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Perry: Slow on His Feet
http://www.frumforum.com/perry-slow-on-his-feet

We learn things from these debates, and one of them is: how does a candidate respond under pressure? What we’ve seen from Perry in two debates is (1) he gets testy and (2) he makes stupid mistakes.

Perry was supposed to carry the message: “I will save our cherished national institution, Social Security.”

Romney pushed him to substitute the message: “I will save this unconstitutional program I hate.” Good luck with that.

It was not only Romney who outmaneuvered Perry. Michele Bachmann(!) pushed Perry to his funniest blooper of the night: his angry insistence that he cannot be bought for $5,000. That’s one of those denials that opens the way to more embarrassing questions: “How about $10,000?”

As a candidate, Perry’s unnimble mental reflexes are a merely personal handicap. Should Perry reach the presidency, his lack of intellectual resource will have consequences for the nation.
 
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CNN/ORC has Perry maintaining with higher electability.

Sandoval and Jindal endorse Perry - huge wins, especially with Sandoval's machine now behind Perry.

PJM really hits the Gardasil issue and Bachmann (see last link in story) - exposing her lies and junk science about Gardasil causing mental retardation: http://pajamasmedia.com/tatler/2011/09/13/the-stupidity-of-the-hpv-controversy/

Poll shows 'gaping divide' between Democrats and 'switchers' – USATODAY.com

Redstate exposes more on Bachmann: Bachmann Stayed Quiet on Mandatory Vaccinations While Serving Minnesota | RedState

Bloomberg poll puts Obama re-elect number at … 29% Hot Air

Heh.

\Obama actually created 2 jobs yesterday...Republican Mark Amodei seat and Republican Bob Turners seat.....Thanks Obama

Obama Approval Plummets to New Low Among Americans Skeptical of Jobs Plan - Bloomberg

Obama gets desperate with new snitch site: Get the facts. Fight the smears. — AttackWatch.com | Report an Attack

Hill Dems pick apart Obama jobs plan - POLITICO.com Print View

I think the Dems are seeing NY and NJ in their rearview mirrors as they read Obama's polls. His jobs bill is DOA, the NYT even calls it the "tax hikes job bill". West Wing libs are beginning to abandon Obama particularly over the Solyndra affair:

The FBI have confiscated all the emails from the Solyndra's solar energy project, which was funded by Obama.. Nice to see you getting nailed Obama, now all we need is for them to do the same with fast and furious , I would love to see Obama wear some black and white.

The emails are very damning. This presidency is falling apart at the seams.

Game over.

PPP poll released shows social security is hurting Rick Perry, but CNN/ORC says not so fast. PPP oversampled (as usual) and will pull in closer to elections to save their reputation.

Intrade has Perry ahead with 36.4 to Romney's 36.3 - a dead heat. However RomneyCare will bring him down as he won't be able to debate Obama on the merits of ObamaCare, leaving in place a system that will cost trillions and forever change the face of America forever. Both men state they will kill ObamaCare by having HHS secretary provide waivers for all (which would kill it despite Bachmann's claims), and Rick is willing to go rather and use executive orders to remove other portions.

Bottom line: Obama would lose to my dog right now. It will either Perry/Cain or Perry/Rubio on the GOP ticket and a landslide victory Carter style with the Senate back in GOP hands, unless the Democratic party abandons Obama and leaves him hanging as a lame duck, passing a real jobs bill and over-riding any veto.

So bye, bye Obama. His days are over. EPA will be reduced to such a small size that AGW and cap-and-trade and dead for good. Growth will come back as tax cuts on corporations, small businesses, individuals, and the removal of regulations open up the free market. ObamaCare is dead and coupled with the EPA thumping and freeing up the market we will see the immediate benefit of trillions of dollars back into the economy with predictability in the market place leading to more hiring and an economic explosion.

It is a good day.
 
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CNN/ORC has Perry maintaining with higher electability.

Sandoval and Jindal endorse Perry - huge wins, especially with Sandoval's machine now behind Perry.

PJM really hits the Gardasil issue and Bachmann (see last link in story) - exposing her lies and junk science about Gardasil causing mental retardation: http://pajamasmedia.com/tatler/2011/09/13/the-stupidity-of-the-hpv-controversy/

Poll shows 'gaping divide' between Democrats and 'switchers' – USATODAY.com

Redstate exposes more on Bachmann: Bachmann Stayed Quiet on Mandatory Vaccinations While Serving Minnesota | RedState

Bloomberg poll puts Obama re-elect number at … 29% ? Hot Air

Heh.

\Obama actually created 2 jobs yesterday...Republican Mark Amodei seat and Republican Bob Turners seat.....Thanks Obama

Obama Approval Plummets to New Low Among Americans Skeptical of Jobs Plan - Bloomberg

Obama gets desperate with new snitch site: Get the facts. Fight the smears. — AttackWatch.com | Report an Attack

Hill Dems pick apart Obama jobs plan - POLITICO.com Print View

I think the Dems are seeing NY and NJ in their rearview mirrors as they read Obama's polls. His jobs bill is DOA, the NYT even calls it the "tax hikes job bill". West Wing libs are beginning to abandon Obama particularly over the Solyndra affair:

The FBI have confiscated all the emails from the Solyndra's solar energy project, which was funded by Obama.. Nice to see you getting nailed Obama, now all we need is for them to do the same with fast and furious , I would love to see Obama wear some black and white.

The emails are very damning. This presidency is falling apart at the seams.

Game over.

PPP poll released shows social security is hurting Rick Perry, but CNN/ORC says not so fast. PPP oversampled (as usual) and will pull in closer to elections to save their reputation.

Intrade has Perry ahead with 36.4 to Romney's 36.3 - a dead heat. However RomneyCare will bring him down as he won't be able to debate Obama on the merits of ObamaCare, leaving in place a system that will cost trillions and forever change the face of America forever. Both men state they will kill ObamaCare by having HHS secretary provide waivers for all (which would kill it despite Bachmann's claims), and Rick is willing to go rather and use executive orders to remove other portions.

Bottom line: Obama would lose to my dog right now. It will either Perry/Cain or Perry/Rubio on the GOP ticket and a landslide victory Carter style with the Senate back in GOP hands, unless the Democratic party abandons Obama and leaves him hanging as a lame duck, passing a real jobs bill and over-riding any veto.

So bye, bye Obama. His days are over. EPA will be reduced to such a small size that AGW and cap-and-trade and dead for good. Growth will come back as tax cuts on corporations, small businesses, individuals, and the removal of regulations open up the free market. ObamaCare is dead and coupled with the EPA thumping and freeing up the market we will see the immediate benefit of trillions of dollars back into the economy with predictability in the market place leading to more hiring and an economic explosion.

It is a good day.

Wow, so PPP has Perry up after the second debate - and they are a DEM firm known to skew samples until the races come close to elections: RealClearPolitics - Latest Polls

Perry looks like he survived the second debate.

And the latest news about Gardasil and Perry's 30,000 donation from them? Rebutted! When compared to 30 million you are talking about .00001%. Much ado about nothing. With Obama collapsing before our very eyes, say hello to your next President: Rick Perry.
 
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Edit: .1% on previous post. Still much ado about nothing. It won't go anywhere. His only Achilles heal is immigration and he can easily address that.
 
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Attack Watch, new Obama campaign site to ‘fight smears,’ becomes laughing stock - BlogPost - The Washington Post

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Obama: 'If you love me, you've got to help me pass this bill' - The Hill's Blog Briefing Room

[:o)][:o)]

I have two new Obama songs:

"I'm just too good to be true....I'm so much better than you...I'm just like heaven above...That's why you love me so much...Oh you know that it's true...So quit acting so blue...You know I love myself too...Cause I'm so much better than you."

"I'm in the mood for love...Simply because I'm near me...If only you would revere me...We'll all be in the mood for love"

Obambi is having a really bad day.
 
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Perry needs to be the nominee!

Perry has to get the ethics issue off the deck
Perry has to get the ethics issue off the deck - Right Turn - The Washington Post

By Jennifer Rubin


My colleague Marc Thiessen doesn’t like the source of much of the data on Texas Gov. Rick Perry’s system of patronage. He claims that Texans for Public Justice is a “secretive, left-wing, Soros-funded organization,”and their reports should be ignored.

There are three problems with this. A great deal of the data has been reported elsewhere. The Post and Texas papers, as well as other publications, have confirmed the system of pay-to-play that keeps Perry’s big donors very happy. The facts are the facts, no matter what the motives of those compiling them. Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchnson (R-Tex.) also raised the issue in the 2010 campaign. In Texas Perry’s activities may have passed muster, but now he’s got to justify this conduct to a national electorate.

Second, Perry’s handlers have only said that he appoints people on the basis of merit. That’s it. Voters will have to judge, given the huge number of appointees and the correlation with big donations, if this is believable.

And finally, arguing that the same group investigated President George W. Bush is a non sequitor. A I noted in the report, TPJ says that both Govs. Ann Richards and George W. Bush engaged in some of this, but Perry’s is on a grander scale. Moreover, Perry is running as a Tea Party candidate. He can’t simply get by by saying “this is how it’s done in Texas.”

I understand all too well the inclination among conservatives to shelter Perry from criticism. But only Perry can put these and many other issues to bed. A savvy Republican operative (who previously was enthusiastic about Perry and is now undecided) said it best to me this afternoon. “If he gets better and explains all this he’ll be the nominee. And if not, he won’t be.”Yup.
 
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Edit: .1% on previous post. Still much ado about nothing. It won't go anywhere. His only Achilles heal is immigration and he can easily address that.

And yet he doesn't...

With almost no one willing to defend a performance marked by meandering or inaccurate answers, botched canned lines and the damaging adoption of the left’s critique of conservatives on immigration, it’s hard to imagine how things could have gone much worse for Perry Thursday night.

Bill Kristol, the Weekly Standard editor, summed it up with one word: “yikes.”

“Reading the reactions of thoughtful commentators after the stage emptied, talking with conservative policy types and GOP political operatives later last evening and this morning, we know we’re not alone. Most won’t express publicly just how horrified—or at least how demoralized—they are,” Kristol wrote.

“Are debates about performance? If they are, Mitt Romney slaughtered Rick Perry last night,” concluded John Podhoretz of the New York Post.

Perry, he wrote, was “Awful. Just awful. After the first half hour he seemed unable to speak a coherent sentence, even when he was carefully prepared — and he made a cringe-inducing bungle of a rehearsed soundbite about Romney’s flip-flopping. It was one of the worst moments I can remember.”

Read more: Web verdict on Perry: Brutal - Juana Summers - POLITICO.com
 
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PLEASE nominate him! PLEASE, PRETTY PLEASE.

Spotlight Falls on Texan's Strategist
Perry's Top Strategist Plays Hardball - WSJ.com

Americans are coming to know Texas Gov. Rick Perry as an aggressive if sometimes stumbling campaigner who's quick to attack and doesn't mince words. [Unless the word is PRECIPICE!!! LMAO]

Less known is the man behind Mr. Perry's pugnacious style of politicking, New Hampshire-based political guru David Carney. He's the chief architect of a presidential campaign that has already had its sharp ups and downs, including Mr. Perry's rocky performance in the Republican debate Thursday night in Orlando, Fla.

Mr. Carney has cut an outsized path for years through Texas politics and the GOP more broadly. He ran Mr. Perry's past four campaigns, starting in 1997, and is orchestrating the governor's bid for the Republican nomination. Texas Monthly in January deemed him one of the 25 most powerful people in the state, a striking accolade for an out-of-stater who rarely spends more than a week a month in Texas, living instead in the town where he grew up, Hancock, N.H., population 1,823.

Mr. Carney and the rest of his team—consisting of campaign director, spokesman, speechwriter, pollster and ad guru—have been with Mr. Perry for years, even decades in some cases.

But where Karl Rove and David Axelrod gained fame for shepherding the careers of George W. Bush and Barack Obama, Mr. Carney has hung in the shadows.

Many in political circles know the 52-year-old Mr. Carney for his attack ads and hardball tactics. But he has also earned a reputation as a subtle, data-driven wonk who spends weekends working on his doctoral thesis on federal spending and obsesses over the smallest nuance of a campaign.

His fingerprints are all over the month-old Perry presidential campaign, say people who have followed Mr. Carney's career. Two hallmarks have emerged early: careful timing and an eagerness to return punch for punch, though former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney was considered to have gotten the better of Mr. Perry Thursday night.

Mr. Perry jumped into the race Aug. 13, the same day as the closely watched Iowa straw poll, stealing the media spotlight from Minnesota Rep. Michele Bachmann's win in Ames.

When Texas Rep. Ron Paul put out a video blasting Mr. Perry for supporting Al Gore for president in 1988, the Perry camp released its response within hours: a 1988 letter in which Mr. Paul said he was dropping out of the Republican Party and faulted President Ronald Reagan.

When Mr. Perry's leading rival for the GOP nomination, Mr. Romney, announced that he had garnered the endorsement of former Minnesota Gov. Tim Pawlenty, the Perry camp shot back that afternoon with its own prominent endorsement, that of Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal.

"Let me say this, I wouldn't want to have him on the other team," said former New Hampshire Gov. John Sununu, who hired Mr. Carney to help manage his first race, in 1980, and then took him to the White House in 1989, when Mr. Sununu served as President George H.W. Bush's chief of staff.

Like most in his profession, Mr. Carney isn't sharply ideological. His past clients, from the late Sen. Ted Stevens of Alaska to former House Speaker Newt Gingrich, have almost all come from the party's mainstream. He was political director in the first Bush White House, and helped run the National Republican Senatorial Committee in the 1990s. "Dave's ideology is all about winning," said Fergus Cullen, former GOP chairman in New Hampshire.

Some of Mr. Carney's tactics have drawn complaints. In 2004, his consulting shop funded a signature drive ahead of the New Hampshire primary to dilute support for Democratic Sen. John Kerry by getting independent presidential candidate Ralph Nader on the ballot.

He founded and still helps run a group, Americans for Jobs Security, that aims blistering ad campaigns against Democrats—and even a few Republicans—in races across the country, while keeping its list of donors secret. The group has already funded ads this year backing Mr. Perry in both New Hampshire and Texas.

Then there's the David Carney who University of Texas Prof. Daron Shaw got to know during Mr. Perry's 2006 re-election campaign, when the consultant hired Mr. Shaw and three other academics to conduct real-time experiments on what campaign techniques actually built support.

"He's an iconoclast. He breaks molds. He questions conventional wisdoms," said Mr. Shaw, who also served as an adviser on George W. Bush's two presidential campaigns.

The team's findings spilled into Mr. Perry's next race, in 2010, when he faced a grueling primary challenge from Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchison. Eager to invest only in tactics that would pay off, Mr. Carney eschewed direct mail, scrapped all yard signs and print ads, and openly spurned all newspaper endorsements, all of them normal campaign techniques the academics had found wanting four years earlier.

Instead, he poured money into targeted TV ads, with a heavy emphasis on negative ads blasting Sen. Hutchison's voting record, and built a multi-tiered drive that paid recruiters to recruit other recruiters to bring new voters to the polls.

The combination of tactics paid off. Mr. Perry came from far down in the polls to beat his primary opponent, and won handily in the general election.

Mr. Carney has seen plenty of losses, too. His first race with Mr. Sununu fell short. He worked on President George H.W. Bush's re-election defeat in 1992. Former Sen. Robert Dole hired him before the 1996 New Hampshire primary, but Mr. Dole lost the contest by a wide margin to Patrick Buchanan before going on to win the nomination. Mr. Carney has managed several losing campaigns in his home state.

Often gruff and always publicity shy, Mr. Carney said in a recent interview, "Our campaign isn't going to be based on any particular state or any fancy, triple-bank-shot strategy."
 
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[Is there a connection? Will this be a campaign issue?]

Rick Perry Sought State Profits From Teacher Life Insurance Scheme
Rick Perry Sought State Profits From Teacher Life Insurance Scheme


Ruling Is Defeat for Death Bet Investors
Setback for Life Settlements - WSJ.com

SEPTEMBER 26, 2011
By LESLIE SCISM

Delaware's highest court dealt a blow last week to hedge funds and other investors who seek to buy life-insurance policies from people in order to collect the proceeds when they die.

In a pair of closely-watched cases, the court ruled that insurers can challenge the legitimacy of a policy that had changed hands at any point, even after the standard two-year window for contesting policy payouts has expired. That may embolden insurers to challenge more policies, and raises the risks for investors who own the policies.

The decisions arm the insurance industry with valuable ammunition for shedding what it argues are unsavory policies that could tarnish its reputation with consumers and lawmakers. Investors who buy the policies assume responsibility for future premiums, so they gain more financially if the insured person is dead.

The rulings also threaten to stifle a potential revival of the so-called life-settlement market, which already is reeling from a three-year downturn.

The rulings involve two policies held by a Deutsche Bank AG investing entity named GIII Accumulation Trust. The bank declined to comment.

Attorneys for other investors in life settlements conceded the decision was a setback, but argued they would still prevail on other legal fronts.

Nevertheless, the impact of the Delaware's Supreme Court rulings could be felt far beyond the small state's borders. Judges in other states may adopt Delaware's reasoning. Delaware is also home to a number of trust companies, and many contested sales were done through family trusts, ostensibly for tax-planning purposes, according to lawyers and industry executives.

That means the fate of a disproportionate volume of the disputed policies could be decided by the rulings.

"It's a great win for us," said Thomas Hetherington, a partner with Edison, McDowell & Hetherington LLP, which represented a life-insurance unit of Phoenix Cos. in one of the two cases. "This will have a substantial impact on cases pending all over the country."

The rulings come as hundreds of lawsuits are working their way through state and federal courts across the country, the fallout from the once-booming life-policy secondary market.

The market emerged more than two decades ago, when AIDS patients and older Americans sold their policies to pay for medical treatment and other needs.

During the boom years of the mid-2000s, some Wall Street firms began packaging policies into investments. Demand for the policies surged, prompting commission-hungry agents and other middlemen to fill the pipeline. Market experts estimate that thousands of people took out policies for quick flipping to investors between 2004 and 2008. The industry, like many financial markets, froze in 2008.

Insurers have alleged that agents and other middlemen hid the involvement of investors to trick the carriers into dubious sales. In many instances, court filings show, applicants claimed to need a multimillion-dollar policy for tax planning, when they actually were of modest means and aimed to flip the policy.

Investors in some lawsuits have responded that insurers, eager for six-figure premiums, failed to determine if applicants could afford to maintain the policies they purchased. They contend the insurers now want to void the policies because they have proved less profitable than expected.

In one of the Delaware rulings, the high court wrote that a measure of whether a policy is "bona fide" is whether the consumer himself pays the initial premiums.

The ruling involved a $9 million policy issued in 2007 by Phoenix on the life of Price Dawe, then 71 years old, through a Delaware statutory trust. Mr. Dawe claimed a net worth of $14 million and annual income of $500,000 in applying for the policy for estate-planning purposes, court filings show.

Mr. Dawe died in 2010. As Phoenix investigated the death claim, according to the insurer's filings, it learned the GIII investing entity purchased the beneficial interest of the Dawe trust for $376,111 less than two months after the policy went into force. As for Mr. Dawe's alleged wealth, he actually had "negligible income and assets," the insurer's filings state.

Phoenix then sought to void the policy, while GIII argued the period to contest the policy had expired.

In the other case, a unit of Lincoln National Corp. and its attorneys at Drinker Biddle & Reath LLP sought to void a $6 million policy that was also sold to GIII in a similar arrangement.

The two rulings come on the heels of a win by investors last November by New York's highest court, in a dispute over $56 million in policies taken out by the late Arthur Kramer, a prominent attorney who died in 2008. Just after taking out the policies, Mr. Kramer sold them to hedge funds.

The New York justices ruled it was legal under state law for somebody to take out a policy and immediately sell it to a stranger.

In addressing New York's ruling, the Delaware judges said it involved "unique New York insurance statutes."

The Delaware "ruling will certainly be referred to by the carriers," said Jule Rousseau, an attorney at Arent Fox LLP who filed a brief in the Kramer case for the Life Insurance Settlement Association.

In particular, the decision to remove the two-year window for challenging policies could make it "an uphill battle" for many investors across the U.S. seeking payouts on older policies, he said.
 
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The Permanent Candidate
What’s Driving Rick Perry?
The Permanent Candidate: What’s Driving Rick Perry? | The New Republic

The Tea Party movement had not yet fully impinged on the nation’s consciousness when Rick Perry stepped to the podium outside Austin City Hall on April 15, 2009, to speak at a tax-day protest. Wearing a big “DON’T MESS WITH TEXAS” pin, a black baseball cap with a hunting ranch logo, and the collar of his coat turned up, Perry swayed as he spoke, as if trembling with fervor. The crowd of 1,000 roared as Perry invoked states’ rights and the Tenth Amendment’s protections against federal overreach. Following the speech, Perry spoke to reporters—and uttered a few sentences that would make national headlines for days and weeks to come. “We’ve got a great union,” he said. “There’s absolutely no reason to dissolve it. But, if Washington continues to thumb their nose at the American people, you know, who knows what might come out of that.”

Perry’s comments established him as the standard-bearer of anti-Washington sentiment months before the country as a whole began a rightward shift. It was “the first true love affair for the Tea Party,” Perry’s friend Bill Miller, a political consultant in Austin, told me. The remarks were also cause for glee among aides to Senator Kay Bailey Hutchison, a more moderate Republican who was preparing to challenge Perry in the 2010 gubernatorial primary. Surely, Perry’s musings about secession would be fatal to his reelection. And, in fact, the Texas establishment, already leery of Perry, did edge further away from him—for one thing, he received not a single major newspaper endorsement in the 2010 primary. But it didn’t matter. The right-wing, anti-Washington wave Perry had picked up on kept building and swamped Hutchison, who lost by 20 percentage points.

That race, together with Perry’s 2010 call to arms, Fed Up! Our Fight to Save America from Washington—in which he referred to Social Security as a “Ponzi scheme”—sealed the image of him as a hardened ideologue driven by small-government orthodoxy. This amuses those in Texas who know Perry best. What was on display that day in April and in the months since, they say, was not Perry the ideologue but Perry the tactician—a politician skilled at picking up on shifts in the electorate and adapting himself to them. Perry, says Bill Allaway of the conservative Texas Taxpayers and Research Association, has a “knack for seeing where stuff is headed and thinking where he could be with respect to that.” The tax-day speech was an example of Perry “getting right in front of the parade,” says Miller. “He saw that this is where I need to be right now. And that’s just having good campaign judgment to do that.” Perry’s political guru, Dave Carney, basically said as much when I met with him in Austin, attributing his client’s prescience to the pleasure that Perry takes in being out among voters. “He listens, he looks you in the eye, and he gets a sense of where people are going,” Carney told me. “He has a very good sense of what’s going on.” Greg Hartman, a former Texas political strategist, marvels at Perry’s transformation since 2009. “The most amazing thing about Perry is that now that he’s jumped out there, people say he’s brash and caustic, but he built his career as lieutenant governor and governor by being pretty quiet. He’s not brash. This is a little bit of a new persona here.”

None of this is to say that Perry isn’t really a conservative. He most certainly is. Specifically, he’s the product of a West Texas political culture that Miller describes as a “sort of Confederate-based, anti-federalism, anti-telling-me-what-the hell-to-do kind of deal.” But Texans, it turns out, don’t tend to think about Perry in ideological terms. “I’m not sure you can ever ascribe a real philosophy to Perry,” says Tom Uher, a conservative Democrat who lived in the same Austin rental house as Perry when both were serving in the state legislature in the 1980s. “He can switch colors to whatever he needed to be.” Indeed, the deeper one looks into Perry’s past, the more it becomes clear that ideology is not a particularly useful way to explain his actions or his worldview. But, if political philosophy doesn’t really animate Perry, the question remains: What does?
 
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[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZS23-s7eqig]Chris Christie Fat? Wrong To Talk About It? - According To Dave (Sep.28/11) - YouTube[/ame]
 
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At Rick Perry’s Texas hunting spot, camp’s old racially charged name lingered
Rick Perry family’s hunting camp still known to many by old racially charged name - The Washington Post

Paint Creek, Tex. — In the early years of his political career, Rick Perry began hosting fellow lawmakers, friends and supporters at his family’s secluded West Texas hunting camp, a place known by the name painted in block letters across a large, flat rock standing upright at its gated entrance.

“Niggerhead,” it read.

Ranchers who once grazed cattle on the 1,070-acre parcel on the Clear Fork of the Brazos River called it by that name well before Perry and his father, Ray, began hunting there in the early 1980s. There is no definitive account of when the rock first appeared on the property. In an earlier time, the name on the rock was often given to mountains and creeks and rock outcroppings across the country. Over the years, civil rights groups and government agencies have had some success changing those and other racially offensive names that dotted the nation’s maps.

But the name of this particular parcel did not change for years after it became associated with Rick Perry, first as a private citizen, then as a state official and finally as Texas governor. Some locals still call it that. As recently as this summer, the slablike rock — lying flat, the name still faintly visible beneath a coat of white paint — remained by the gated entrance to the camp.

When asked last week, Perry said the word on the rock is an “offensive name that has no place in the modern world.”

But how, when or whether he dealt with it when he was using the property is less clear and adds a dimension to the emerging biography of Perry, who quickly moved into the top tier of Republican presidential candidates when he entered the race in August.

He grew up in a segregated era whose history has defined and complicated the careers of many Southern politicians. Perry has spoken often about how his upbringing in this sparsely populated farming community influenced his conservatism. He has rarely, if ever, discussed what it was like growing up amid segregation in an area where blacks were a tiny fraction of the population.

In his responses to two rounds of detailed, written questions, Perry said his father first leased the property in 1983. Rick Perry said he added his own name to the lease from 1997 to 1998, when he was state agriculture commissioner, and again from 2004 to 2007, when he was governor.

He offered a simple version of how he dealt with the rock, followed by a more elaborate one.

“When my Dad joined the lease in 1983, he took the first opportunity he had to paint over the offensive word on the rock during the 4th of July holiday,” Perry said in his initial response. “It is my understanding that the rock was eventually turned over to further obscure what was originally written on it.”

Perry said that he was not with his father when he painted over the name but that he “agreed with” the decision.

In response to follow-up questions, Perry gave a more detailed account.

“My mother and father went to the lease and painted the rock in either 1983 or 1984,” Perry wrote. “This occurred after I paid a visit to the property with a friend and saw the rock with the offensive word. After my visit I called my folks and mentioned it to them, and they painted it over during their next visit.”

“Ever since, any time I ever saw the rock it was painted over,” Perry said.

Perry’s version of events differs in many respects from the recollections of seven people, interviewed by The Washington Post, who spoke in detail of their memories of seeing the rock with the name at various points during the years that Perry was associated with the property through his father, partners or his signature on a lease.

Some who had watched Perry’s political ascent recalled their reaction to the name on the rock and their worry that it could become a political liability for Perry.

“I remember the first time I went through that pasture and saw that,” said Ronnie Brooks, a retired game warden who began working in the region in 1981 and who said he guided three or four turkey shoots for Rick Perry when Perry was a state legislator between 1985 and 1990. “.?.?. It kind of offended me, truthfully.”

Brooks, who said he holds Perry “in the highest esteem,” said that at some point after Perry began bringing lawmakers to the camp, the rock was turned over. Brooks could not recall exactly when. He said he did not know who turned the rock over.

Another local who visited the property with Perry and the legislators in those years recalled seeing the rock with the name clearly visible.

“I thought, ‘This is going to embarrass Rick some day,’?” said this person, who did not want to be named, fearing negative consequences from speaking on the subject.

The hunting camp was simple in the 1980s, just a cabin with a long table for cleaning fish and deer, a few bunks and a porch set along a riverbank in Throckmorton County. There was a sprawling pecan tree and a water tank for showers, an arrangement that got more elaborate as the years went on.

The camp is secluded, situated on a vast, 42,000-acre ranch that reaches into three counties and is owned and managed by the Hendrick Home for Children Trust. Various parcels of the Hendrick ranch, as it is known, have been leased out over the years for grazing cattle, oil drilling and, since the mid-1970s or so, hunting. All sorts of people have been on the winding, rocky ranch roads over the years — cowboys, ranchers, hunters, fishermen, oil workers, power company workers, wildlife biologists, real estate agents, tax assessors, surveyors, locals and outsiders who have visited the hunting camps that dot the property.

This story is based on interviews with more than two dozen people, including residents, hunters, ranchers, government officials and others who live in Haskell County, where Perry’s boyhood home of Paint Creek is found; in neighboring Throckmorton County, where the hunting camp is located; and elsewhere in Texas. Ray Perry did not respond to numerous attempts to reach him for comment. The campaign declined a request to make him available.

Most of those interviewed requested anonymity because they fear being ostracized or other repercussions in their small community. Some are supporters of Perry, whose parents still live in Paint Creek. Others, both Democrats and Republicans, are not. Several spoke matter-of-factly about the hunting camp and its name and wondered why it held any outside interest.

Of those interviewed, the seven who said they saw the rock said the block-lettered name was clearly visible at different points in the 1980s and 1990s. One, a former worker on the ranch, believes he saw it as recently as 2008.

Perry’s roots

As he campaigns for the presidency, Perry often tells of growing up in this tiny community, where farm fields vanish into the horizon and old houses are often abandoned these days rather than sold.

In interviews and speeches, Perry has talked about learning self-reliance from his father, a cotton farmer and county commissioner for many years, and his mother, Amelia, a homemaker. He has talked about a childhood centered on Boy Scouts, school and church.

“Where I grew up was way out in the country,” Perry said in his responses to The Post. “There weren’t many people at all. That’s just the way it was. To some extent college, and to a great extent the Air Force, expanded my worldview. I traveled all over the world — Asia, Europe, Northern Africa — and witnessed the diversity of other peoples and societies.

“I judge folks by their character and ethics. As Governor, I represent a big, fast-growing and diverse state. My appointments and actions represent the whole state, including our growing diversity, such as appointment of the first African-American Supreme Court Justice — whom I later appointed to Chief Justice — and the first Latina Secretary of State.”

But until he joined the Air Force, Perry has said, Paint Creek “was the only world that I knew.”

It was a mostly white world. In 1950, the census counted about 900 black residents out of a population of about 13,000 in Haskell County, numbers that have declined steadily. Most blacks worked as maids or field hands and lived in an across-the-tracks neighborhood in the city of Haskell, the county seat, about 20 minutes from Paint Creek.

Throckmorton County, where the hunting camp is located, was for years considered a virtual no-go zone for blacks because of old stories about the lynching of a black man there, locals said. The 1950 Census listed one black resident in Throckmorton County out of a population of about 3,600. In 1960, there were four; in 1970, two; in 1980, none. The 2010 Census shows 11 black residents.

Mae Lou Yeldell, who is black and has lived in Haskell County for 70 years, recalled a gas station refusing to sell her father fuel when he drove the family through Throckmorton in the 1950s. She said it was not uncommon in the 1950s and ’60s for whites to greet blacks with, “Morning, nigger!”

“I heard that so much it’s like a broken record,” said Yeldell, who had never heard of the hunting spot by the river.

Racial attitudes here have shifted slowly. Haskell County began observing Martin Luther King Jr. Day two years ago, according to a county commissioner. And many older white residents understand the civil rights movement as a struggle that addressed problems elsewhere.

“It wasn’t the same issues here you were dealing with,” said Don Ballard, the superintendent of the Paint Creek school district. “Certainly were no picketing signs. Blacks were perfectly satisfied with what was happening.”

It is within that context that many people explained the name of the hunting camp.

“It’s just a name,” said Haskell County Judge David Davis, sitting in his courtroom and looking at a window. “Like those are vertical blinds. It’s just what it was called. There was no significance other than as a hunting deal.”

The name “Niggerhead” has a long and wide history. It was once applied to products such as soap and chewing tobacco, but most often to geographic features such as hills and rocks.

In 1962, the U.S. Board on Geographic Names changed more than a hundred such names, substituting “Negro.”

“Typically these were in areas where African Americans were not all that common,” said Mark Monmonier, a geography professor at Syracuse University who wrote a book on the subject of racially offensive place names.

The federal action still left many local names unchanged. In Texas, Lady Bird Johnson, the former first lady, lobbied to change the name of a mountain in Burnet, Tex., that had the same name as Perry’s hunting spot. In 1968, it became “Colored Mountain.” In 1989, the Texas NAACP began lobbying the state legislature to change many more names, such as “Nigger Creek” and “Niggerhead Hill,” although there has been resistance from private landowners, according to news accounts.

In his responses, Perry said the managers of the Hendrick ranch appealed in recent years to federal officials to rename Niggerhead, although the name does not appear on U.S. topographic maps. Monmonier could not find it in a database maintained by the U.S. Board on Geographic Names. That suggests renaming the property would be a simple matter for its owners or possibly state officials, Monmonier said.

Chuck Wilson, the manager of the Hendrick ranch, said that particular parcel is now called “North Camp Pasture.”

“It was given the name several years ago,” Wilson said in an interview last week. “Probably, I’m thinking, about five years ago.”

The property

The camp is tucked deep into a rocky, hilly area. It is possible to fly into the area in a small plane, as Perry sometimes did. There are two ways to drive there, from the west by a long, rocky road or from the east by a more passable road that crosses the adjacent ranch and ends right at the camp, about a football field away from the rock. Both of those roads are private. Wilson declined to grant permission for a reporter to visit the camp and instructed workers not to speak to journalists.

It is possible that guests approaching from the east would not see the rock at the gated entrance. In his responses, Perry said he and his guests used the eastern entrance in later years.

“The rock was at the entrance we used in the 1980s,” he said. “We stopped using that entrance in the 1990s, and entered only by Watt Matthews’ ranch where there was a grass landing strip.”

Approaching from the western side, drivers would eventually reach a long, metal gate where the rock stood to the left.

“It just said ‘Niggerhead,’?” said one person who said he saw the rock in the 1980s and did not want to be named, because he still lives in the area. “That’s all that was on it.”

The rock was about five feet across and three feet tall, smooth and relatively flat, the word in block letters stretching across its surface, said the former worker from the Hendrick ranch, who said he had seen the rock numerous times over the past 30 years.

“I was just so taken aback that it was so blatant, so in your face,” said a person from the Dallas area who visited the camp once in 1990 or 1991 and did not want to be named in a story potentially critical of Perry. “It was just, ‘whop.’ It was a big rock, big enough to write that whole thing out.”

Longtime hunters, cowboys and ranchers said this particular place was known by that name as long as they could remember, and still is.

“The cowboys, when they were gathering cattle, they’d say they’re going to the Matthews or Niggerhead or the Nail” pastures, said Bill Reed, a distributor for Coors beer in nearby Abilene who used to lease a hunting parcel adjacent to the Perrys’. “Those were all names. Nobody thought anything about it.”

When Rick Perry returned to Paint Creek from the Air Force in the late 1970s, Ray Perry, a county commissioner at the time, was determined to introduce his son to people who could bolster a future in politics, Reed said. Ray Perry once borrowed Reed’s hunting lodge, which was big enough for large groups, to host a party for 75-or-so people in the late 1970s or early 1980s, an event Reed described as a political coming out party.

“He was bringing in political leaders, important figures, business leaders . . . big-money people out of Dallas, Fort Worth, Houston, where all your big money comes from,” Reed said.

He and others said that the Perrys used their own cabin for smaller gatherings and that some who went there may not have been offended by the property’s name.

“You know, Texas is a little different — you go where it’s comfortable,” Reed said. “.?.?. It would have been one thing if they had named it, but they didn’t. So, it’s basically a figure of speech as far as most people are concerned. No one thought anything about it.”

The rock

Rick Perry was elected to the state legislature in 1985. Soon after, he began hosting spring turkey shoots and other hunts for supporters and fellow legislators.

Perry was a Democrat serving on the appropriations committee at the time. He was also in the process of forming relationships that would lead to his switch to the Republican Party when he ran for agriculture commissioner in 1989. In two interviews, Brooks, the former game warden, said he could not recall who came.

“One year there’d be four or five. The next might be eight or 10, something like that,” Brooks said. “They’d cook, fish, might kill a wild hog and eat it. They’d just go there to relax and enjoy themselves. He was a very gracious host and, in my opinion, well thought of.”

Brooks said he saw the rock laid down flat by the gate soon after Perry began bringing lawmakers there. Brooks could not recall exactly when. He did not know who moved the rock.

The other local who visited the ranch with Perry during those years recalled the rock standing upright with the name visible. He said it was painted over years later; he was not sure exactly when but recalled remarking about the change with friends.

“We kind of laughed about it,” recalled this person, who said he would probably vote for Perry if he wins the Republican nomination. “My recollection is that it was several years ago. We were laughing because he had it painted. Because it had always been there. You couldn’t miss it, right there at the gate going in. We laughed about, ‘Rick’s covering his tracks.’?”

Perry estimated that he hunted on the property “about a dozen times” between 1983 and 2006. As he rose through the ranks of Texas politics, the rustic camp was renovated, according to people who saw the place in recent years. A second story was added to the old cabin, along with brown wood siding and an outdoor staircase. A bathhouse was added, and power lines, and a low pipe fence was built around the cabin. A new sign had been posted. It read, “Perry’s Camp.”

The rock remained by the gate, the name brushed with a thin coat of white paint. The paint was slightly faded, according to the person who saw it recently.

“That’s something that sticks in my memory,” this person said. “It was kind of a sloppy job. It wasn’t doing what it was intended to do.”

As recently as this summer, the rock was still there, according to photographs viewed by The Washington Post.

In the photos, it was to the left of the gate. It was laid down flat. The exposed face was brushed clean of dirt. White paint, dried drippings visible, covered a word across the surface. An N and two G’s were faintly visible.
 
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Seeking Taxes, Romney Went After Business
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/02/u...ategies-as-governor-bucked-his-ceo-image.html

October 1, 2011
By MICHAEL BARBARO

BOSTON — Much of the business community in Massachusetts was puzzled. Mitt Romney, a Republican with high-caliber corporate credentials, had run for governor pledging to sweep aside barriers to business and act as the state’s “top salesman.”

But just a few months after Mr. Romney took office in 2003, what he delivered seemed anything but friendly to the C.E.O. crowd: a bill to financial firms for what they saw as $110 million in new corporate taxes — and a promise of more to come.

“How could he do this to businesses as a business guy?” Joe Casey, then a top executive at a Massachusetts bank, Seacoast Financial, recalled asking colleagues whose companies had to pay up after the Romney administration closed a tax loophole. “It was very aggressive, and it was a surprise.”

For the next three years, the Romney administration relentlessly scoured the tax code for more loopholes, extracting hundreds of millions of corporate dollars to help close budget gaps in a state with a struggling economy. It was only after Mr. Romney was gearing up in 2005 for a possible White House bid that he backed away from some of his most assertive tax enforcement proposals amid intensifying complaints from local companies and conservative antitax groups in Washington.
 

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Perry is entitled to his opinion and he will still be President whether you like it or not.

Again, I'm not a big fan, but I call them like I see them.

Perry takes lead in new Iowa poll; Update: Perry has double-digit national lead in PPP poll? ? Hot Air (emphasis mine and it gets better for Perry at the end of the article with a GOP vs. a PPP poll - issues with PPP are noted at the front).

Perry is going to take this.


CNN/ORC has Perry maintaining with higher electability.

Sandoval and Jindal endorse Perry - huge wins, especially with Sandoval's machine now behind Perry.


PPP poll released shows social security is hurting Rick Perry, but CNN/ORC says not so fast. PPP oversampled (as usual) and will pull in closer to elections to save their reputation.

Intrade has Perry ahead with 36.4 to Romney's 36.3 - a dead heat. However RomneyCare will bring him down as he won't be able to debate Obama on the merits of ObamaCare, leaving in place a system that will cost trillions and forever change the face of America forever.

Bottom line: Obama would lose to my dog right now. It will either Perry/Cain or Perry/Rubio on the GOP ticket and a landslide victory

It is a good day.

Wow, so PPP has Perry up after the second debate - and they are a DEM firm known to skew samples until the races come close to elections: RealClearPolitics - Latest Polls

Perry looks like he survived the second debate.

With Obama collapsing before our very eyes, say hello to your next President: Rick Perry.


Rick Perry is a DUNCE. The man is stupid beyond belief. He has gotten as far as he has by providing "under the table" graft for all that pay. And the GOP has duly noted his stupidity and ineptness!!! This is too bad because he is totally unelectable, entirely and completely. But, I am hopeful that he will get the GOP nomination. Where is gmerits???

I just want to be sure this is noted so we can ALL come back and laugh!

LMAO


RIP: Rick Perry For President (August 13, 2011—October 11, 2011)
RIP: Rick Perry For President (August 13, 2011—October 11, 2011)

Texas Gov. Rick Perry's campaign said he was going to be well-rested before Tuesday's Bloomberg-Washington Post Republican debate — but they hadn't warned that he'd sleep through half of it.

Perry entered the Republican Presidential race two months ago to great fanfare, but after high-profile stumbles, he has quickly gone from leading the pack to also-ran.

Unlike the previous debates where he was thrust into the center and slammed from all sides, Perry was insulted in perhaps the worst way in politics — he was ignored.

This debate was teed-up for Perry. It was about the economy — not about Social Security, Immigration, or racist rocks — yet he missed every opportunity presented to land a blow on Mitt Romney.

He seemed detached and irritated while on stage with his opponents, allowing candidates with no chance of winning the nomination (Newt Gingrich, for starters) to look almost presidential.

Over half of the people who were backing Perry last month have abandoned his campaign, and his performances have done little to give Republican voters reason to rethink their decision.

He spoke just twelve times, occupying little more than a handful of the debate's 110 minutes — including his softball question to Mitt Romney (on how he responds to criticism of the Massachusetts health care law) that was summarily shoved back in his face.

Perry even allowed the debate moderators to open up a new front for assault from his fellow candidates — failing to prevent his signature Texas Enterprise Fund from being tied to the Obama administration's controversial Solyndra loan program.

The one thing going for Perry is that he has money — over $15 million in the bank — ready to spend on negative ads, that he is unable to deliver on in person.

But unlike Romney whose problems lie in ideology, Perry has proven to be a fundamentally bad candidate. After four weak-to-terrible debate performances, GOP voters are already doubting he has what it takes — and it seems donors are sure to follow.
 
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THE MAKING OF MITT ROMNEY
Presidential candidates are more than the sum of their position papers; they are a product of their life experiences. The Globe's seven-part series, the most comprehensive biography of Mitt Romney, examines the forces that have shaped this Republican candidate for president in Campaign 2008.
The Making of Mitt Romney - Boston.com
 
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Bad Blood Between Perry and Romney Is Longstanding
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/20/us/politics/romney-and-perry-have-history-of-clashes.html?_r=1&hp

By MICHAEL D. SHEAR and JEFF ZELENY
Published: October 19, 2011

WASHINGTON — The hostilities flaring between Mitt Romney and Gov. Rick Perry of Texas have been steadily rising inside both camps and may signal a new, more combative phase in the Republican presidential campaign.

The harsh exchanges between the men at a debate in Las Vegas this week made clear the differences — in style and substance, background and belief — facing voters as they get closer to selecting the party’s nominee. Mr. Romney and Mr. Perry have been on a collision course for months, since Mr. Perry began considering a run for the presidency.

But the animosities began long ago, set off by a series of political encounters that began when the two men were governors — Mr. Romney in Massachusetts — fighting over the services of a political consultant.

The story of their political relationship starts with two ambitious men whose life stories led them to the statehouse. But the similarities in their careers have always been outweighed by the differences, and by the moments of personal and professional conflict.

Mr. Romney’s decision, as chairman of the Republican Governors Association in 2006, to hire a consultant who was working for one of Mr. Perry’s political opponents left the Texas governor angry, aides said.

“I think that started the downhill decline in the relationship between the two of them,” a Texas Republican operative said on Wednesday, recalling the tension that existed at the time. “They have never been close.”

It was not long before Mr. Perry criticized Mr. Romney by name in his 2008 book about the history of the Boy Scouts. To Mr. Romney’s annoyance, Mr. Perry noted that the Scouts were blocked from participation in the 2002 Winter Olympic Games, which Mr. Romney led.

“In the absence of an explanation,” Mr. Perry wrote, “it is difficult to avoid the conclusion that the decision was made as a reaction to the protests of gay activist groups.”

Mr. Romney beat Mr. Perry to the national stage, mounting his first bid for the presidency in 2008. Mr. Perry’s decision to endorse Rudolph W. Giuliani, the former New York mayor, over his fellow governor, added to the insult that Mr. Romney felt, according to advisers. He has never forgotten the snub, according to people close to Mr. Romney.

Before Mr. Perry’s entry into the current presidential race, the two men might have found common ground in their desire to defeat President Obama.

But beyond personal slights, the ideological and personal gulf separating the pair — Mr. Romney, a wealthy businessman from Massachusetts whose father was a governor who also ran for president, and Mr. Perry, with his roots on a Texas farm — has added to the longstanding suspicion and ill will between them.

It was only the third day of his presidential candidacy when Mr. Perry blew kisses into a television camera after being asked about Mr. Romney. “Give him my love,” Mr. Perry said, brimming with a confidence that has been largely absent during a series of tepid debate performances.

Mr. Romney, by contrast, has spent most of the last several months dismissing Mr. Perry as not ready for the White House. Mr. Romney’s campaign released a video on Wednesday titled “Ready to Lead?” that mocked Mr. Perry’s stumbling debate performances.

That sense of Mr. Romney looking down his nose at Mr. Perry has intensified the Texas governor’s disregard for his rival, two associates said. Mr. Perry believes that Mr. Romney has been condescending and that he has not taken his candidacy seriously, they said.

Mr. Romney declined to engage in a discussion about his rival on Wednesday. After getting off a flight in Minneapolis — where he was changing planes on his way to a campaign stop in Sioux Falls, S.D. — Mr. Romney refused to answer a reporter’s question about whether the candidates’ relationship could be described as having “acrimony.”

Pointing to a traveling aide who was warding the reporter away, Mr. Romney said, “I’ve got to do what my media guy tells me.”

But other aides publicly accused the Texas governor of acting like a bully at the debate. “I don’t think road rage is a quality people are looking for in their next president,” said Stuart Stevens, a top strategist for Mr. Romney.

Mr. Perry pressed his case against Mr. Romney on Wednesday, insisting that “you won’t hear a lot of shifting nuances from me.”

Mr. Perry has struggled to find his footing since entering the contest to fanfare this summer and then performing badly in several debates. His campaign said he would spend the next several weeks unveiling a “full-blown” economic plan that includes a proposal to adopt a flat tax.

But it was his testy, personal exchange at the debate in which he accused Mr. Romney of hiring illegal immigrants to tend his lawn at his Boston home that finally managed to rattle his seasoned opponent. While Mr. Romney’s advisers say they believe he fared better than Mr. Perry, his response may end up as a negative television ad.

“I’m running for office, for Pete’s sake,” Mr. Romney recalled telling the company that provided him lawn care. “I can’t have illegals.”

Asked whether Mr. Perry came across as too hostile in the debate, his communications director, Ray Sullivan said: “That’s for others to decide. Governor Perry is a very competitive, passionate guy when it comes to his record and his conservative values.”

Mr. Romney’s aides said Wednesday that he had gotten the better of his rival. But they also said they welcomed the idea that Mr. Perry might emerge as a more compelling opponent in the weeks to come. Several said the challenge of defeating a stronger Rick Perry would improve Mr. Romney’s shot at winning the White House.

“Of course people took swings at him, but he was passionate,” said Andrea Saul, a spokeswoman for Mr. Romney. “He’s always going to defend his record, he’s not going to take these misrepresentations lying down by any means.”

The next debate is three weeks away, which gives the candidates a chance to regroup and take their messages directly to Republican voters. Meanwhile, the campaigns are engaged in a cat-and-mouse game about when to start their television advertising.

Both Mr. Perry and Mr. Romney have war chests with millions of dollars that could pay for months of advertising. And new rules by the Republican party will encourage proportional voting in some states during the primary, a move that could drag out the contest as the candidates amass delegates more slowly than in the past.
 
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I heard somewhere recently that more than half the country cant name even ONE GOP candidate. No one cares- the party is fragmented- the great masses are waking up to realize the fraud that has been perputated upon them since Ray-Guns era:
Sure you might make it in America and become one of the rich and powerful. But the sad truth is that if you werent born intro it, chances not. This deceit has been the foundation of the Greedy Bastards power for a long time. If you come from a middle class or poorer background and think that you will share lunch with Donald Trump if you keep your nose to the grindstone- you deserve what you get. The rest of us cant keep on carrying you any longer. Get a gun and put yopurself out of our misery.
 
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