Banning immigrants from "certain" countries

[MassTurk]

That's just fuckin stupid. Who is who to judge and decide? People are good as a whole, I don't agree with anyone telling someone they can't pursue they're dream. " what gives you the right? To keep ........

@tenpoundsleft has a superiority complex. He thinks his gens and his intellect can't be matched by an average folk like yourself and I so don't waste your time. Arguement requires 2 opposing points. You can't argue with anyone who chooses to suppress yours instead of defending his
Also anyone who thinks they already know everything already, can't be thought a new idea or truth
My2cents

 

[PIZZABOY]

What's that saying? Plant your feet and standing tall is easy, the hard part is deciding where to stand?

 

[Docd187123]

What's that saying? Plant your feet and standing tall is easy, the hard part is deciding where to stand?

I like that saying.

 

[Roco Bama]

Did you guys ever ask yourselves "who created alqaida, who created isis, who put Iraq in chaos, who put Libya in chaos, who put Syria in choas ?
The US and her allies (Israel, Saudi Arabia) were arming terrorist groups against the secular governments in Libya and Syria from the beginning, leading to creating isis and refugee crisis in Europe. Maybe USA should stop funding chaos in the Middle East and Africa and the world would be a better place.
I can tell you that US spendings on Middle East wars has reached $6 trillion which is much more expensive than the amount of oil we've stole over the years.
So instead of complaining about poor immigrants who have lost their future, start protesting against US's inhumane policy in the Middle East and Africa.

 

[tenpoundsleft]

All of his posts are ridiculous.

Not compatible? I see millions of Muslims living peacefully in this country alone who are compatible.

We don't have millions here, not yet anyway.

The problem is that 15% to 25% of them are aggressively anti-western civilization. Only about 75% are "peaceful" practitioners. This is the real problem, and why they're incompatible with life in western societies, and why they always create their own cultural enclaves, and start to enforce Sharia. Etc etc.

 

[tenpoundsleft]

Did you guys ever ask yourselves "who created alqaida, who created isis, who put Iraq in chaos, who put Libya in chaos, who put Syria in choas ?
The US and her allies (Israel, Saudi Arabia) were arming terrorist groups against the secular governments in Libya and Syria from the beginning, leading to creating isis and refugee crisis in Europe. Maybe USA should stop funding chaos in the Middle East and Africa and the world would be a better place.
I can tell you that US spendings on Middle East wars has reached $6 trillion which is much more expensive than the amount of oil we've stole over the years.
So instead of complaining about poor immigrants who have lost their future, start protesting against US's inhumane policy in the Middle East and Africa.

Wow.....

The antisemitic comment rant earlier suddenly seems rational and well-argued.

 

[Docd187123]

We don't have millions here, not yet anyway.

Check you figures. 3.3million Muslims in the USA

A new estimate of the U.S. Muslim population

[/quote]The problem is that 15% to 25% of them are aggressively anti-western civilization. Only about 75% are "peaceful" practitioners. This is the real problem, and why they're incompatible with life in western societies, and why they always create their own cultural enclaves, and start to enforce Sharia. Etc etc.[/QUOTE]

So bc 15-25% are aggressively anti-western and 75% are peaceful (your numbers not mine but we'll use them for the time being), you condem an entire religion of 1billion + followers as incompatible with western society? Of the 3.3million Muslims living in the US, how many are incompatible? Seems like the select handful that are committing terrorist acts. A handful lol. I guess a handful of bad ones means the other 3.299 million here don't "fit the mold" to live life here.

What about right wing extremists who according to most Leo agencies are more dangerous than Muslims? Does that mean the less radical right won't guys aren't compatible either?

What about the Catholic Church trying to invoke it's own "laws"? You know, when they tried hampering investigations into pedophilia by bribing people, withholding evidence, moving priests around so they couldn't be found, etc? Does that mean the hundreds of millions of Catholics around the world aren't compatible with western civilization too?

 

[MassTurk]

We don't have millions here, not yet anyway.

The problem is that 15% to 25% of them are aggressively anti-western civilization. Only about 75% are "peaceful" practitioners. This is the real problem, and why they're incompatible with life in western societies, and why they always create their own cultural enclaves, and start to enforce Sharia. Etc etc.

Hey Ivy League where do you pull these numbers out of? Any proof or article to back up your baseless claims?

by the way the reason Turkey still owns the capitol of bizanten(roman) empire Istanbul is the crusaders wer defeated over and over by the Ottomans

There are over 1,000,000,000 muslims living peacefully and purposefully( check out the science and Medical journals you will see a few " westernized" muslims contributing to world piece)

Your hate and superiority complex comes from the way you were raised. No one is born a hater. Once you deal with what made you a bigot you can live a more purposeful life
Take care

 

[XKawN]

Did you guys ever ask yourselves "who created alqaida, who created isis, who put Iraq in chaos, who put Libya in chaos, who put Syria in choas ?
The US and her allies (Israel, Saudi Arabia) were arming terrorist groups against the secular governments in Libya and Syria from the beginning, leading to creating isis and refugee crisis in Europe. Maybe USA should stop funding chaos in the Middle East and Africa and the world would be a better place.
I can tell you that US spendings on Middle East wars has reached $6 trillion which is much more expensive than the amount of oil we've stole over the years.
So instead of complaining about poor immigrants who have lost their future, start protesting against US's inhumane policy in the Middle East and Africa.

How many Americans actually flew overseas and participated in the war? Then ask yourselves how many Americans there are and when you see it was a small percentage of Americans that did that then you will realize it wasn't Americans that did that. Well, that's the exact way we're expected to view Muslims even though they are marching from village to village taking over countries and beheading anyone who doesn't think like they do preaching anti American rhetoric. Just because it's a percentage of them doing the fighting that doesn't mean that's the only ones that feel the same way they do. There are problems with this on so many levels. No one should stand by and watch men, women and children being slaughtered. Folks are saying stay out of their business yet one the same hand say we should he obligated to take them in our country and be responsible for them. I would much rather spend resources to better their lives by helping them get a hand of their own country rather than bring them here and risk bringing in those that mean to do us harm. We are not obligated to bring "anyone" here. It is a privilege to come here not a right.

 

[outkicked1]

Maybe someone already said this, I didn't read all 26 pages, I really like this thought.

I don't lock my doors at night because I hate the people outside, I lock them because I love the people inside.

I don't hate Muslims. I see large groups of people from the middle east chanting death to America. I believe some of them mean it.

Yes there are extremists here (kkk etc.) That isn't a good reason to import more. I welcome foreigners to join our nation and become our brothers.

Putting a TEMPORARY travel restriction to assure only the people who need help are entering is smart.

Most people wouldn't drive to a bad neighborhood, pick up random homeless strangers, bring the homeless strangers to their house and bunk them up with their baby daughters.

 

[outkicked1]

Just saying awww I'm sure the vetting process is good enough, doesn't make it so.

I think every president, upon taking office, should be allowed to place a TEMPORARY travel restriction to pour over laws and procedures to make sure safety and security is on point.

Not just, meh I'm sure the last guy did it right.

 

[Docd187123]

Just saying awww I'm sure the vetting process is good enough, doesn't make it so.

I think every president, upon taking office, should be allowed to place a TEMPORARY travel restriction to pour over laws and procedures to make sure safety and security is on point.

Not just, meh I'm sure the last guy did it right.

The federal courts have never said the president cannot place travel restrictions on immigrants to the country. What they have said though is that the president cannot discriminate against a religion with his travel restrictions.

 

[MANWHORE]

The United States President should be able to do whatever the fuck he wants..
Fuck!!! The United States does what we want we own this planet.
If anyone doesn't like it then you answer to the USMC

 

[MANWHORE]

We need to start getting these other countries in order starting with those French Canadians
@CdnGuy

 

[MassTurk]

Most people wouldn't drive to a bad neighborhood, pick up random homeless strangers, bring the homeless strangers to their house and bunk them up with their baby daughters.

So My parents who are affected by this ban, are not strangers I pick up in the middle of the night. Most who comes to this country have relatives like me. Your analogy is fouled like the presidents. If you want to stop recruiting of new isis fighters, make sure our president doesn't order raids in their country killing 100's of civilians

 

[CdnGuy]

Brolloks is that you !?!? Lol

 

[outkicked1]

The federal courts have never said the president cannot place travel restrictions on immigrants to the country. What they have said though is that the president cannot discriminate against a religion with his travel restrictions.

The restriction affects less than ten percent of the Muslim population. It isn't a restriction on Muslims or it would include around a billion people that aren't restricted.

The federal courts that blocked the restriction are heavily liberal. They made a decision based on politics, instead of interpretation of law. Overreach.

 

[outkicked1]

So My parents who are affected by this ban, are not strangers I pick up in the middle of the night. Most who comes to this country have relatives like me. Your analogy is fouled like the presidents. If you want to stop recruiting of new isis fighters, make sure our president doesn't order raids in their country killing 100's of civilians

They aren't strangers to you. They are strangers when leaving their country of origin and coming here. I watch suicide bombers driving vehicles into crowds all the time.

So on one hand you are saying our president is causing people to join Isis by conducting bomb raids, but at the same time you're saying the people coming here aren't strangers.

You are saying our country creates terrorists by bomb raids, then you say strangers aren't coming in.


Look, you stand in a kiddie pool, I'll dump a hundred snakes in there for you to play with. Don't worry only one of the snakes is deadly, should be fine.

 

[outkicked1]

So My parents who are affected by this ban, are not strangers I pick up in the middle of the night. Most who comes to this country have relatives like me. Your analogy is fouled like the presidents. If you want to stop recruiting of new isis fighters, make sure our president doesn't order raids in their country killing 100's of civilians

Also you say most who come have relatives who are here.
I'd like to know where you get that statistic from. I'm not saying that's wrong, I just want to know where you get that from.

How many attacks have I seen where the attackers family says they had no idea the attacker was going to go ona a shooting spree, or drive through a crowd, or plant a bomb at a marathon. Over and over.

 

[Docd187123]

The restriction affects less than ten percent of the Muslim population. It isn't a restriction on Muslims or it would include around a billion people that aren't restricted.

The federal courts that blocked the restriction are heavily liberal. They made a decision based on politics, instead of interpretation of law. Overreach.

Regardless of the politics of the judges, trump himself has stated MANY NUMEROUS times he wants to ban Muslims from the country and former mayor of NYC Rudi Guliani has said trump came to him and asked how to make a Muslim ban legal. You see, it doesn't matter the politics you assume of the court bc you have the man himself on record saying exactly that. No only that, but it was more than just one judge and one jurisdiction.

Furthermore, you don't have to ban all 1billion + Muslims for it to be a ban on Muslims. That's like saying the racist guy who has a black or Jewish or Muslim or etc friend isn't racist.