supralevels
New Member
Yeah it seems when a source has a bad batch. The other ones have it also. Coincidence
MESO-Rx
Anabolic Steroids
Astro Labs US Dom and Intl SRC
- Thread starter Astro Labs
- Start date
Yeah it seems when a source has a bad batch. The other ones have it also. Coincidence
BIGMESC
New Member
Flenser - did labmax comment on the concentration levels in the PEP or Bio samples?
Seems to me what has been uncovered is that all raw suppliers are sketchy! Hopefully with all of Flenser ' s hard work and the others that have been testing it has been made clear to these UGL ' S that they need to test their raws everytime and that we all need to be testing our products we receive. Never thought about testing before but I will be getting a kit. Thanks for all the hard work guys and for opening my eyes!!
BIGMESC
New Member
No, but I have run BIO's mast e ew at first, then later eod when I became suspicious. It is close to standard mast p 100mg/ml IMO.
dper726
Member
The only real solution to all this is having these labs testing they're gear before processing they're batches and being allowed to sell on these boards. They would have to confirm they're testing through similar means as the labmax thread. Would have to change the rules of these boards to aim in this direction , but would nonetheless create something different and very valuable never seen on other boards.
dper726
Member
On another note, astro left you pms for orders looking to switch out to your gear and run lab testing to check it's potency with the community
Astro Labs
Active Member
Yes I seen these results for the Mast E and I know I sent Flesner what I believed to be Mast P instead of mast E due to lables being so similar. I made this error public in this thread about 3 months back and it only happend to 2 people and surly wont happen again and if that's the case then my suspicion has been confirmed
I will pull my Mast E until I get further testing but I know that the lab max tests have shown Mast e to look like Deca even when mass spec shows it to be mast p? This is concerning to me and may defInitely be a flaw then again I may be wrong but why would it show up as deca when it was mast? I will brew another fresh batch and even next day mail it to someone if the have a lab max now. TODAY!! ASAP CONTACT ME.
I will replace anyone's Mast E as long as proof is shown. And please dont lie I have a very good idea of who bought what. I will get to the bottom of this I assure everyone.
I will try and contact the guys who previously ran mass specs for me son I van get a Mass Spec ran on my Mast E.
I will pull my Mast E until I get further testing but I know that the lab max tests have shown Mast e to look like Deca even when mass spec shows it to be mast p? This is concerning to me and may defInitely be a flaw then again I may be wrong but why would it show up as deca when it was mast? I will brew another fresh batch and even next day mail it to someone if the have a lab max now. TODAY!! ASAP CONTACT ME.
I will replace anyone's Mast E as long as proof is shown. And please dont lie I have a very good idea of who bought what. I will get to the bottom of this I assure everyone.
I will try and contact the guys who previously ran mass specs for me son I van get a Mass Spec ran on my Mast E.
Last edited:
supralevels
New Member
Professional as fuck!
It's one of the limitations of labmax tests. Unless you know what you are looking for, it's easy to get it wrong. I didn't look for the "initial color" in the a-vial that last only a few seconds with mast p. I plan on testing Pep's mast e again to make sure.
Remember that you replaced my mislabeled mast e with what you believed was legit mast e. That is what I tested, posted pics, and sent a sample of to labmax for GC/MS testing.
If you think you have good mast e raws, send them to labmax for testing.
Astro Labs
Active Member
Also I will post Mast raws compared to Deca raws. it's very easy to distinguish the difference between the two of them which Haydn's my suspicions that lab max tests are showing false positives for deca when its in fact Mast.
I just want to getto the bottom of this without stirring up Drama. So before every one says I'm being hard headed or ignorant thats far from the truth. And my evidence is that Lab max test showed Mast to look like Deca that's a fact.
I have Mast E raws and Mast P raws so whoever has a kit in would like to run further testing to add to my theory.
I will notify everyone if I can get Mass spec test in done. Bare with me.
Aside from that nothings changed. I encourage guys to test my products. I will remain professional at all times and I WILL GET TO THE BOTTOM OF THE MAST ISSUE.
I just want to getto the bottom of this without stirring up Drama. So before every one says I'm being hard headed or ignorant thats far from the truth. And my evidence is that Lab max test showed Mast to look like Deca that's a fact.
I have Mast E raws and Mast P raws so whoever has a kit in would like to run further testing to add to my theory.
I will notify everyone if I can get Mass spec test in done. Bare with me.
Aside from that nothings changed. I encourage guys to test my products. I will remain professional at all times and I WILL GET TO THE BOTTOM OF THE MAST ISSUE.
Raider72
New Member
So if you have astro mast e you can't, with a right mind, pin?? Another scammer??
Astro, are you even reading what I write?
Raider72
New Member
So hold off on pinning Mast E from Astro ?? Geez wtf ??
Throwing the word scammer around isn't cool. Not defending him but defending you using that word for a source with 1 bad test that if you read is trying to make it right. Not cool.
Exactly. Not saying it's a scam at all. I just heard some things about the Mast E and I wanted to clarify with the test. We just need to have the Mast E tested- I can do it if someone can point me to where to test it. I don't mind spending the money to authenticate gear. Money isn't the issue for me, legit gear is.
Spyder
New Member
No - the lab needs legit mast e first to create the test. The samples sent where tested (GC/MS) and came back as mast p (Astro's a mix of things).
So, Astro's raw "mast e" source likely isn't giving him mast e, it seems?
Spyder
New Member
It is not mast e.
Similar threads
