Running just TNE as a PW? No other drugs

[hcgfiend123456]

Has anybody ever ran solely TNE as a pre-workout? No other testosterone intake?

I have about 20-30lbs I need to drop before getting back on TRT/cycle and I was curious if it might be possible to supplement a bit.

 

[Photon]

What do you mean?
No test base?
Just TNE?

 

[Juicedhead]

Yeah I have. But in a cycle and it kicks pretty hard. Also can give bad sides depending on the person. Why not just run regular test?

 

[hcgfiend123456]

What do you mean?
No test base?
Just TNE?

Yes

 

[hcgfiend123456]

Yeah I have. But in a cycle and it kicks pretty hard. Also can give bad sides depending on the person. Why not just run regular test?

I need to get my BF% down before I get back on full time. Was wondering if I could just use it a few times a week prior to a workout to get a boost without crashing my T or having crazy sides. Idk. I know very little about it.

 

[1Megaman]

Why not just take a TRT dose of test, train, diet and cardio? That’s when I got in the best shape of my life 300mg of test, locked in diet training and cardio.

 

[hcgfiend123456]

Why not just take a TRT dose of test, train, diet and cardio? That’s when I got in the best shape of my life 300mg of test, locked in diet training and cardio.

At my current BF% I am aromatizing too heavily. Attempted to hop back on recently and was plauged with the same terrible sides I had towards the end of my first go around. I'm not crazy about trying to use an AI since my first go at this I did not need one and E2 wasn't an issue until I gained weight. Id rather just try and control 1 factor at a time. Currently on reta and dieting down rather quickly. Will be back on protocol within 8-12 weeks but until than I was wondering if sprinkling a little TNE might be useful. I'm probably just being terribly impatient.

 

[Flatriggerman]

Yes, I do inject 45mins pre for my leg workouts or when I need a kick in the ass to get in the gym. 50mg sometimes 75mg. The first few times it will be euphoric. More focus and more stamina. IMO it's not an every workout regimen due to diminishing returns. The first time was wild, locked in! I use during cycle and off.

 

[hcgfiend123456]

Yes, I do inject 45mins pre for my leg workouts or when I need a kick in the ass to get in the gym. 50mg sometimes 75mg. The first few times it will be euphoric. More focus and more stamina. IMO it's not an every workout regimen due to diminishing returns. The first time was wild, locked in! I use during cycle and off.

Interesting. When you say off do you mean not on any test at all or on a normal TRT dose.

 

[Flatriggerman]

Interesting. When you say off do you mean not on any test at all or on a normal TRT dose.

On trt and then blast/cycle. I just re-read your post. I can't answer off test totally but I'm sure it works the same or better. If you didn't have E2 issues on trt before you should be good. TNE is out quick.

 

[Photon]

Yes

I did

I ran EQ + Tren and did daily TNE shots PWO.
I had to inject e2 cyp cause I had close to no e2.

Only problem was that I work out at night and a huge bolus of T every night is just not good for sleep.

In general T spikes in the morning, so its best if you take it then.

You could just run TRT and a really small dose of EQ like 30mg a week tbh. I'd take a larger EQ shot at the start to saturate then start cutting it out somewhere around week 8 if your target is week 12.

Primo could work too.

 

[Juicedhead]

TNE can aromatize a lot. So the only reason you dont want to use a long acting test is because you BF is too high your saying?

 

[1Megaman]

TNE can aromatize a lot. So the only reason you dont want to use a long acting test is because you BF is too high your saying?

Was just going to say this. I would think TNE would cause you alot more peaks and valleys to make you over produce the e2. I would think a low/trt dose of test would be a lot more stable. What’s your natural test levels?

 

[hcgfiend123456]

Was just going to say this. I would think TNE would cause you alot more peaks and valleys to make you over produce the e2. I would think a low/trt dose of test would be a lot more stable. What’s your natural test levels?

High 200s. I honestly need to be on T to live normally but I gained a bunch of weight with my wife recently while she is prego and now I get too many fucking sides to be on it.

 

[hcgfiend123456]

Was just going to say this. I would think TNE would cause you alot more peaks and valleys to make you over produce the e2. I would think a low/trt dose of test would be a lot more stable. What’s your natural test levels?

Understood

 

[hcgfiend123456]

TNE can aromatize a lot. So the only reason you dont want to use a long acting test is because you BF is too high your saying?

Yes

 

[hcgfiend123456]

I did

I ran EQ + Tren and did daily TNE shots PWO.
I had to inject e2 cyp cause I had close to no e2.

Only problem was that I work out at night and a huge bolus of T every night is just not good for sleep.

In general T spikes in the morning, so its best if you take it then.

You could just run TRT and a really small dose of EQ like 30mg a week tbh. I'd take a larger EQ shot at the start to saturate then start cutting it out somewhere around week 8 if your target is week 12.

Primo could work too.

The 30mg EQ would suppress e2?

Thanks for your input

 

[Photon]

The 30mg EQ would suppress e2?

Thanks for your input

Whats your T shot?
1/4 of your weekly T shot should drop it for most people.

 

[hcgfiend123456]

Whats your T shot?
1/4 of your weekly T shot should drop it for most people.

100-120 when on TRT. You we're pretty spot on. Thanks for the tip sir.

 

[Flatriggerman]

High 200s. I honestly need to be on T to live normally but I gained a bunch of weight with my wife recently while she is prego and now I get too many fucking sides to be on it.

I'd rec reta 1mg every 3.5 days for 2 months and titrate up to 2mg every 3.5 days if needed. Let reta do its work. It takes time. Also, 100mg test 50mg every 3.5 days. If you can, break it up and inject everyday. If you want to get the trinity add 2-4iu hgh. 3-5 months of this and working out, you'll be a changed man.