BigPapaPump
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Hey does anyone know if animal stack is a good supplement to take or is there better. I am 5 10 and 190 and want to get bigger. I am in the military so nothing that will show up positive in a piss test.
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Anabolic Steroids
Animal Stack
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Lestat
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I may be wrong but I don't think that during a typical UA they test for gear in the military due to cost. I know they don't or at least don't care for special forces.
BigPapaPump
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ok but do you have any recomendations for good working supplements to take. I already take creatine, glutamine, zma, and animal stack but am open for suggetsions.
Lestat
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It is expensive but PS is really good all the time when you are not using for reducing cortisol. May be the best supp I've used for when you are natural. I like gear better.
BigPapaPump
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what exactly is gear and where and for how much can I buy it?
Lestat
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Gear is another term for steroids.
wic2111
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as long as you don't make your gains to obvious you won't have to worry about getting tested for juice in the military. They are after thc, opiates,etc etc they could care less and don't want to spend the money. Besides they can't single you out unless they have evidence like a witness or pins.
Animal Stack is imo just overpriced vitamins. I would say to get a good multi vitamin, some whey, a good diet, rest and workout and you are good to go. If you like the creatine go ahead. I have read that the glut is a waiste of $$. As far as AS go, I would wait until you have the above in order and have lots of time learning what "gear" is. I dont get why everyone started talking about gear when this guy only wanted to know about a vitamin.
ijustmegdu
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the best supplement i have used so far is by Sann, their V-12 fuel injection. it is over priced and will work for about 1-2 cycles. you sgould get and hold almost 10 lbs out of it in a few months if you train well.
BigPapaPump
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the training program I am trying right now is Jay cutlers of his web site. Its pretty good so far but we will see where it gets me. Thanks for the info guys.
crewchief
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safe supps
Well as far as i have heard and read the military doesnt test for GEAR unless they have a reason . like someone sees you get huge in a short time period and your comander tells them to test you. but that is the only time but if they do you will piss hot for any kind of androsten on the market it will show up as a fals-positive and they will ask you what you are taking and then tell you to stop it and put a note in your medical records. but as far as non-gear stuff goes i have takin most of it out there and i get better result from eating like a horse than prohormones and the like. although you may feel a better bump in the gym i dont see size gains but you do see some strenght gains. i think the best one out there is androstenedione look to get about 1/10 the result of the real gear. I have yet to try some of the HGH out there but i have some on the way to try it out (the legal stuff). most of the sruff it expensive but i would not recomend animal stack didnt have very good result, as with AST,or VPX,IDS products. By the way What your AFSC i think you can guess mine.(screen name) i hope this helps later bro.
Well as far as i have heard and read the military doesnt test for GEAR unless they have a reason . like someone sees you get huge in a short time period and your comander tells them to test you. but that is the only time but if they do you will piss hot for any kind of androsten on the market it will show up as a fals-positive and they will ask you what you are taking and then tell you to stop it and put a note in your medical records. but as far as non-gear stuff goes i have takin most of it out there and i get better result from eating like a horse than prohormones and the like. although you may feel a better bump in the gym i dont see size gains but you do see some strenght gains. i think the best one out there is androstenedione look to get about 1/10 the result of the real gear. I have yet to try some of the HGH out there but i have some on the way to try it out (the legal stuff). most of the sruff it expensive but i would not recomend animal stack didnt have very good result, as with AST,or VPX,IDS products. By the way What your AFSC i think you can guess mine.(screen name) i hope this helps later bro.
BigPapaPump
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I am ak-9 cop. I have already started to eat quite a bit of food. I have been slackin on the gym lately due to being sick and my job schedule. I am going to try to get back into it today.
crewchief
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oh a k9 cop well i have a question do your dogs smell AAS? always wonderd that one. Its kinda funny to see a cop on this sight. yeah its real hard working out with the messed up work hours the military can give you . do you work the three on two off thing i wish i had that sometimes. i have herd some good things about M1t i am going to give it a try soon, there are some good threds to read about it on here give it a search.
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BigPapaPump
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Iam currently workin four days on two days off 12 hour shifts. And to answer your question, no drug dogs cannot detect AAS.
MACHI
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Andro
4-Androstenediol and 19-nor-4-Androstenediol are the two most potent forms of the legal prohormone androstenedione on the market.
There are some new Test esters out but I havent researched them yet.
If your going to take andro --- don't take animal stack.
I love the company and what it preaches but animal stack is inferior to a lot of other products. I guess insofar as combination "stack" it is decent but for the anabolic ingredients your taking it for its not worth your money.
Pretty much any androstene"dione" will convert to estrogen as well as testosterone. You want to stick to the androstene"diol" or androdiol forms of andro because they have a higher testosterone conversion percentage and they do not convert to estrogen. 4-Androstenediol and 19-nor-4-Androstenediol being the two best.
Its the same concept as Whey - Concentrae, Isolate, Hydrolysate -- all about purity and conversion percentage
Best prices for these two compounds are at www.dpsnutrition.com
Androdiol select 300 by Ergopharm
Norandrodiol select 300 by Ergopharm
If you are considering andro you don't have many more months to decide as it could soon be illegal and classified with current steroids due to pending legislation in congress. I think the bill is H.R. 402. Not sure though.
Anyway, I saw people mention andro in the thread and thought you might be interested in that. Hope it helps
4-Androstenediol and 19-nor-4-Androstenediol are the two most potent forms of the legal prohormone androstenedione on the market.
There are some new Test esters out but I havent researched them yet.
If your going to take andro --- don't take animal stack.
I love the company and what it preaches but animal stack is inferior to a lot of other products. I guess insofar as combination "stack" it is decent but for the anabolic ingredients your taking it for its not worth your money.
Pretty much any androstene"dione" will convert to estrogen as well as testosterone. You want to stick to the androstene"diol" or androdiol forms of andro because they have a higher testosterone conversion percentage and they do not convert to estrogen. 4-Androstenediol and 19-nor-4-Androstenediol being the two best.
Its the same concept as Whey - Concentrae, Isolate, Hydrolysate -- all about purity and conversion percentage
Best prices for these two compounds are at www.dpsnutrition.com
Androdiol select 300 by Ergopharm
Norandrodiol select 300 by Ergopharm
If you are considering andro you don't have many more months to decide as it could soon be illegal and classified with current steroids due to pending legislation in congress. I think the bill is H.R. 402. Not sure though.
Anyway, I saw people mention andro in the thread and thought you might be interested in that. Hope it helps
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Desibaba
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Lol im always happy to see juiced up cops.They might not admit what they are doing but its obvious sometimes. Did you read that article in Muscular Development called Cops on juice?BigPapaPump said:
MACHI
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Md
I don't get MD regularly. Is it a good article? Some cops use gear because it IS NOT HARMFUL TO SOCIETY!!!!!
Damn I really wish I could fuckin sleep...... I take too many 1-2 hour naps in between classes......
I don't get MD regularly. Is it a good article? Some cops use gear because it IS NOT HARMFUL TO SOCIETY!!!!!
Damn I really wish I could fuckin sleep...... I take too many 1-2 hour naps in between classes......
Desibaba
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If you can only read one Bodybuilding magazine its a no brainer its gotta be MD.They are leaps and bounds over everything else on the market and they stand by the motto of no bullshit.And no im not on their payroll.
