CJC-1295 Experience

[bigNerd]

I've only been running it for a 1.5 weeks now. However, I can say that I have never experienced such good sleep (except for maybe when I was a teenager).

In my opinion, this stuff is worth the cost if for only this benefit. I'll let you know if I get any gains out of it.

 

[TABLE]

that is good to know i was looking at getting some to aid with sleep . What dose are you at

 

[Get Some]

CJC-1295 with the traditional "DAC" component can cause GH Bleed. Effectively, a slow drip of GH that never really spikes. This slow drip IMO is not essential for long term use. Using CJC-1295 non DAC (aka CJC-1293 or GRF (1-29)) combined with GHRP-6 or GHRP-2 in scheduled doses will cause a spike in levels when your body needs it most. From my understanding, the goal is to create the pulsatile effect that one would get from exogenous HGH. So, I would urge you guys to give the GRF (1-29) and GHRP combo a shot.

Don't take my word for it though, do the research on your own. Have every possible account and description on hand for reference concerning peptides that you are putting into your body. People get excited about taking something and start right away rather than spending weeks or even months to research every possible avenue.

But, nonetheless, I am still interested to see how this trial goes for the OP. So, please keep everyone updated.

 

[toothache]

What dose are you at

I'd like to know this as well.

Also, does it make you feel lethargic during the day?

 

[someanddone]

I just started a regimen of 100mcg of grf 1-29 and 100 mcg of ghrp-6 three times per day 1 week before the start of my pct. The goal is to provide an anabolic environment during the recovery period of my hpta where testosterone and other hormones are low. I am pinning upon wake-up, post-workout, and 45 min before bed. I have noticed some interesting "sides" so far, but I am going to start a thread about it soon, so I'll give details there.
Good luck op, and be sure to look up the gh bleed issue as get some said.

 

[bigNerd]

I'm aware of the GH bleed issue.

I am running it at 2 mg/s week (half on Sunday and the other half on Wednesday/Thursday).

I wake up in the morning with a crazy rejuvenated feeling - and it never really seems to go away. Before CJC, I would fall asleep at my desk and wake up and fall asleep for about 45 mins in the afternoon. I don't do this anymore.

 

[someanddone]

So you know that gh bleed is a feminized pattern of gh release? Also, are you aware that a ghrh is not even close to as effecacious as it could be if combined with a ghrp? You want surges and "valleys" if you are a man, regardless of whether you are using it for bodybuilding or youthful rejuvenation. And you are not taking advantage of the nighttime surge which is the most productive gh flood of the day for men. If you think you wake up feeling great with cjc 1295, you should try grf 1-29 with ghrp-6 or ghrp-2 before bed.
I'm just trying to help bro. You should really check out datbtrue's incredibly in depth thread on all things peptides/hormones. It's on another forum and I can't post links from my iPhone but I'm sure somebody else can hook it up.

 

[KSUzachg]

I just started a regimen of 100mcg of grf 1-29 and 100 mcg of ghrp-6 three times per day 1 week before the start of my pct. The goal is to provide an anabolic environment during the recovery period of my hpta where testosterone and other hormones are low. I am pinning upon wake-up, post-workout, and 45 min before bed. I have noticed some interesting "sides" so far, but I am going to start a thread about it soon, so I'll give details there.
Good luck op, and be sure to look up the gh bleed issue as get some said.

Hey man, If I were you I would inject your nightly dose right before bed. This is when the largest spike in GH naturally occurs and if you wait 45 minutes before going to bed you could be wasting what would otherwise be a HUGE spike in GH. I eat a purely protein food e.i. chicken breast or two 30 minutes before I inject my night time dose. Right after that shot I go straight to bed. Carbs and FFAs greatly reduce the potential of a GH spike hence the only protein meal. Just my 2 cents bro

 

[someanddone]

Hey man, If I were you I would inject your nightly dose right before bed. This is when the largest spike in GH naturally occurs and if you wait 45 minutes before going to bed you could be wasting what would otherwise be a HUGE spike in GH. I eat a purely protein food e.i. chicken breast or two 30 minutes before I inject my night time dose. Right after that shot I go straight to bed. Carbs and FFAs greatly reduce the potential of a GH spike hence the only protein meal. Just my 2 cents bro

I take my casein shake right before bed so I pin the peptides 30-45 minutes before that. I'll probably start pinning right before bed though as just a protein shake with no carbs or fats should not interfere with the gh spike.

 

[KSUzachg]

I take my casein shake right before bed so I pin the peptides 30-45 minutes before that. I'll probably start pinning right before bed though as just a protein shake with no carbs or fats should not interfere with the gh spike.

Yep, right on

 

[solo47]

Hmmm, I always thought peptides, like GH itself, work best on an empty stomach. But I always take a handful of argi-orni half hour before bedtime anyway.

Solo

 

[KSUzachg]

Hmmm, I always thought peptides, like GH itself, work best on an empty stomach. But I always take a handful of argi-orni half hour before bedtime anyway.

Solo

Possibly, but I am thinking it will not considering ghrp-6 is essentially exogenous grehlin. As long as the undigested contents of the stomach are purely manageable amounts of protein I
see no problem. More so I think what is digested into the blood stream is of more importance. E.i. high insulin levels and high FFAs in the bloodstream blunt gh release. When FFAs and insulin are at a fairly low, stable, level gh should not be affected all that much. Please correct me if I am wrong. This is just my comprehension of the idea.

When consuming excessive amounts of protein and it all cannot be digested I belive the liver converts it to glucose, thus raising insulin. Once again, correct me if I am wrong. Im just a poor college student[)]

 

[Get Some]

Possibly, but I am thinking it will not considering ghrp-6 is essentially exogenous grehlin. As long as the undigested contents of the stomach are purely manageable amounts of protein I
see no problem. More so I think what is digested into the blood stream is of more importance. E.i. high insulin levels and high FFAs in the bloodstream blunt gh release. When FFAs and insulin are at a fairly low, stable, level gh should not be affected all that much. Please correct me if I am wrong. This is just my comprehension of the idea.

When consuming excessive amounts of protein and it all cannot be digested I belive the liver converts it to glucose, thus raising insulin. Once again, correct me if I am wrong. Im just a poor college student[)]

This is essentially correct to my knowledge. The main factor here is insulin. Low levels of insulin create the best work environment for these peptides. An analogy would be to compare trying to get your work done with 10 people standing in your office talking versus you being all alone. With 10 people talking you have to expend all your energy getting rid of those people or meeting their needs. And by the time you're done with that, you have no energy left to do the work designated to you. Whereas, alone, you can concentrate and have no distractions (unless you're on Meso [)]). Make sense?

 

[someanddone]

This is essentially correct to my knowledge. The main factor here is insulin. Low levels of insulin create the best work environment for these peptides. An analogy would be to compare trying to get your work done with 10 people standing in your office talking versus you being all alone. With 10 people talking you have to expend all your energy getting rid of those people or meeting their needs. And by the time you're done with that, you have no energy left to do the work designated to you. Whereas, alone, you can concentrate and have no distractions (unless you're on Meso [)]). Make sense?

So could the peptides affect blood sugar levels and cause possible aggrevation of diabetes or hypoglycemia?

I get weak, sweaty, shaky, all of the symptoms I've felt when my blood sugar was really low, nearly every time I've pinned the grf(1-29) with ghrp-6. My father and his father were diabetics, and I have hypoglycemia, so it's definitely something of concern for me.

Thanks

 

[Get Some]

So could the peptides affect blood sugar levels and cause possible aggrevation of diabetes or hypoglycemia?

I get weak, sweaty, shaky, all of the symptoms I've felt when my blood sugar was really low, nearly every time I've pinned the grf(1-29) with ghrp-6. My father and his father were diabetics, and I have hypoglycemia, so it's definitely something of concern for me.

Thanks

From what I can see, these peptides affect blood sugar and insulin levels no more than anything naturally occuring in your body. Exogenous GH is what brings on those problems. So, for someone with no medical history or family history of such problems should not have to worry at all. Inyour case it may be slightly different, just watch it closely. The weakness and often tiredness are common early symptoms of peptides and/or GH. These should fade with time. If they don't after about 3 to 4 weeks, you should reconsider.