Are bodybuilders drug addicts?

i mean glps are not necessary but if someone need the help i dgaf in the end the result is what matters, no one care how u got there and yeah its not cool because people like us? (me) can be lean all the year with discipline and good activity levels, and now its easy asf for everyone to just inject something and u always feel full(i know there are many other benefits) but i tbink there are so many other things that i care about to be mad for people using glps

It's just people who put too much of their identity into being lean and now there's drugs that make it effortless to obtain so now they're struggling with identity crisis.

It's why they try to use shame tactics and it's consistent across this personality type whether they're posting on forums or socials.

Maybe they should focus on being actually big instead of trying to flex their 150 lb lean discipline lol.
 
It's just people who put too much of their identity into being lean and now there's drugs that make it effortless to obtain so now they're struggling with identity crisis.

It's why they try to use shame tactics and it's consistent across this personality type whether they're posting on forums or socials.

Maybe they should focus on being actually big instead of trying to flex their 150 lb lean discipline lol.
"Im not trying to get too big or be bulky"

yeah...we know bro
 
It's just people who put too much of their identity into being lean and now there's drugs that make it effortless to obtain so now they're struggling with identity crisis.

It's why they try to use shame tactics and it's consistent across this personality type whether they're posting on forums or socials.

Maybe they should focus on being actually big instead of trying to flex their 150 lb lean discipline lol.
im 146lb dont joke on me lmao
 
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Bad purity culture mindset, man.
I can only repeat my prior points. Your entire argument is built on "you dont actually need it/you are weak for using this", which is a very weak argument to use in a forum full of recreational PED users who want to look and feel good and strong and do not see an issue with using pharmaceuticals to get there quicker/easier.

It makes the process more enjoyable. some people need the suffering at least once or twice to get mentally hardened, but for most just using a GLP-1 agonist is nothing bad.
I'm saying though....guys are on so much stuff. Like say hypothetically someone told you they take test deca drop dbol eq tren gh reta glp t3 t4 clen slin dnp yohimbine metformin bp meds and a statin...you'd laugh and be in shock. Where do we draw the line to where we just need to get a life lol
 
It's just people who put too much of their identity into being lean and now there's drugs that make it effortless to obtain so now they're struggling with identity crisis.

It's why they try to use shame tactics and it's consistent across this personality type whether they're posting on forums or socials.

Maybe they should focus on being actually big instead of trying to flex their 150 lb lean discipline lol.
9/10 these are men who either do yoga or calisthenics bragging about their flexibility and functional muscle.
 
I'm saying though....guys are on so much stuff. Like say hypothetically someone told you they take test deca drop dbol eq tren gh reta glp t3 t4 clen slin dnp yohimbine metformin bp meds and a statin...you'd laugh and be in shock. Where do we draw the line to where we just need to get a life lol
some of thsoe compounds are dangerous, for sure, but i dint see anything wrond with that stack except for metformin and DNP+ using 2 orals at the same time. all the other stuff seems about fine, maybe a bit overkill.

Nothing else makes me go "ooh nooo, how horrible. polypharmacy is gonna kill this man" maybe a bit much, maybe you could cut a fatburner or two and still get the same results, maybe dropping the Nand+ Dbol would also be a good idea (water retention during a cut is no fun).

I have see nseveral people on far more medications than what you listed, including multiple anabolic steroids, simply because they were old (65yo+).
3 BP meds, Diuretics, Jardiance, Test + Nandrolone, sleep medications, stimulants to wake up again, 3 different pain medications being cycled so they dont get addicted, and much, much more.

This is nothing uncommon in the real world. Us PED users are probably some of the less reckless drug users, even if it can seem like a lot of drug use to you personally.
 
some of thsoe compounds are dangerous, for sure, but i dint see anything wrond with that stack except for metformin and DNP+ using 2 orals at the same time. all the other stuff seems about fine, maybe a bit overkill.

Nothing else makes me go "ooh nooo, how horrible. polypharmacy is gonna kill this man" maybe a bit much, maybe you could cut a fatburner or two and still get the same results, maybe dropping the Nand+ Dbol would also be a good idea (water retention during a cut is no fun).

I have see nseveral people on far more medications than what you listed, including multiple anabolic steroids, simply because they were old (65yo+).
3 BP meds, Diuretics, Jardiance, Test + Nandrolone, sleep medications, stimulants to wake up again, 3 different pain medications being cycled so they dont get addicted, and much, much more.

This is nothing uncommon in the real world. Us PED users are probably some of the less reckless drug users, even if it can seem like a lot of drug use to you personally.
I guess we will agree to disagree. I find it a flaw if a human has to consume so many different drugs all at once to be healthy or meet their goals. This is what I was getting at. If we were to create the perfect human, he would not need to rely on exogenous drug use. There are certainly drawbacks of being a walking pharmacy in my opinion. But in today's age it is now almost acceptable for people to eat pills and poke needles all day. What if they're was some event and all this shit wasn't readily available?.Who would survive, the guy used to taking 40 pills a day or the guy who needs none? I mean, if in 1984 you said that in the future some humans would need a machine to sleep, that would be frowned upon. Say a man travels for work, isn't it a hassle to haul.a machine around all day taking it to various cities and hotels? Lol
 
I guess we will agree to disagree. I find it a flaw if a human has to consume so many different drugs all at once to be healthy or meet their goals. This is what I was getting at. If we were to create the perfect human, he would not need to rely on exogenous drug use. There are certainly drawbacks of being a walking pharmacy in my opinion. But in today's age it is now almost acceptable for people to eat pills and poke needles all day. What if they're was some event and all this shit wasn't readily available?.Who would survive, the guy used to taking 40 pills a day or the guy who needs none? I mean, if in 1984 you said that in the future some humans would need a machine to sleep, that would be frowned upon. Say a man travels for work, isn't it a hassle to haul.a machine around all day taking it to various cities and hotels? Lol
fair, but lets be real, in an apocalypse scenario all of us here are dead.
Cpap has been around since 1980 or so btw. so people in 1984 who were interested in the medical sciences/ working in hospitals would not be very surprised that Cpap tech is still being used.

If you travel for work, being large is not ideal. dont matter if you are fat or muscular. People should do what their lifestyle allows them to do. If you are an academic, taking opiates all day is probably not a good idea. If you travel, being large is probably not a good idea. if you are a surgeon, doing hallucinogens is not a good idea. If you are a policeman, doing meth is a bad idea.

Different lifestyles and jobs have different requirements, and you have to be ready for the job you are doing. Not "what if you have to travel" "what if society collapses" etc.
If I get a job that involves a lot of travel, I will change the pharmaceuticals I am taking to suit that job. If I start cleaning chimneys, I will lose 10ish kgs so I dont get stuck. Your argument falls flat, and its a weird mixture of appeal to nature + not acknowledging that people have different lifestyles, priorities, etc.

If we follow your line of argument, we could go down the route of: you can sterilize yourself with AAS abuse, and some people want kids, so if you want kids tomorrow you will have to start expensive fertility protocols. And noone has the time to make that change, yeah? bring all these medications with him, thats such a hassle.

The infinite spiral of "what ifs" and "but its all so much" is an argument why you personally probably should not partake in "reckless" polypharmacy. That is your right as a person. But just because you personally do not have the motivation to use a bunch of different substances does not mean that other people are 1.: worse 2.: incapable of prioritizing what is important in their lives 3.: incapable of managing their personal drug use 4.: morally inferior in any way shape or form.
They are simply different people with different goals and different realities of life.
 
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