Axle Labs - US Domestic

Especially given we still have plenty of reputable domestic vendors selling stuff who don’t have this checkered past. Yes stock has declined immensely but they’re still there.

Axle has said he wants to go back to TG only which we all know means he wants to be able to sell without the scrutiny and accountability that comes with meso.

Also we don’t even know who or what axle is at this point. The person in TG does not sound like the axle that used to be there and has said more in the past couple days than axle said in the past few years before.

My guess is we are seeing a similar scenario to Devon pct playing out, business is changing hands.
Yeah, sounds like a brewer who only knew how to make gear but was not smart enough to make a website and set up processing at scale, outsourced the web building to an indian guy, they had some internal drama, the indian guy felt he wasn't being paid what he was owed, he felt his izzat was threatened and decided simultaneously to change all the passwords, run an exit scam, try to sell the brand, and also find a new brewer/shipper.

Admins should nuke this thread, the brand should be radioactive, and the brewer should focus on quality control and stick to private sales.

Let this be a lesson to everyone how fast shit can go sideways. It's a shame that some of the best sources aren't accepting new customers right now, but I understand why.
 
The people who value his service and have done good business with him already know how to reach him and are getting their gear. The rest (including me) might not get anything.

At any rate until he sends bunk gear to everyone or people get nasty infections I would not consider this an exit scam.

Well for what it's worth, which may be nothing, I can tell you what happened with me. My regular source was out of stock for a while and I got to the point where I could not wait any longer. So I hunted around for a source here and found one who had a web site, payment instructions and Janoshick testing.

Sadly the first source I found that met this criteria was Axel, his prices were reasonable so I placed the order on Nov 29th and sent about $300 in bitcoin. First the order on the website said "cancelled" and I sent an email with proof of payment and the order changed to "pending." Two emails later no reply, I found this thread and figured I was well and truly screwed. Then the Axel website went away. Found another source, placed a new order.

Then the 808 account appeared and posted an email. I emailed, not expecting anything, got a quick reply asking I DM him here and send my order info. I did and he replied with a tracking number.

So I don't pretend to know what's going on and it all makes me very nervous about the product, but I'm sure not a long time customer and I got a tracking number. I'll let y'all know when the package arrives.
 
So online guy basically did everything but brewing and some other stuff.

So that explains the complete energy change in 808 replies. You can tell it’s a different person. Or it’s a good attempt at acting like someone else with typos and grammar.

Regardless, the whole situation is sketch. What is this round 3? Round 4?
Of rebrand and sketchy changes?

Excuse my lack of proper order
But split from MC, then was juice ape?, axle & 808, and now 808 with axle being taken by “the online guy” some shit like that.
Maybe missing something or adding something in there. But uh even that’s bad lol.

Pure sketch ^
that’s unfortunate.
But seems to be the track record here.
 
Yeah, sounds like a brewer who only knew how to make gear but was not smart enough to make a website and set up processing at scale, outsourced the web building to an indian guy, they had some internal drama, the indian guy felt he wasn't being paid what he was owed, he felt his izzat was threatened and decided simultaneously to change all the passwords, run an exit scam, try to sell the brand, and also find a new brewer/shipper.

Admins should nuke this thread, the brand should be radioactive, and the brewer should focus on quality control and stick to private sales.

Let this be a lesson to everyone how fast shit can go sideways. It's a shame that some of the best sources aren't accepting new customers right now, but I understand why.
Well this isn’t the only brewer with quality control issues. In fact the most accurately dosed product the the other source sold they didn’t even brew. The sources are only going to be held to the standard we allow. The admins aren’t going to do it. The best sources are taking customers btw. The one with Chinese primo they claimed as their own isn’t the best.
 
He's probably going private. All good sources eventually do. And what's happening right now (just an educated guess) he's shipping to people he feels he can trust. As I said Opsec related.

That's a good way to not get busted and at this point he probably doesn't need new customers nor will he lose any that he has if a bunch of randoms don't get what they wanted.
The people who value his service and have done good business with him already know how to reach him and are getting their gear. The rest (including me) might not get anything.

At any rate until he sends bunk gear to everyone or people get nasty infections I would not consider this an exit scam.
Axle is far from a good source
 
Even if your orders do come through, everyone should be cautious of pinning this gear without getting it tested. I trashed my whole order that came through right when this all started with the bad equipoise. The eq was obviously garbage and the test cyp was piss yellow. Unfortunately when buying gear from underground labs this is a risk we take. Sometimes you gotta just take the loss and move on.
 

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