Proper formula and what to mix first oil or BA any tips?

[shamrockbear1]

So I found two recipes for home brew here is the dosages can anyone verify this is correct? Also both recipes differ which to mix first, one states heat oil first and mix powder then add ba and bb. Second one states heat ba and bb then add powder then add heated oil? Also would you do 100 ml at a time or more?
Any suggestions or tips ? Oh yes I'm brewing test. Cyp.


Test Eth, Test Cyp, Deca.
100mL@250mg/mL
Oil = 61.25mL
Powder = 25g
Benzyl Alcohol = 2mL (2%)
Benzyl Benzoate = 18mL (18%)

 

[trenseter]

So I found two recipes for home brew here is the dosages can anyone verify this is correct? Also both recipes differ which to mix first, one states heat oil first and mix powder then add ba and bb. Second one states heat ba and bb then add powder then add heated oil? Also would you do 100 ml at a time or more?
Any suggestions or tips ? Oh yes I'm brewing test. Cyp.


Test Eth, Test Cyp, Deca.
100mL@250mg/mL
Oil = 61.25mL
Powder = 25g
Benzyl Alcohol = 2mL (2%)
Benzyl Benzoate = 18mL (18%)

did you ever make this? if not... you heat the ba,bb first then add powder and heat untill desolved then add heated oil,continue to heat untill fully disolved then let cool a bit and filter while still warm,makes filtering easier. good luck bro!

 

[thrombus]

did you ever make this? if not... you heat the ba,bb first then add powder and heat untill desolved then add heated oil,continue to heat untill fully disolved then let cool a bit and filter while still warm,makes filtering easier. good luck bro!

In using this method, since the powder is ideally fully dissolved before adding the oil, what purpose does the oil serve?

 

[MythotiK]

How else would you get it into your system??

 

[Jimmyinkedup]

How else would you get it into your system??

Exactly. Its a carrier - thats all.

 

[shamrockbear1]

Now i finally made my own and it went smooth only problem is the total volume went up by 12.5ml diluting it to 218mg per cc not sure why the volume went up but was easy as making cookies actually the stupid Whatman filters is what to the longest took forever....

 

[thrombus]

So, could bac water be used as the carrier instead of oil?


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[shamrockbear1]

I don't think so as the oil is what dilutes the product and helps to extend the release I think water would be not good and hurt? Couldn't control the release very inefficient way to keep blood levels even...

 

[MANWHORE]

No, the Oil is the thing that is used, not Bac water..
Water was used, for some older Pharm gear,
but UGLs use Oil for that now, too.
Oil is better

Anyway, I used to add everything together,
then heat all on stove.. never had problems..

First times I baked, in oven, until
I learned of easier way, on stove in pot, of water.

You will want to let cool some,
before filtering it.

22 or 45 filter?

 

[Jimmyinkedup]

Dont worry about displacement .
Easy version. 2% ba , 18% bb.
Take a beaker or media bottle and accurately measure 100ml (you need to check cause often beakers or media bottles are not accurately labeled.). Mark at the 100 ml level with a perm marker on outside of media bottle or beaker. Sterilize beaker or media bottle. Put in 2ml BA , 18ml BB. Add 25g of powder. Dissolve in a warm water bath. Make sure it completely dissolves. Add oil to 100ml line and return to warm water bath. Allow to heat up and swirl to mix completely. Filter while still warm (140 F ). Use a .2 or.22 filter. That is what is required for sterilization. Allow to cool before filling vials.

This method is so much easier than using calculated displacements.
Note allow gear to sit for 7 days if possible before use. This will allow BA to help to kill of any existing bacteria that may have been introduced via contamination.

 

[Dr JIM]

Nice discussion Jimmy!

 

[Jimmyinkedup]

Nice discussion Jimmy!

Thanks Dr Jim!

 

[ChaseQ]

did you ever make this? if not... you heat the ba,bb first then add powder and heat untill desolved then add heated oil,continue to heat untill fully disolved then let cool a bit and filter while still warm,makes filtering easier. good luck bro!

Im wondering if heating the BA/BB and raw without the oil might cause evaporation of the BA and throw off your end product?

Is the only concern with throwing everything in together including the oil then heating to dissolve raw the concern you might not get it completely dissolved?

Also wondering it there is a target temp you want your solution before filtering?

Does anyone take temp readings during this process or just apply enough heat to dissolve compounds and thats it?

 

[tns]

i did with my new cooking thermometer.
i put ba and bb in 1st. added the oil and then threw all my powder.
as it was i placed the beaker inside a swallow pot filled with water and turn the heat on. i let the temp rise to almost 50 Celcius. took about 10-15minutes to completely dissolve. the thing is you dont want the mix to start boiling or even close to that.(at least from what i read)

im gonna pin my 1st homebrew on friday and let you know if it was a hit

 

[mr.nitro]

I use 2% ba and 20% bb for everything.