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Are there any other supplements besides creatine that arent a waste of money?
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Proud Pangolin
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-1g of Glycerin per kg Bodyweight with 1,5l water 90min before training,
-8g of Oxystorm (=800mg nitrate) 3h before the gym (flurp that shit for max. effect)
-12g of l-arginine + 12g of l-citrulline like 30mins before the gym
12 grams of Arginine you'll be shitting out your liver jesus christ.
Proud Pangolin
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???
Proud Pangolin
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Im literally never had any szomache issues with l-arginine
lucky lol. I took 5grams a few times and was fighting for my life in the bathroom for 20minutes
Ghoul
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Believe it or not, growth hormone addiction is a thing, especially with prices dropping.
A few unique risks with LR3 include the fact it's immune to IGF binding hormone, so the body can't clear it the way it normally would, and it remains in your system for much longer than natural IGF-1.
Continuous stimulation of IGF-1 receptors can make them "pull into" the cell, and you become less responsive to IGF, similar to insulin resistance. No one knows how long this resistance lasts.
Regular IGF tests can't reliably detect it. Because of its long acting nature, with daily use it can build up, and you may be walking around with much higher effective IGF levels than you're aware of.
Im just completely baffled, to be talikg 0.5mg/day would mean someome did absolutely no research into effective doses, safety thresholds, or previous user experiences.
Ghoul
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Or that dose is needed for the desired anabolic effect due to the receptor downregulation resistance I mentioned.
It's usually diagnosed by muscle wasting despite high IGF levels. The treatment is cranking up IGF levels via rHGH or rIGF to overcome the resistance so muscles stabilize or grow again. But it's a tightrope, because that can further desensitize IGF receptors.
With cheap, abundant rHGH and IGF LR3 we're getting into uncharted territory. No one's conducting a study where they intentionally subject humans to "abusive" levels of these things for extended periods.
But as a group, we're informally conducting them now....
I mean you make a good point. What we consider to be 'high' ped usage these days was considered insane 20 years ago, maybe 500mcg will be a baby dose in 10 more years?
I cant see the future but thanks for keeping me humble.
BigDadd7
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Oh my
Oldhand
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I take much less supplements now then I did 20 years ago. I’ve stopped arginine, glutamine, beta alanine, cartilage, glucosamine, chondroitin, and turmeric. Also no more thermogenics or energy drinks. Still use a stim based pre-workout, but I am STRONGLY considering moving to a stim-free preworkout.
Currently, I feel a good probiotic, multivitamin, fish oil, and a vitamin B complex do a good job. Of course creatine, and whey come first. I’ve went to whey isolate as I got older- it seems to reduce bloat and inflammation (dairy starts to get hard on you as you age it seems???).
Currently, I feel a good probiotic, multivitamin, fish oil, and a vitamin B complex do a good job. Of course creatine, and whey come first. I’ve went to whey isolate as I got older- it seems to reduce bloat and inflammation (dairy starts to get hard on you as you age it seems???).
Im all in support of this. Ive dialed back my supplements drastically as well, more health focused, less all out mass focused.
Same. These days I only take things that I have a specific reason to take it:
CoQ10 (statin)
Hyaluronic acid (skin)
TMG (homocysteine)
Astragalus (kidneys)
TUDCA/NAC (oxandrolone)
Vascepa/Pitavastatin/Nexlizet (heart)
Tadalafil (Prostate/Sex)
That seems like a smart stack, have you noticed much of a difference taking astragalus? Or is it one of those supplements you just trust is working in the background type things?
whee do you source the Vascepa? I want to start Vascepa and Lovaza generics but having trouble finding them
Photon
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This was shared by Bama.
Its for the generic tho.
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Buy it, it comes with a prescription, bring to your PCP to renew.
The branded version of Vascepa now costs me 9$/3m.
Ghoul
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This was shared by Bama.
Its for the generic tho.
Manage Your Cholesterol with an Online Prescription
Manage cholesterol with an easy online prescription. TelyRx provides quick approvals and fast delivery for hassle-free treatment access.
Buy it, it comes with a prescription, bring to your PCP to renew.
The branded version of Vascepa now costs me 9$/3m.
I may go for that generic Lovaza. I don't need any significant triglyceride reduction, and DHA is great for eye/brain health. Better than any OTC fish oil. Guaranteed potency, no oxidation, no heavy metal or other crap and after insurance virtually free.
Photon
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I actually did think of that too. However Lovaza is actually prescribed for very high trigs lol
Vascepa seems to be more for CV reduction
Granted i have not gone in to look at the research -- honestly i just treat this as a replacement for fish oil that is of better quality.
Liter O' Test
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Hyaluronic acid oral
berberine
Astragalus
NAC
Cialis
i think 1500mg glut in a weekly shot is good aswell
i stopped my multivitamin a week ago, who knows what the random shit does at the doses
berberine
Astragalus
NAC
Cialis
i think 1500mg glut in a weekly shot is good aswell
i stopped my multivitamin a week ago, who knows what the random shit does at the doses
