A cry for help - Extreme pip after using test propionate 200mg/ml

[thejumpingsheep]

Thats what i think… i dont think 4 shots of barely 140 mg total test will shut me doen

Our bodies have a feedback pathway. If they detect more T than it needs, it will not produce T. So yea it will shut down if you went over your natural levels.

What you are thinking is it wont shut down for long. This is likely true. A 7 day shut down isnt going to put you "out of business" for lack of better terms. If you stop things should go back to normal rather quickly.

And I am not trying to be insulting, but based on what you have said so far in this thread, you are not ready to do gear yet. You need to read more. Hell you havent even followed the rules of this forum. Where is your intro? If no intro, what are your stats and routines?

 

[SeriosReborn]

Our bodies have a feedback pathway. If they detect more T than it needs, it will not produce T. So yea it will shut down if you went over your natural levels.

What you are thinking is it wont shut down for long. This is likely true. A 7 day shut down isnt going to put you "out of business" for lack of better terms. If you stop things should go back to normal rather quickly.

And I am not trying to be insulting, but based on what you have said so far in this thread, you are not ready to do gear yet. You need to read more. Hell you havent even followed the rules of this forum. Where is your intro? If no intro, what are your stats and routines?

I did lots of research. Its just that nobody really talks about effects of test p 200mg/ml.

My original cycle was supposed to be
Test P 300mg/week (Might titrate up slowly as long as i dont receive too much sides) (I will be pinning ED)
Dut 0.5mg (I dont have hairloss but m gonna take it incase test nukes my skin)
Arimidex 0.25mg (Use only if I notice high e2)
HCG 500IU weekly after week 6
Isotret - 20 mg (I will use ONLY if I notice acne) (Hopefully not)
Eplerenone - 25 mg Daily (Incase I get water retention)
HGH 4IU daily.


Its just that When you search google for test prop 200mg/ml experiences, absolutely nothing shows up.

 

[Photon]

Its just that When you search google for test prop 200mg/ml experiences, absolutely nothing shows up.

Cause it's not commonly sold. Even 100 gives some people pip.

 

[SeriosReborn]

Cause it's not commonly sold. Even 100 gives some people pip.

I hope 100 atleast cuts the pain in half, will be doable for me lol. I am gonna use P and C together and drop P when my C levels are stabilized. Is this a good plan?

 

[Photon]

I hope 100 atleast cuts the pain in half, will be doable for me lol. I am gonna use P and C together and drop P when my C levels are stabilized. Is this a good plan?

Id just drop the P and use C

 

[SeriosReborn]

Id just drop the P and use C

I am going to see if the P 100 causes pip, if yes then i will just drop it

 

[niqTM]

100mg/ml will give pip. I had to cut mine down to 50mg/ml in MCT to make it usable.

 

[Evolve74]

back in the day we used to mix some deca in the shot with it. Seemed to do the trick to stop pain.

 

[SeriosReborn]

100mg/ml will give pip. I had to cut mine down to 50mg/ml in MCT to make it usable.

How bad is the pip? Does it stop mobility? And how is gso for pip?

 

[thejumpingsheep]

I did lots of research. Its just that nobody really talks about effects of test p 200mg/ml.

My original cycle was supposed to be
Test P 300mg/week (Might titrate up slowly as long as i dont receive too much sides) (I will be pinning ED)
Dut 0.5mg (I dont have hairloss but m gonna take it incase test nukes my skin)
Arimidex 0.25mg (Use only if I notice high e2)
HCG 500IU weekly after week 6
Isotret - 20 mg (I will use ONLY if I notice acne) (Hopefully not)
Eplerenone - 25 mg Daily (Incase I get water retention)
HGH 4IU daily.


Its just that When you search google for test prop 200mg/ml experiences, absolutely nothing shows up.

The general internet isnt going give you shit. There are too many imbeciles posting especially on Reddit, FB and others who muddy the water so badly that you cant tell up from down. You need sites like this one and even then you have to always question. There are plenty of accounts on here talking about it but those are not always indexed by the major search engines. Those dont prioritize MesoRx and we dont want them to... this site sits in a sort of grey area itself. I doubt the owners want attention from major search engines.

The info helps. At least now we know you arent a complete dolt.

The correct answer to your issue however was to micro dose. You already did that and you know it works. Just pin more than one site. Problem solved. There is no rule that says you can only pin one site a day. Up dosage SLOWLY from here on. If 0.2mL works, try 0.25mL. See what happens. Keep going up slowly till you get some PIP. This is your mendoza line. For you younger folks this is where "you shall not pass."

Do note that muscles learn to deal with AAS over time. The more you pin them, the less PIP. There are some funny reports by people who go full 1mL straight into virgin quads... its hilarious. Like... wtf did you expect? LoL.

 

[SeriosReborn]

The general internet isnt going give you shit. There are too many imbeciles posting especially on Reddit, FB and others who muddy the water so badly that you cant tell up from down. You need sites like this one and even then you have to always question. There are plenty of accounts on here talking about it but those are not always indexed by the major search engines. Those dont prioritize MesoRx and we dont want them to... this site sits in a sort of grey area itself. I doubt the owners want attention from major search engines.

The info helps. At least now we know you arent a complete dolt.

The correct answer to your issue however was to micro dose. You already did that and you know it works. Just pin more than one site. Problem solved. There is no rule that says you can only pin one site a day. Up dosage SLOWLY from here on. If 0.2mL works, try 0.25mL. See what happens. Keep going up slowly till you get some PIP. This is your mendoza line.

Do note that muscles learn to deal with AAS over time. The more you pin them, the less PIP. There are some funny reports by people who go full 1mL straight into virgin quads... its hilarious. Like... wtf did you expect? LoL.

The issue isn’t with the dose I think, its definitely the high concentration. Majority of people on this forum uses test p 100, those that use test p 200 dilute it with other compounds and nobody uses it straight up isolated. I thought test p 200 would be same concentration as test e 200 or test c 200, i guess i was wrong and learnt the hard way. Lets hope the test p 100 works out for me, if it doesnt, i will just dilute it with test c 250

 

[thejumpingsheep]

The issue isn’t with the dose I think, its definitely the high concentration. Majority of people on this forum uses test p 100, those that use test p 200 dilute it with other compounds and nobody uses it straight up isolated. I thought test p 200 would be same concentration as test e 200 or test c 200, i guess i was wrong and learnt the hard way. Lets hope the test p 100 works out for me, if it doesnt, i will just dilute it with test c 250

Concentration definitely matter, but you already know that 0.2mL of this concentration works according to your opening post. In other words, your body can tolerate it at that volume. This is actually good information. Use it.

I personally would rather pin 0.5mL of higher concentration than 1mL of lower concentration especially if my body tolerates it the same.

 

[niqTM]

The issue isn’t with the dose I think, its definitely the high concentration. Majority of people on this forum uses test p 100, those that use test p 200 dilute it with other compounds and nobody uses it straight up isolated. I thought test p 200 would be same concentration as test e 200 or test c 200, i guess i was wrong and learnt the hard way. Lets hope the test p 100 works out for me, if it doesnt, i will just dilute it with test c 250

Correct. You can get MCT oil, Some BA, BB, big 50ml vial and mix all of it together in there. I can give you the recipe if you want to do it that way. It is the best way to make it usable IMO. You don't want to waste it.

Now, mixing it with cyp may help too but not at 200mg/ml. You still need to cut it down.

 

[SeriosReborn]

Concentration definitely matter, but you already know that 0.2mL of this concentration works according to your opening post. In other words, your body can tolerate it at that volume. This is actually good information. Use it.

I personally would rather pin 0.5mL of higher concentration than 1mL of lower concentration especially if my body tolerates it the same.

Would have kept using it but the pain is immense, it feels like i have been stabbed and only ibuprofen helps. I also had a high temp for few days that has subsidized. I still cant move my delt and its the 5th day currently

 

[SeriosReborn]

Correct. You can get MCT oil, Some BA, BB, big 50ml vial and mix all of it together in there. I can give you the recipe if you want to do it that way. It is the best way to make it usable IMO. You don't want to waste it.

Now, mixing it with cyp may help too but not at 200mg/ml. You still need to cut it down.

Haha i am a complete newbie and i just stopped cold turkey. I need to get new vials asap to get my test back on track.

I am gonna mix the cyp with 100mg/ml prop, not the 200mg/ml. But first i will try prop alone, if no pip, then great. If yes pip, then i will cut it with test cyp

 

[niqTM]

Concentration definitely matter, but you already know that 0.2mL of this concentration works according to your opening post. In other words, your body can tolerate it at that volume. This is actually good information. Use it.

I personally would rather pin 0.5mL of higher concentration than 1mL of lower concentration especially if my body tolerates it the same.

For daily injections, I like to pin more volume, less concentration to get it more accurate. It is harder to get 10units @ 250mg accurate than 50ml @ 50mg/ml. Each to their own.

 

[SeriosReborn]

For daily injections, I like to pin more volume, less concentration to get it more accurate. It is harder to get 10units @ 250mg accurate than 50ml @ 50mg/ml. Each to their own.

I hear more volume helps the body absorb the hormone more efficiently.. higher concentrations usually get their oil absorbed quicker, what remains is the painful hormone

 

[rxzed]

My question is, i stopped using the test p 200mg/ml yday on my 4th pin, do you think my natural test production has shut down and I will feel like shit till the new stuff arrives? Or am i okay?

No, you are fine. It's common to continue producing endogenous test for months after your first injection.

 

[juicebro]

Not to wisest compound choice. Reminds me when I thought I was really smart for going with 400mg/ml test.

No, you are fine. It's common to continue producing endogenous test for months after your first injection.

Not true. Shutdown happens within days, even after the first injection. He might bounce back fast though.

 

[rxzed]

Would have kept using it but the pain is immense, it feels like i have been stabbed and only ibuprofen helps. I also had a high temp for few days that has subsidized. I still cant move my delt and its the 5th day currently

I find lower body injections are way more tolerable even when you get PIP. Lats, lateral delts, rear delts all gave me insane PIP despite low concentration. Just because delts are common to inject doesn't mean YOU have to.