a valid fat burner

[Juris93]

i know that diet is the most important thing , training is the second and bla bla.
i lost 30kg , had abdominoplasty and small liposuction on chest.... still have lot of fat and skin on hips , but even with 6 workout and 1500 kcal diet i can't see results on those specific points.
i am going to start a test cycle next year , i think increase size is a good solution for my problem, but i want try to lose as much fat as posible this summer.
i was thinking to eca ( avoid clen cause side effects at work may be problematics ) or something like this one
anyone know if 2 capsules of this may bring good results compared to diet alone

 

[GymRat88]

What are your stats?

 

[Btcowboy]

I find ECA stack to work best for me. I have never bought in to the other fat burning supplements. Although back in the day (20yrs ago)I was using ripped fuel when it was good lol. I have also tried clen and T3 and found the sides a bit much for me.

 

[Xlgx]

USN 3 XX pump and betancourt carnitine plus has me sweating like a rapist during morning cardio.

 

[SuperSwede]

I prefer injectable carnitine before oral

 

[ergomaniac]

I find ECA stack to work best for me. I have never bought in to the other fat burning supplements. Although back in the day (20yrs ago)I was using ripped fuel when it was good lol. I have also tried clen and T3 and found the sides a bit much for me.

because essentially, it was an ECA stack. and I am familiar with "ripped fuel".

 

[ergomaniac]

i know that diet is the most important thing , training is the second and bla bla.
i lost 30kg , had abdominoplasty and small liposuction on chest.... still have lot of fat and skin on hips , but even with 6 workout and 1500 kcal diet i can't see results on those specific points.
i am going to start a test cycle next year , i think increase size is a good solution for my problem, but i want try to lose as much fat as posible this summer.
i was thinking to eca ( avoid clen cause side effects at work may be problematics ) or something like this one
anyone know if 2 capsules of this may bring good results compared to diet alone

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yeah. blah, blah, blah. because this supplement is like ECA, except different. note the thyroid hormones, as dietary supplements. and 1500 cals.

 

[SuperSwede]

i know that diet is the most important thing , training is the second and bla bla.
i lost 30kg , had abdominoplasty and small liposuction on chest.... still have lot of fat and skin on hips , but even with 6 workout and 1500 kcal diet i can't see results on those specific points.
i am going to start a test cycle next year , i think increase size is a good solution for my problem, but i want try to lose as much fat as posible this summer.
i was thinking to eca ( avoid clen cause side effects at work may be problematics ) or something like this one
anyone know if 2 capsules of this may bring good results compared to diet alone

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We don’t know your stats,
But if you are a man that exercise 6 times a week and have 1500 kcal/day, Sound like you are in starvation mode.

 

[Btcowboy]

Exactly lol

because essentially, it was an ECA stack. and I am familiar with "ripped fuel".

 

[Juris93]

hello guys , i was sure to run my first testo-e cycle ( I have studied and read testimonials for years now) but since i joined a telegram community and I've seen other people talk to each other about aas and drugs ... I start to have some doubts as reality seems different from the classic posts in the forums
i have 25 y.o. , i lost 30 kg from 16 to 17y. , I have been training for 7 years and the last 4 seriously.
i saw really really few results also due to excess skin and stubborn fat on the hips, belly,chest and inner thigh.
got abdominoplasty and abdominal diastasis surgey 16 months ago and now i finally start to see good results , i can eat more and my body seems to respond a little better to training ... i am happy of my current results but i have a problem... I am 1.74 tall and weigh 77kg ,if i lose more weigh the accumulations of fat and skin remain, which ruin the result , if i eat more ( i tried clean 2800 kcals ) i gain lot of fat.
so i was thinking to do just 1 cycle of testo-e , with arimidex , pct , hcg ,supplements and everything needed , but my question is, is worth in your opinion make just 1 cycle? can my body not being able to recover? in few words i am just asking if there is a concrete possibility to make permanent damages , even if i do everything in the right way with blood test on hands .
if someone stopped after just 1 or 2 cycles and he is so kind to post his experience I would be very happy ( I read dozens of threads about, but lot of this are outdated )

before surgery 16 months ago 80kg View attachment 90102 , and few weeks ago 78kg View attachment 90105 View attachment 90106
( let you guys image my condition 3 months after surgery , after total rest )
funny things is that now i eat more and workout the same way

sorry , i post my stats in another thread and i've forget many things here ( this is my situation undecided whether to start or not... )
i can reach 76kg pretty easy , but it's like if my body don't want go below this number , i need to enlarge in order to fill my skin , but, like many of you says , is better reduce BF% before

 

[Ironlyfe80]

Eat more, work more and you will get in better shape. Those low calories cause more harm in the long run.