Mig 840 caused inflammation in some people I know. After changing to MCT, the problem completely disappeared. All similar to your case.
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Spaceman Spiff
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DugPrime
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What kind of MCT do you use? Miglyol 812? I’ve been looking for hours for MCT oil in Europe (the pharmaceutical grade for injection), but can’t find any.
I use MCT from coconut, which has only C8 and C10 acids. Not any pharmaceutical, just normal, natural one. Zero PIP, in the case of standard products.
Just bought c8 pure mct from coconut too. Perviously my health store just had c8 and c10. This one is also pipless
Dirthand
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I agree that everyone can respond differently. A little rabbit hole a compounding pharma recipe floating around for test base 100 calls for 40% bb and 10% ba.. tweak it little using miglyol 840 to 8%ba 35% bb 4% guaiacol.. it has been the smoothest batch i have tried so far.. next step is to try and take it to the 10 and 40 without the g. I did try some test e the other day and for a knot the size of a ping pong ball for 3 days... but I have a couple friends that is all they want and all they have used for years... cool thread as I think Mr. Narta and spaceman have really been the pioneers here in the homwbrew section on the bb content.. I know know if I am in doubt about something holding or not... its like fuck it why not add a couple extra bb %.
Denicnut2427
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I use 1%ba 18%bb for up to 300mg test cyp works just fine I’ve always used the least amount of solvents possible…is the thought of higher bb to thin the oil? Wouldn’t need to thin mct much more so I’m wondering what the thought process is…I had a kid on another brew log talk shit when I told him you didn’t need 26%bb for a test cyp and definitely not test enth! Thank you bro I’m just curious what the thought is for having bb creep up so high!
300mg test C 18% BB ahahahha nice joke. I bet you test your raw
300mg can't even hold at 25% most of the time at low temperature
At 18% doesn't hold even at normal temperature.
Dirthand
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That "kid" Is definitely a 43 year old man, that knows cyp definitely won't hold for shit in 18%bb..
Anyone that brewed cyp knows that.
That why this guy is a clown lol
He probably doesn't even have cyp
29trt
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Where did you get your test cyp raws from?
Perhaps its a case similar to EQ raws where the lower purity ones held better but it would be the first time I hear this for test cyp...
That being said the test cyp raws from QSC that I got a couple of years ago do seem to hold better than the common wisdom would suggest.
just checked my notes and I overdosed the raw to 275mg/ml (because I don't know the exact purity so went over board a little). With 1.5%BA and 18%BB in Now brand MCT oil. All heated to 80*C for about an hour on a magnetic stirrer.
Never crashed even at 14*C but it does give me a little PIP when doing over 0.5ml at once.
Dirthand
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Really if you let it cool down to.much while filtering it it might crash before you get it filtered at 18%.. ive had that happen before., not with cyp but TNE.. I mean this would be the thread that if anyone has and credible documents to prove that higher amount of BB is harmful or negative in anyway share it... I've looked and can't find any.
When in doubt... add extra BB
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29trt
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The most often recipe you will find online for test Cyp is 2%ba woth 18%bb at 250mg/ml so I don't know what you are on about? Or are you talking about specifically the 300mg/ml?
29trt
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What the hell does TNE have to do with Cyp?
Apples and oranges....
Cyp past 250mg has an exponential need of BB to hold. It's not a mistery of why pharma makes 200mg cyp and 250mg enan instead
I had 300mg crash with 25%BB
After two weeks.
Dirthand
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Thats definantly the discussion 300mg/ml cyp
Please forgive me kind sir as I might have got off topic...
Look id you fuckers say yall can make test cyp at 300mg/ml with 18% bb.. who am I to call you guys liars.. Great job...I personally can not....
No need to start getting disrespectful and smart.... maybe start you a brew log and educate us on how to brew.. i am all about learning.
Peace
I'll pay for the GCMS and HPLC of anyone that send a vial of 300mg/ml cyp to Jano and prove it's holding with 18/20% BB, it doesn't crash and it's correctly dosed at 300mg.
And I'll add 200$ on top of it.
500$ out of my pocket if one can prove it.
We can use an escrow no problem
29trt
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Yeah maybe I got some shit raws from qsc and they were 90% or something ,I can't explain it otherwise .
just my experience ,definitely not the norm and I'm not going to advise anyone that test Cyp holds fine at 275mg with 18% bb.
Pharma recipe for test cyp is 20bb 0.9% BA for 200mg.
Ppl do make 250mg with 20BB and it does crash quite frequently on average but doable and maybe it can hold if it never goes below a set temperature.
300mg? Pffffff I call bullshit
Spaceman Spiff
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Ultimately we are the Brewers that have lab tests to reflect our accuracy of ingredients. Raw products, etc
We also live in different parts of the world and don't use the same supplier for oil/MCT /BB/BA
