MESO-Rx Sponsor Axle Labs - US Domestic

[Tbaz192]

View: https://www.instagram.com/reel/DOd_SfXDrmA/?igsh=cTZoOWRpMmJnbmV1

All I can see “500 test wasn’t enough”

 

[TRT]

Axel, is that you?? lol

Jokes aside, we had a member try everything they could to salvage the crashed eq including adding solvent and following the pfizer instructions of warming and dissolving with no success. Crystalized as soon as it cooled.

Edit: @RockyP That seems sketchy af, especially if they were OOS prior to going ghost. Maybe preying on the poor tiktokers. I mean, fuck them for what they are doing to this industry, but still wouldnt anyone getting scammed period. Shame only some of the affected would even dig close to deep enough to come across meso, AFTER getting scammed :/

(Grabbing chest aggressively over heart.)
Ouch…oh, ouch. You’re hurting me. Stop. Stop it. Haha

I’m not sticking up for Ax or whoever the fuck he is but to support the fact that if the customer exhausted every last avenue to restore it back to being suspended then that would be suspicious to me.
What to do from here as far as maybe testing or the customer just trashing it and trying to get a refund is up to him ultimately.

 

[Methyl Mike]

******DO NOT ORDER FROM THIS SOURCE******


I ordered from this source 14 days ago and got a quick 'your order has processed' auto response, sent BTC, got confirmation payment received, and nothing since.

Emailed several times with proton mail account to the correct email support@AXLELABS.net and zero responses.

According to chatgpt there have not been any major busts in the last week or two so I'm thinking bad thoughts about this source.

I've dealt with sources who lag and take their time, they always communicate (with lies but all the same) so getting absolutely no response at all makes me feel I've been burned which is all the more frustrating because there are so many other vendors I could have used....

 

[Methyl Mike]

I'm new to the thread and I would've stopped in sooner but you know how things get this time of year. I am here for a specific reason that I'll get into after I get acclimated by doing some reading.

I quoted the above post that I saw yesterday. I'll admit brewing is not my area of expertise but I do know a good # of longtime brewers. I've been around Meso for 19 yrs now. I first registered on anabolex and elitefitness back in the late 1990's. I've never heard what was said about crashed gear and how once it falls out the first time it becomes more and more frequent or easier or however it was put. That sounds like something I would say if I was trying to play the part. I'm not, though?

I mean, it sound reasonable...but its just conjecture. Cold weather(temp) and high concentration is what causes gear to fall out and that's it. If this was cleared up already I apologize for rehashing it but sounding like we know what we're talking about and doing so with a serious tone doesn't mean we actually do.

I'll do some more reading and then get into why I'm here. I don't think I welcomed Axle to my neighborhood so here goes....Welcome, Axle.

Good to see you Ben. We go way back on these boards, 2001 on elite for me. Crazy how time flies and here we are dealing with the same low IQ bullshit.

 

[Jron]

Surprised to hear people are not getting responses from Axle. I ordered 3 vials 20ML mast e on 11/22. Cost about 400 but everything arrived in 7 days.

 

[SwolieGuacamole]

Axle last posted Wednesday.

He’s mentioned multiple times to email if you were looking for a refund in the EQ case.

Tracking for orders aside, has anyone been answered specific to refunds?

 

[Whistles77]

Sounds like site opsec compromised, not sure i can understand what these updates actually mean and who is who. "The online guy", "new brewer"?

"Please don’t place any more orders."

Sounds like really fucking good advice

 

[The Answ3r]

Honestly it all sounds like pure bullshit. The guy could have logged in with one of his burner accounts, the same heroic accounts that used to leave five star love letters about his magical products. But no, apparently he can only access Telegram and only found the courage to speak up now.

At this point I am fully convinced he is a trash vendor. I am genuinely thrilled I never sent him a single dollar. I would not even be surprised if they are keeping a client database of everyone who ever bought from them.

Screw him, I do not care, but I do feel bad for the guys who lost money. Then again, if you hand cash to a clown, you should not be surprised when the circus burns down.

 

[trtbuilder]

Honestly it all sounds like pure bullshit. The guy could have logged in with one of his burner accounts, the same heroic accounts that used to leave five star love letters about his magical products. But no, apparently he can only access Telegram and only found the courage to speak up now.

At this point I am fully convinced he is a trash vendor. I am genuinely thrilled I never sent him a single dollar. I would not even be surprised if they are keeping a client database of everyone who ever bought from them.

Screw him, I do not care, but I do feel bad for the guys who lost money. Then again, if you hand cash to a clown, you should not be surprised when the circus burns down.

Yep, makes zero sense.

And if he was running an operation where his "online guy" had full control over the website to the point he could lock Axle out fully the opsec was always shit in the first place.

Let's be smarter with our purchasing the next time he pops back up.

 

[k710]

Sounds like site opsec compromised, not sure i can understand what these updates actually mean and who is who. "The online guy", "new brewer"?

"Please don’t place any more orders."

Sounds like really fucking good advice

Hacked? Raided/In custody?
Partner troubles? or Just another lie to try and rinse their hands clean?

*dramatic rythmic music*

Tune in tomorrow to find out.
Same thread, same time.
Goodnight America

 

[Tbaz192]

Oh boy…. Yeah don’t order yall. No brainer.

Grab popcorn, shits bout to go down.
I got $5 MC is involved.

Remember the leaks that happened? XD they got some bad blood

 

[Lobsterneck7]

Despite all of this, since my EQ arrived not crashed and crystal clear I’m gonna get tucked into my blast next week along with the TC200. Will keep an update…

 

[Ghoul]

Not shilling for Axle but you don’t have to have 20 years of hands on brewing experience to understand the physics of what he’s saying about crashing more easily after the first time is true. Any powder dissolved in a heated solvent—like sugar in hot water, will stay stable until it gets too cold.

Once it crashes the first time, after reheating it’ll crystallize more easily the next time.

2 main reasons are:

1) micro-crystals don’t fully dissolve. These act as “seeds” for new crystals to form around.

I had some vials of test show up crashed. Reheated on a coffee warmer, next morning it was crashed again. This kept happening despite being a warm house.

I know other people have had this exact thing happen.

After putting a vial in an oven at the lowest temp, middle rack, for 40 minutes it’ didn’t crash again. The only explanation for that is more time allowed for complete melting of micro crystals, and also possibly because even heating keeps the BB and oil better blended instead of separating, which a coffee warmer does by making the vial bottom hotter than the top. (I shake the vials half way through to make sure).

Demonstration of how “seeding” a few sugar crystals makes the whole sugar solution crash.


View: https://youtube.com/shorts/cw4vA8UrDWw


2) I can’t explain the science behind this (and I’m not that interested) but I know once a crash happens the first time, the molecules change in a way that makes it easier for them to “fit” together more easily the next time. So they’ll crystallize faster and at a higher temp than the first time.

Whether the 40 minute oven treatment would do the trick with those EQ vials I have no idea, but might be worth a shot. Don’t forget to shake half way through.

 

[DeafJam]

Axle last posted Wednesday.

He’s mentioned multiple times to email if you were looking for a refund in the EQ case.

Tracking for orders aside, has anyone been answered specific to refunds?

I emailed him, but given what is going on, I don’t expect to hear back.

 

[Photon]

Any powder dissolved in a heated solvent—like sugar in hot water, will stay stable until it gets too cold.

Once it crashes the first time, after reheating it’ll crystallize more easily the next time.

The thing is, nobody has ever seen EQ crash.
I have it brewed at ~750mg/ml with no solvents, placed it in the freezer and it doesn't crash.

Aside from his word that it's so pure that it crashes, there's no other proof or test that shows that. It's not a powder, it has a very low melting point. It maintains a liquid state as a raw in the freezer.

 

[2envy]

Seriously, sources are using telegram now? Like what the fuck. Do you have any idea how big of an OPSEC risk that is? Telegram has confirmed that they work with LE around the globe. Channels are being deleted after all IP's and user data has been logged. It might not have hit steroid sources yet, but everything else, think recreational drugs, are getting popped.

Make a post @Axle Labs clearly your telegram account has not been compromised so you should be able to post here. Shut your shitty website down until you get shit resolve.

Incoming rebrand by next year.

 

[Ghoul]

The thing is, nobody has ever seen EQ crash.
I have it brewed at ~750mg/ml with no solvents, placed it in the freezer and it doesn't crash.

Aside from his word that it's so pure that it crashes, there's no other proof or test that shows that. It's not a powder, it has a very low melting point. It maintains a liquid state as a raw in the freezer.

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The quote I was responding to got left off the post, which would’ve made the context clear.

I was addressing his comment about recrashing becoming easier after the first time, which was being called into question.

Obviously something’s fucked up. It’s not EQ, or the raw has some crazy unreacted leftovers as nucleation points for crystallization, contaminants etc.

(Although a raw being liquid at room temp doesn’t mean it can’t crystallize under the right conditions, you can supersaturate hot water or tea with honey, and once the liquid cools it’ll “crash” and form crystals.)

I have no idea what the deal is with those vials, and said as much in the last sentence, I was responding to the phenomenon of recrashing becoming more likely after the first.

 

[lougotsauce]

Honestly it all sounds like pure bullshit. The guy could have logged in with one of his burner accounts, the same heroic accounts that used to leave five star love letters about his magical products. But no, apparently he can only access Telegram and only found the courage to speak up now.

At this point I am fully convinced he is a trash vendor. I am genuinely thrilled I never sent him a single dollar. I would not even be surprised if they are keeping a client database of everyone who ever bought from them.

Screw him, I do not care, but I do feel bad for the guys who lost money. Then again, if you hand cash to a clown, you should not be surprised when the circus burns down.

Yep, could not agree more with every point that was made here. This guy is full of shit. It went from one flimsy excuse “I can’t buy postage from our normal postage provider” which I cannot believe some of you more “seasoned” users believed- to another flimsy ass excuse.

The way he is talking about his own operation with their cute roles like “online guy” is like some vendor account ran by a couple dudes who are running an operation out of their frat house. Hilarious.

This entire situation is a dumpster fire.

 

[adrenalytic]

Doesn't make sense that he'd be sending out testing reimbursements then disappear the next day which is basically what happened. Terrible exit scam strategy.

 

[Wildcard781]

******DO NOT ORDER FROM THIS SOURCE******


I ordered from this source 14 days ago and got a quick 'your order has processed' auto response, sent BTC, got confirmation payment received, and nothing since.

Emailed several times with proton mail account to the correct email support@AXLELABS.net and zero responses.

According to chatgpt there have not been any major busts in the last week or two so I'm thinking bad thoughts about this source.

I've dealt with sources who lag and take their time, they always communicate (with lies but all the same) so getting absolutely no response at all makes me feel I've been burned which is all the more frustrating because there are so many other vendors I could have used....

That sucks man. I hope you at minimum get a refund, but I'm not optimistic after following this drama.

Seriously, sources are using telegram now? Like what the fuck. Do you have any idea how big of an OPSEC risk that is? Telegram has confirmed that they work with LE around the globe. Channels are being deleted after all IP's and user data has been logged. It might not have hit steroid sources yet, but everything else, think recreational drugs, are getting popped.

Make a post @Axle Labs clearly your telegram account has not been compromised so you should be able to post here. Shut your shitty website down until you get shit resolve.

Incoming rebrand by next year.

So, we've had 808 Labs, Axle Labs. What's the name of the next one?