normal grip or fat grip builds forearms not suicide it actually takes a lot of stress out from them also I am not sure what you mean by close grip since it usually indicates the distance between your hands on the barbell. I believe you mean thumbs around
Marcus
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I started using a suicide grip after a shoulder injury. Wrapping my thumb had my elbows bow at an angle that put unneeded stress on my shoulder. Basically I needed to re-work my technique, but instead I just changed grip.
After a few months, I had almost dropped the bar a couple times and decided that was the end of that. Then like brutus, was told about the idea of "bending the bar..." like wrap your thumbs as you lay down and before you push off, feel like your breaking the bar in half so you pull elbows in. Haven't had too many problems since
After a few months, I had almost dropped the bar a couple times and decided that was the end of that. Then like brutus, was told about the idea of "bending the bar..." like wrap your thumbs as you lay down and before you push off, feel like your breaking the bar in half so you pull elbows in. Haven't had too many problems since
johntt44
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I've used suicide/false grip for years without incident. I've never even felt like I was going to drop the bar on myself. I still grip it hard with my 4 fingers though.
I use false and haven't had anything even close to an issue yet. I have had my wrist wobble a few times before I started using wraps. I can see how a false grip with wrist wobble could end up badly. Luckily I'm not strong yet so if the bar fell on me I'd be ok, lol 
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