Can You Pass The Israel Ultra-Orthodox Quiz?

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Can You Pass The Israel Ultra-Orthodox Quiz? By Jeffrey Rudolph

6. Why is English not taught at ultra-Orthodox schools?

Israel invests significant amounts of money in the independent educational systems run by ultra-Orthodox political parties, however, “the boys who study there will never learn math, English, geography or civics. This is so they will never be able to earn a decent living and emerge from under the rabbis' thumbs. Only a suicidal state would agree to have a large and growing sector live off allowances and grants, without learning core subjects, serving in the military or making a living.”

Haaretz.Com

According to an ultra-Orthodox principal, “The moment a boy studies English, he's more exposed to the wider world, and he naturally leaves religion, and he can even engage in intermarriage, like in America.” (Gorenberg 2011, 187.)

7. What percentage of ultra-Orthodox Israeli men aged thirty-five to fifty-four (prime working years) were not employed in 1979? 2008?

1979: 20 percent; 2008: 65 percent. (Gorenberg 2011, 177, 178.)
Young ultra-Orthodox Israelis are becoming the world's poorest Jewish population due to their employment prospects, declining financial support from parents, declining welfare allowances from the state, and their high number of children. http://jppi.org.il/news/127/58/The-Haredi-Challenge/

Young ultra-Orthodox couples, normally poor with plans for large families, “are desperate for inexpensive apartments….At the end of the 1980s, the government began using that [desperation to draw them] into the settlement enterprise.” In 1990, 350 ultra-Orthodox settlers moved into Beitar Illit and for apartments paid “$60,000, with the government providing a $50,000 interest-free mortgage. Four years later, the first residents arrived in what would become the town of Modi'in Illit, east of Tel Aviv. The two communities grew faster than any other settlements in the West Bank. By the end of 2009, they were also the two largest settlements, with a total of 81,000 residents…Virtually every extended [ultra-Orthodox] family in Israel now has members living” in occupied Palestinian territory. Therefore, they have “a vested interest in the territories” and have been converted to the extreme right by government action. (Gorenberg 2011, 185.)

15. Which country is the world's only democracy where Jews do not enjoy religious freedom?

The Chief Rabbinate makes Israel the world's only democracy where Jews do not enjoy religious freedom. The Rabbinate has opposed any official recognition by Israel of non-Orthodox/ultra-Orthodox Judaism. (Reform and Conservative movements, which are dominant in the US Jewish community, have a limited presence in Israel.) Abolish Israel’s Chief Rabbinate - Rabbis' Round Table - Israel News | Haaretz Daily Newspaper

“Every ten years, two rabbis -- one representing Ashkenazi, or European-descended Jews, the other of Sephardic, or Middle Eastern lineage -- are appointed to co-lead the chief rabbinate. It's the country's supreme body overseeing civil services for Jews from cradle to grave -- circumcision, [conversion,] marriage, divorce and burial….For the past two decades, ultra-Orthodox Jewish political parties have wielded outsized influence in governing coalitions and, in turn, held sway over the panel of 150 rabbis and politicians that appoints the new chief rabbis.” (Montreal Gazette, Feb. 14, 2013, A17.)

19. According to Rabbi Ovadia Yosef -- a former Chief Rabbi of Israel and a recognised scholar on Jewish law -- can a religious Jewish doctor break Sabbath rules to save the life of a non-Jew?

No. Rabbi Yosef: Treating gentiles violates Sabbath - Israel Jewish Scene, Ynetnews

In 2005, Rabbi Yosef had this to say concerning Hurricane Katrina: “There was a tsunami and there are terrible natural disasters, because there isn't enough Torah study…black people reside there (in New Orleans). Blacks will study the Torah? (God said) let's bring a tsunami and drown them.” Israel's secrect Iran meeting between security officials and Rabbi who wants to 'annihilate' Arabs

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So now that we have determined you are an anti-semite bigot, care to expound on the stupidity of some of the saying of Imams or, like most liberals, are you prepared to bow down like the half-wit slave that you are?

Or how about the climate change idiots whose arguments are coming apart at the seams. Their real agenda is to not to save the planet but to take us back to the stone age by demonizing fossil fuels using non-existent global warming as an excuse and in the process impacting the lives of 100s of millions of people - for the worse.

What in hell would make you post something like this? Cherry picking a few words to deride an entire religion is beyond the pale. But at least I know you for what you are now.

Waste of space and air.
 
I`ve said it befor and will say it just once more: The moderators deserve respect.
Calling Cvic a half-wit slave is intollerable. He has made great contributions to Meso. Please choose your words more carefully in the future.


So now that we have determined you are an anti-semite bigot, care to expound on the stupidity of some of the saying of Imams or, like most liberals, are you prepared to bow down like the half-wit slave that you are?

Or how about the climate change idiots whose arguments are coming apart at the seams. Their real agenda is to not to save the planet but to take us back to the stone age by demonizing fossil fuels using non-existent global warming as an excuse and in the process impacting the lives of 100s of millions of people - for the worse.

What in hell would make you post something like this? Cherry picking a few words to deride an entire religion is beyond the pale. But at least I know you for what you are now.

Waste of space and air.
 
So now that we have determined you are an anti-semite bigot, care to expound on the stupidity of some of the saying of Imams or, like most liberals, are you prepared to bow down like the half-wit slave that you are?

Or how about the climate change idiots whose arguments are coming apart at the seams. Their real agenda is to not to save the planet but to take us back to the stone age by demonizing fossil fuels using non-existent global warming as an excuse and in the process impacting the lives of 100s of millions of people - for the worse.

What in hell would make you post something like this? Cherry picking a few words to deride an entire religion is beyond the pale. But at least I know you for what you are now.

Waste of space and air.

That's what replying to you would be.
 
I`ve said it befor and will say it just once more: The moderators deserve respect.
Calling Cvic a half-wit slave is intollerable. He has made great contributions to Meso. Please choose your words more carefully in the future.

So what you are saying is that posting anti-semite material is acceptable because he is a moderator and contributor!? Really? Your serious? In my world a rant of any kind that is bigoted for any reason removes respect from that person regardless of contribution. Now should he wish to apologize or remove the post then fine. Until then I will state my case and call it like I see them. If you are scared of the truth and wish to shut me up, you can do what all liberals do and attempt to silence me. However, I can assure you that won't happen, seeing as every single blog I have ever created has had more traffic that you can imagine and if you want to stir up a hornets nest by all means do so. You will still hear from me. I am sure the owner of the site won't be pleased with the anti-Semitic content from one of his moderators.

So I guess if cvictor decides he wants to post some bigoted material about African Americans then we should all sit back and just respect that huh? Because he is a great contributor and all.

Give me a break. You want my respect, you earn it, and you don't earn it by doing what he did. Believe me, I held back in my response and I won't let you scare me into some kind of submission. You don't have that power and if you think you do, give a try and see where it gets you. And this is a promise pal, not a threat.

I will NEVER tolerate bigots. NEVER.
 
So what you are saying is that posting anti-semite material is acceptable because he is a moderator and contributor!? Really? Your serious? In my world a rant of any kind that is bigoted for any reason removes respect from that person regardless of contribution. Now should he wish to apologize or remove the post then fine. Until then I will state my case and call it like I see them. If you are scared of the truth and wish to shut me up, you can do what all liberals do and attempt to silence me. However, I can assure you that won't happen, seeing as every single blog I have ever created has had more traffic that you can imagine and if you want to stir up a hornets nest by all means do so. You will still hear from me. I am sure the owner of the site won't be pleased with the anti-Semitic content from one of his moderators.

So I guess if cvictor decides he wants to post some bigoted material about African Americans then we should all sit back and just respect that huh? Because he is a great contributor and all.

Give me a break. You want my respect, you earn it, and you don't earn it by doing what he did. Believe me, I held back in my response and I won't let you scare me into some kind of submission. You don't have that power and if you think you do, give a try and see where it gets you. And this is a promise pal, not a threat.

I will NEVER tolerate bigots. NEVER.

1) Is anything in the link that I posted false? If yes show me proof.
2) This forum believes in free speech - whether you like it or not.
3) You seem to have a lot of anger with regard to "liberals" who are attempting to silence you.

4) So go ahead and post whatever you want to and the community will judge it on it's merits ESPECIALLY your global warming denial and Obamacare posts - we need a good laugh here
 
1) Is anything in the link that I posted false? If yes show me proof.
2) This forum believes in free speech - whether you like it or not.
3) You seem to have a lot of anger with regard to "liberals" who are attempting to silence you.

4) So go ahead and post whatever you want to and the community will judge it on it's merits ESPECIALLY your global warming denial and Obamacare posts - we need a good laugh here

In case you have not been following anything lately in the news...Obamacare is taking friendly fire and AGW is in serous trouble. I will leave it to Google to teach you. If you laugh at the stories about how your side is losing the battle and turning on ObamaCare, then you are laughing at yourself. Of course, you are completely free to do so.

As far as your Anti-Semitism, it is not for me to say whether what you posted is right or not. It IS interesting that you post about Judaism and not Islam. The fact you do so outs you as a bigot. So it is on your shoulders to prove me wrong. The issue here is not the facts of the story, it is the story itself. Get that through your head.
 
In case you have not been following anything lately in the news...Obamacare is taking friendly fire and AGW is in serous trouble. I will leave it to Google to teach you. If you laugh at the stories about how your side is losing the battle and turning on ObamaCare, then you are laughing at yourself. Of course, you are completely free to do so.

As far as your Anti-Semitism, it is not for me to say whether what you posted is right or not. It IS interesting that you post about Judaism and not Islam. The fact you do so outs you as a bigot. So it is on your shoulders to prove me wrong. The issue here is not the facts of the story, it is the story itself. Get that through your head.

SO - facts do not matter - how interesting
 
SO - facts do not matter - how interesting

Man, you truly define the word dense.

Facts do not matter in the context of what I am saying - your are an anti-Semite. You did not post anything about Islam, or Christianity. So let me translate this for a tiny intellect: it is not the facts that are under question here. Whether they are true or not makes not difference to the argument that you decided to post an anti-Semitic post.

Figure it out yet or do you still need me to hold your hand?
 
Man, you truly define the word dense.

Facts do not matter in the context of what I am saying - your are an anti-Semite. You did not post anything about Islam, or Christianity. So let me translate this for a tiny intellect: it is not the facts that are under question here. Whether they are true or not makes not difference to the argument that you decided to post an anti-Semitic post.

Figure it out yet or do you still need me to hold your hand?

Amazing - that's makes me a Jewish anti-Semite - does that mean I hate myself??:D[:o)]
 
Man, you truly define the word dense.

Facts do not matter in the context of what I am saying - your are an anti-Semite. You did not post anything about Islam, or Christianity. So let me translate this for a tiny intellect: it is not the facts that are under question here. Whether they are true or not makes not difference to the argument that you decided to post an anti-Semitic post.

Figure it out yet or do you still need me to hold your hand?

How can it be anti semitic if what he posted is the truth?
 
So ALL ultra-orthodox Jews think the same? That's called stereotyping. Pay attention to the title of the post. Get it? Got it? Good.

No, I still don't get it.

You never said he was lying, but you are calling him an anti semite for posting it.

makes no sense at all, it just kinda looks like he exposed a truth that you don't like or want to deal with?
 
No, I still don't get it.

You never said he was lying, but you are calling him an anti semite for posting it.

makes no sense at all, it just kinda looks like he exposed a truth that you don't like or want to deal with?

Okay, let me make it simple. stereotype. Again, look it up. Google, dictionary.com and just picture any stereotypical post that one could write and that has truths in it.

Try this experiment: Go on some liberal website like Huffington Post. Put a "Can you pass an African American Ultra-Orthodox Quiz?" post up there and put in facts about, say, Reverend Jeremiah Wright, or the black panthers, or Louis Farrakhan.

Tell me with a straight face that you would not be outright attacked as a bigot and a racist even though everything you write is truth. Heck, there are conservative sites that would ban you. Go ahead, sign up for a Redstate account. Everyone is allowed to write their own diary. So try the experiment and tell me just how far you get. It should only take you about a couple of hours, so try it on Redstate and get back with me. I dare you.

Understand it yet? I can't explain it any easier so the only thing left is to let you try it and figure it out for yourself.
 
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