Arnold classic top five predictions

[canadabber]

who you got? Mine are:
1st roelly
2nd curry
3rd bonac
4th lenartowicz
5th McMillan



(Vid above explains the choices in more detail) because lots of people are not liking my roelly pic after his guest posing two weeks ago

 

[Mac11wildcat]

Curry
Roelly
lenartowicz
Sandoe
Bonac

This is the Arnold. Shape will mean more than size. Conditioning more than freak factor. Just my .02.

It’s all a tossup. The lineup is DEEP this year.

 

[canadabber]

I like those pics you got, and yeh lineup is deep and its so open this is gunna be an awesome arnold!

 

[Mac11wildcat]

After prejudging:
Curry
Bonac
Sandoe
McMillan
Kuclo
Roelly

 

[Mac11wildcat]

Lol NVM, first callout wasn’t what i thought it’d be.

 

[canadabber]

Lol NVM, first callout wasn’t what i thought it’d be.

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I think your prolly right (at least for top4), it was strange the way they did it, but yeh its 1st 2nd between bonac and curry, i'd agree and say curry.
3rd 4th between sandoe and mcmillan, this is a toss up sandoe tho prolly edges with conditioning.
then 5th 6th, its i guess between lenartowicz, kuclo, roelly, rafeal....

if u made me guess i do with 5th roelly, 6th lenartowicz, 7th kuclo, 8th rafeal (if they like conditioning more than size tho maybe move rafeal up a spot or two)

lol btw if the show was just judged on the most muscular only... id maybe give it to lenartowicz (with his hands on hip he is just massize) or maybe roelly... but there are 7 other poses

 

[weighted chinup]

Damn, I was hoping for a better Roelly.

Always been a big fan of his freak-factor, it's unparalleled imo, and Curacao is a pretty cool place.

I saw that guest pose footage but I thought maybe he was truly 4 weeks out condition but his coaches were doing some voodoo shit with his protocols and he was actually just holding 50lbs of water waiting to pull it out before the show.

Guess not

 

[weighted chinup]

Curry looked phenomenal though, definitely one of the most improved guys.

 

[weighted chinup]

I have to say though, I was disappointed with Classic Physique this year, don't get me wrong, the winner looked fantastic, but it's truly starting to feel like the division of undersized open guys instead of its own unique thing. Not to be disparaging, they are still carrying absurd amounts of muscle more than me or 99% of the people walking around, but the growing pains of a new division looking for an identity of it's own are readily apparent watching this years results. Men's physique solved that issue by now I feel but I'm sure it took a while.

 

[Mac11wildcat]

I have to say though, I was disappointed with Classic Physique this year, don't get me wrong, the winner looked fantastic, but it's truly starting to feel like the division of undersized open guys instead of its own unique thing. Not to be disparaging, they are still carrying absurd amounts of muscle more than me or 99% of the people walking around, but the growing pains of a new division looking for an identity of it's own are readily apparent watching this years results. Men's physique solved that issue by now I feel but I'm sure it took a while.

I disagree. Mostly because you can’t judge “classic.”

IMO the top two were apples and oranges more than any other comparison ever.

Physique is a mess to me. Wtf are the rules...

 

[weighted chinup]

Physique is a mess to me. Wtf are the rules...

No idea lol, I don't follow it whatsoever. But at the least they seem to have their own distinct look (most could tell a guy is an MP competitor vs an open competitor pretty easily if they saw them in person, no idea how they are judged though).

I agree the criteria is absurdly subjective, and even the shit people say about what classic should be (lines, symmetry, whatever) are requirements of a guy in the open too. No one is winning the Arnold without good definition and symmetry really.

I've noticed over the last few years a lot of negativity towards the open on social media and that to me is a fucking shame because I'm a huge fan of watching it, it's the only division I genuinely have an interest in. There's a lot of people saying they want less freaks and a more "healthier look" (lol) and I think that's going to drive the popularity of Classic. I think a lot of the negativity comes from some high profile deaths and the subsequent demonization of being massive by people who have no experience with it and who have a bitter/negative view of bodybuilding (yet they still follow it..).

 

[Mac11wildcat]

Open isn’t going anywhere. It pays the bills.

 

[Mac11wildcat]

After prejudging:
Curry
Bonac
Sandoe
McMillan
Kuclo
Roelly

I came damn close

 

[canadabber]

I have to say though, I was disappointed with Classic Physique this year, don't get me wrong, the winner looked fantastic, but it's truly starting to feel like the division of undersized open guys instead of its own unique thing. Not to be disparaging, they are still carrying absurd amounts of muscle more than me or 99% of the people walking around, but the growing pains of a new division looking for an identity of it's own are readily apparent watching this years results. Men's physique solved that issue by now I feel but I'm sure it took a while.

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I dunno you have to reward that muscle maturity that george has, its got to be worth something. He's older has had more time to develop, give these young guys with insane structures some times to get more mass and a grainier look and more maturity then they win.

 

[canadabber]

I disagree. Mostly because you can’t judge “classic.”

IMO the top two were apples and oranges more than any other comparison ever.

Physique is a mess to me. Wtf are the rules...

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yeh classic i agree, you have to reward the muscle maturity and density and conditioning of a guy like George, thats worth something (and it probably stands out even more in person than it does translated on video or pics). Those other guys have superior structures/lines but they have to fill it out, they are young george has put the time in and that is always rewarded in bodybuilding! All that said in a few years those other guys with cartoon structures that dont make sense, they get that denser mature muscle they will just win.

Last note physique is just def tough to judge for sure, you grab random people who dont watch bodybuilding and make them judge a physique show they will give you a huge range of different winners and placings, but literally bodybuidling when you watch even for the first time, a person with no experience can look at the guys as they go through the poses compare them better and prolly make pretty good guesses at who will win. Lastly as a bodybuilding competitor after the show, you can def break down each of your poses see where you were weak adn lost and what you have to work on and where you were strong. It just makes sense. Physique may be like, hmmm myabe i need a new haircut and different colors board shorts lol

 

[canadabber]

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I came damn close

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yeh u pretty much nailed it!