xrayphoton13
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TIL. I had no idea he had the surgery
MESO-Rx
Anabolic Steroids
3g of Test-E only for 30 weeks - Less sides, less health risks, and highly anabolic. Worth it?
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Slowww
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Growing “pretty well” on 5g gear sounds like a pretty bad return lol
phenominal34
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Bump !!! @DugPrime
Biggerp73
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I’ve tried insane amounts of gear for long periods of time and there is a point not only of diminishing return but actual counter productivity. I’m not saying you can get to your full potential running a gram, but once you reach 3 grams, your getting into a territory where side effects can overwhelm positive effects and you might get better results (not just feel better) using less. If you want better results you’ll need to add in GH, maybe a little insulin, but most importantly is food. If you are using up to 3 grams of gear (honestly you don’t need that much), then you have better be a massive mofo, approaching 300lbs depending on your height, but to get to that size you need not only run a lot of gear, you need absolutely massive amounts of protein and calories.
just some dude
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the toxins in the gear and the excessive androgen levels would deplete your collagen far more than any “increase” in it, even with optimal hgh levels and “clean” gear thats 2/3 issues solved not 3/3
DugPrime
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I mush be 102kg/15% bf at the moment (182cm)
It's side-effect free for me (30mg a day), excluding that my lips are dry as fuck. Aquaphor help a lot tho, but the caffeine, and smoking CBD day long doesn't help much.
I'm very hurry to hit the cumulative dosage (aprox 1 year remaining) so I can go to a low maintenance dose of 10mg twice a week.
just some dude
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literally just blocking your body from expunging toxins out and at the same time feeding it more toxins
you’re not missing out on anything but vanity, brother
DugPrime
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My whole forehead, my traps, my shoulders, my back, my pecs, I had acne everywhere, it was terrible for me, accutane completely removed them all. It's a magic drug.
DugPrime
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You're right. I think that one should find his highest tolerable dosage of of test per KG of LBM, and go from there, ramping up slowly years by years.
eery
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How does androgens deplete collagen? what does this mean?
just some dude
Member
androgenic activity lowers production, and raises breakdown of collagen. anabolic activity raises production of it
DugPrime
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It doesn't seem to be a problem for anyone. Peoples are running HGH, GHK-CU and seems to be very happy with their hairs, skins nails and joints.
So the studies showing collagen deposition by compound are bogus and it’s all about the “toxins”?
knucklesamich
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I've heard, so don't take it for gospel, but I've heard if you run it for a few months at a relatively high dose. It'll clear things up, and decrease the chance of it coming back by ~50%. Then wait a bit, a few months and if it starts coming back, do it again for 2 months, it then decreases the chance by another ~50%, so on and so forth. Something about it reducing the size of the sebaceous glands. At some point they'll become so small, you won't have acne anymore. Stuff's pretty hard on the liver, take some TUDCA
DugPrime
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In fact, you have to hit a cumulative dose of 135mg/kg (13.5g for a 100kg man), and then maintain a low dose maintenance for the rest of your life.I've heard, so don't take it for gospel, but I've heard if you run it for a few months at a relatively high dose. It'll clear things up, and decrease the chance of it coming back by ~50%. Then wait a bit, a few months and if it starts coming back, do it again for 2 months, it then decreases the chance by another ~50%, so on and so forth. Something about it reducing the size of the sebaceous glands. At some point they'll become so small, you won't have acne anymore. Stuff's pretty hard on the liver, take some TUDCA
For me, it means that my cumulative dose is attained after 450 days at 30mg, then I should take around 5-10mg twice a week.
