Anavar vs Mast?

[lot827]

Been on 350mg of test weekly and thinking of adding in either var or mast in soon.

What are the sides of mast besides DHT? I’m not pre-disposed to any male pattern baldness so I think I’m relatively safe when it comes to hair loss. So would mast just be the safer drug to take? The two compounds seem relatively similar in what they do, but mast just seems to have less sides?

From my understanding:
Mast dries to out and makes you more vascular (I honestly don’t need this as I’m vascular and dry enough).
Var on the other hand increases strength while drying you out slightly, but not as much as mast.

In terms of benefits, I see var as being the superior drug for me as I’m genetically vascular and dry looking at around 11-12% body fat. However are the kidney/liver sides worth it compared to a drug that seeminglessly has little sides?

I’m also interested in mast for a libido boost as my libido is basically non-existent. Any anecdotal experiences from people who’ve run both on their own? Would love to hear your experiences.

 

[BabaJagga]

with dht you are lookin at potentional acne. last year my back exploded from mast/var. also prostate issues can be there, i can feel mine, when i sneeze it can be sometimes bit painfull

its nice combination, im running both of them rn, 300/300 test/mast + 50var daily.

cosmetic effect is real, dry and vascular, capped delts, very hard look. i like it very much.

biggest issue with var will be lipids. you will delete your hdl basicly so you wanna aggressive ld managament. last year, after 8 weeks of var my hdl was 14 i think but ldl was 43 due to statin use. liver values were not touched at all, like 0 difference.

you can get libido boost from mast but its not sure thing. sometimes im like teeneager, sometimes its not there...

i love var tbh, i think its great compound overall. at least for cut.

 

[Athleticfreak]

Mast you can stay on for months
Var you want to get off at approx 6-8 weeks

Var will noticeably change your physique
Mast, ehhh not so much

Some experience painful pumps with var
Nothing negative while working out with mast

Availability now for both is iffy, you can find both but not with highly respected domestic except one and he’s not here

I tried not adding the same stuff @BabaJagga said, all his points were solid.

 

[2ndchancesNK]

@BabaJagga and @Athleticfreak both got the right ideas.

I’m very biased towards Masteron and run it alongside Test in every cycle. It’s the ultimate feel good compound; increased drive/motivation, increased mood, libido damn high to almost a fault. It’s not going to pack on major amounts of size, but will provide a certain look at a lower body fat.

I love Anavar also and have ran it 20-50mg. It will give a great strength increase and be helpful for breaking plateaus. Body weight goes up a few lbs, but nothing crazy to speak of in that department, you’ll just look a bit fuller.

If running either, or both, it’s important to have a good lipid stack in place as they will hammer that area of your bloodwork. I prefer 10mg Ezetimibe and am now trying Pitavastatin for the first time at 4mg.

 

[BabaJagga]

also, what is your goal with blast?

if its pure growth, i would leave var alone. ir can mess up stomach for some. you cant (or shouldnt heh) run it for extented periods of time in meaningfull doses so you will be limited by 8 weeks or so. thats short time for tissue building. mast will be better, more test will be the best for this tho

if you are cutting, var will preserve strenght in aggressive deficit and it has its own unique anti catabolic effects. but again, you cant (shouldnt) run it for whole 12-16 week cut.

if you are looking for strenght goals alone, var will boost your strenght and training performance a bit and it works as accute preworkout.

 

[lot827]

@BabaJagga and @Athleticfreak both got the right ideas.

I’m very biased towards Masteron and run it alongside Test in every cycle. It’s the ultimate feel good compound; increased drive/motivation, increased mood, libido damn high to almost a fault. It’s not going to pack on major amounts of size, but will provide a certain look at a lower body fat.

I love Anavar also and have ran it 20-50mg. It will give a great strength increase and be helpful for breaking plateaus. Body weight goes up a few lbs, but nothing crazy to speak of in that department, you’ll just look a bit fuller.

If running either, or both, it’s important to have a good lipid stack in place as they will hammer that area of your bloodwork. I prefer 10mg Ezetimibe and am now trying Pitavastatin for the first time at 4mg.

So in a sense they kinda balance each other out. A dry lean look while being somewhat full. Sounds great for aesthetics. Heard mast flattens you out a lot so I guess var would be a little deterrent to that as well as test being a wet compound.

 

[BabaJagga]

So in a sense they kinda balance each other out. A dry lean look while being somewhat full. Sounds great for aesthetics. Heard mast flattens you out a lot so I guess var would be a little deterrent to that as well as test being a wet compound.

go for both. wait until mast saturates and then hit var for 8 weeks. you will look like chisseled greek god statue

 

[lot827]

with dht you are lookin at potentional acne. last year my back exploded from mast/var. also prostate issues can be there, i can feel mine, when i sneeze it can be sometimes bit painfull

its nice combination, im running both of them rn, 300/300 test/mast + 50var daily.

cosmetic effect is real, dry and vascular, capped delts, very hard look. i like it very much.

biggest issue with var will be lipids. you will delete your hdl basicly so you wanna aggressive ld managament. last year, after 8 weeks of var my hdl was 14 i think but ldl was 43 due to statin use. liver values were not touched at all, like 0 difference.

you can get libido boost from mast but its not sure thing. sometimes im like teeneager, sometimes its not there...

i love var tbh, i think its great compound overall. at least for cut.

How long have you run mast for? I’m thinking of running it for around 12 weeks and maybe potentially adding var the last 4-8 weeks depending labs after reading though the comments.

 

[lot827]

@BabaJagga and @Athleticfreak both got the right ideas.

I’m very biased towards Masteron and run it alongside Test in every cycle. It’s the ultimate feel good compound; increased drive/motivation, increased mood, libido damn high to almost a fault. It’s not going to pack on major amounts of size, but will provide a certain look at a lower body fat.

I love Anavar also and have ran it 20-50mg. It will give a great strength increase and be helpful for breaking plateaus. Body weight goes up a few lbs, but nothing crazy to speak of in that department, you’ll just look a bit fuller.

If running either, or both, it’s important to have a good lipid stack in place as they will hammer that area of your bloodwork. I prefer 10mg Ezetimibe and am now trying Pitavastatin for the first time at 4mg.

You’ve convinced me lol

 

[BabaJagga]

How long have you run mast for? I’m thinking of running it for around 12 weeks and maybe potentially adding var the last 4-8 weeks depending labs after reading though the comments.

i would rather not tell.. for long..

mast, especially with var, will fckup your lipids mainly. other than that, you shouldnt have many issues... you wanna have statin for sure. hdl will be supressed 100% but if you keep ldl under 55, you should be good.

with var, watch for stomach, urine colour/smell (some people wont tolerate it), maybe do 4/4 on/off. rn i will be ending var run after 6 weeks and take a break until summer.

get alt/ast/ggt/cystatinin c before and after so you will have baseline and will see how it will impact your bloods. after that you can decide if you wanna do longer runs or if you should stay away from these compounds... depends on how much risk you are willing to take

 

[RockyP]

How long have you run mast for? I’m thinking of running it for around 12 weeks and maybe potentially adding var the last 4-8 weeks depending labs after reading though the comments.

Both Mast and Var will cause HDL to drop. Var most assuredly. Mast in more of a dose dependent manner, meaning you might get away with 300 - 400 mg mast without HDL going to total shit. But you may well get the full obliteration at that dosage. They're great compounds. Anavar is just the cat's ass. If you're lean to begin with, you'll see aesthetic changes in hours after taking that first dosage. You feel fantastic on it (mast also, though some report too much aggression on mast), which requires even more discipline to keep usage to your planned duration and not go overboard.

If I had to choose only one for a first go around, it would be anavar. You get fullness, pumps, and strength to compliment the aesthetics. Mast you get dryness, hardness, increased neural drive, etc. but i feel like the effects, while robust, are more subtle. Anavar gives a better combo of aesthetics and performance IMO, for these applications.

Where I find Mast to be the most helpful is for longer applications (several months) alongside tren or nandrolone. Mast really helps me manage / eliminate side effects from the 19-nor's, and adds it's own benefits on top. Both Mast and Var trash my HDL so i keep my LDL in the 30's.

 

[BabaJagga]

Both Mast and Var will cause HDL to drop. Var most assuredly. Mast in more of a dose dependent manner, meaning you might get away with 300 - 400 mg mast without HDL going to total shit. But you may well get the full obliteration at that dosage. They're great compounds. Anavar is just the cat's ass. If you're lean to begin with, you'll see aesthetic changes in hours after taking that first dosage. You fell fantastic on it (mast also, though some report too much aggression on mast), which requires even more discipline to keep usage to your planned duration and not go overboard.

If I had to choose only one for a first go around, it would be anavar. You get fullness, pumps, and strength to compliment the aesthetics. Mast you get dryness, hardness, increased neural drive, etc. but i feel like the effects, while robust, are more subtle. Anavar gives a better combo of aesthetics and performance IMO, for these applications.

Where I find Mast to be the most helpful is for longer applications (several months) alongside tren or nandrolone. Mast really helps me manage / eliminate side effects from the 19-nor's, and adds it's own benefits on top. Both Mast and Var trash my HDL so i keep my LDL in the 30's.

about anger, during last summer's cut, on test/mast/var, i had first and last anger explosion as very calm guy. mast + deficit for sure made a difference.

also sleep can be bad as both are cns stimulants...

 

[RockyP]

about anger, during last summer's cut, on test/mast/var, i had first and last anger explosion as very calm guy. mast + deficit for sure made a difference.

also sleep can be bad as both are cns stimulants...

Oh yeah, forgot about that last part. Between having OSA, young kids, and being on gear I haven't known good sleep in more than 7 years. Luckily with the CPAP the sleep i do get is restorative and I'm not hypoxic overnight anymore. But with the gear and reta, sleep is always a struggle.

One way to know if you have high quality Var is if you take 40 - 50 mg at once, you may get some palpitations. I do. But yes both Mast and Var crank the CNS up.

 

[BabaJagga]

Oh yeah, forgot about that last part. Between having OSA, young kids, and being on gear I haven't known good sleep in more than 7 years. Luckily with the CPAP the sleep i do get is restorative and I'm not hypoxic overnight anymore. But with the gear and reta, sleep is always a struggle.

One way to know if you have high quality Var is if you take 40 - 50 mg at once, you may get some palpitations. I do. But yes both Mast and Var crank the CNS up.

i can feel that cns is stimulated AF, inwake
up during night and im wide awake. hard time falling asleep as well, my head dont wanna go to sleep despite tired body.
sleep is very light. thankfully i can have nap after work.

but im sensitive to this. i have to drink all coffe before 11am or i have trouble sleepin.

var has 10h halflife i think, so using it later in the day as preworkout cound impact sleep as well. anadrol did same thing for me but worse

 

[hellerhiwater]

very hard, i think its great

same bro

jk

with ur prostate, did you find anything that helped keep the enlargement down? its one of those symptoms im worried about in the future

does it make nutting more difficult when its swollen?

 

[RockyP]

var has 10h halflife i think, so using it later in the day as preworkout cound impact sleep as well. anadrol did same thing for me but worse

I find that I get lethargic / tired late in the day when using anadrol as a PWO. Could also be just that my CNS is fried from overtraining that PWO use makes worse since I can go even harder. But even with that lethargy the sleep is still ass. The only thing that helps me sleep longer / better is a large, carb heavy meal as my last meal of the day. Notably, refeeds with cleanish food like sushi really help. Works every time. Just can't overdo it because if you go to bed full / bloated / needing to have a shit, it defeats the purpose.

 

[BabaJagga]

same bro

jk

with ur prostate, did you find anything that helped keep the enlargement down? its one of those symptoms im worried about in the future

does it make nutting more difficult when its swollen?

it went away after i removed sll dht's.
it wasnt swollen i think, just more sensitive.
but it was first time in my life ive felt my prostate (except "masages" heh)

i was pissing a lot but it was full load, not bit by bit. overall it wasnt big issue for me but im 28, it could be worse for older guys for sure

I find that I get lethargic / tired late in the day when using anadrol as a PWO. Could also be just that my CNS is fried from overtraining that PWO use makes worse since I can go even harder. But even with that lethargy the sleep is still ass. The only thing that helps me sleep longer / better is a large, carb heavy meal as my last meal of the day. Notably, refeeds with cleanish food like sushi really help. Works every time. Just can't overdo it because if you go to bed full / bloated / needing to have a shit, it defeats the purpose.

anadrol gave me insane lethargy as well. after one week i was useless except gym time. i could train like absolute animal, big round and strong but other than that i was like used chewing gum. sleep was still bad, body was super tired but mind was awake.

carbs before bed are always great, ideally with some fat added. ive found out that if i have only carbs, with fat, i tend to wake up during night with ravenous hunger, sky high HR and im fully awake in seconds.

it would help with mast/var for sure but im at 0 or minimal carbs so its hard.

 

[RockyP]

it went away after i removed sll dht's.
it wasnt swollen i think, just more sensitive.
but it was first time in my life ive felt my prostate (except "masages" heh)

i was pissing a lot but it was full load, not bit by bit. overall it wasnt big issue for me but im 28, it could be worse for older guys for sure



anadrol gave me insane lethargy as well. after one week i was useless except gym time. i could train like absolute animal, big round and strong but other than that i was like used chewing gum. sleep was still bad, body was super tired but mind was awake.

carbs before bed are always great, ideally with some fat added. ive found out that if i have only carbs, with fat, i tend to wake up during night with ravenous hunger, sky high HR and im fully awake in seconds.

it would help with mast/var for sure but im at 0 or minimal carbs so its hard.

Yes, dieting / calorie deficit makes all of this worse. And it's a trade off since going low carb really makes this worse for me, so I diet on relatively high carbs but use reta, which itself stimulates CNS so it's back to square one. Pick your poison lol.

To the OP, as you can see, lots of factors to consider. If it's just for 4 weeks or so, go with the anavar. For longer applications maybe consider mast.

 

[smpledude]

I am gonna do a
750-800mg test
300 EQ
200 tren E
I was thinking on adding either mast or an oral , right now my libido is 50/50 either I can be horny 24/7 or other days I don’t even feel it down there , so I thought of adding mast but at the same time I wanna the var aesthetic look ,
I have a bunch of Rosuvastatin in hand and I’ll be ordering glutha aswell , should I go for both and then drop var or stick to mast ?