What’s your sleep stack?

[Necessary Evil]

I just ordered 2 tubs of Dream Sleep from TBJP.

This formula has:

• L-Tryptophan: 750mg
• Mucuna Pruriens (20% L-Dopa): 500mg
• Valerian Root (10:1 Extract): 50mg
• Magnesium Bisglycinate: 500mg
• KSM-66 Ashwagandha: 400mg
• L-Theanine: 300mg
• 5-HTP: 300mg
• Zinc Methionine: 30mg
• Vitamin B6: 10mg

Has anyone here used this before?

Seems like a heavy stack for a non-benzo/non-Z-drug aid. I'm curious if the 5-HTP and L-Dopa combo actually helps with the "prep brain" or if it’s overkill. Any issues with grogginess or weird dreams?

 

[Proud Pangolin]

I just ordered 2 tubs of Dream Sleep from TBJP.

This formula has:

• L-Tryptophan: 750mg
• Mucuna Pruriens (20% L-Dopa): 500mg
• Valerian Root (10:1 Extract): 50mg
• Magnesium Bisglycinate: 500mg
• KSM-66 Ashwagandha: 400mg
• L-Theanine: 300mg
• 5-HTP: 300mg
• Zinc Methionine: 30mg
• Vitamin B6: 10mg

Has anyone here used this before?

Seems like a heavy stack for a non-benzo/non-Z-drug aid. I'm curious if the 5-HTP and L-Dopa combo actually helps with the "prep brain" or if it’s overkill. Any issues with grogginess or weird dreams?

Im not a fan of l-theanine. Why? because it induces alpha brain waves. Thats not very uselful for sleep. Its the frequenz in a relexed awake state or semisleep state. Ans what i noticed is that it somwwhat helps you fall asleep even though sleep is a mig stretch as you will stay in a semiwake state. Lile just begore fallimg asleep completely. However 300mg is a pretty low dosages.

Im also not thrilled about KSM-66 based on the fact that it affects some many things and Post Ashwaganda syndrom is a real thing. (Look it up). And why would you wnant more dopamine for sleep again? For slep serotonin is important, dopamine will keep you awake most of the time (see ritalin, Amphetamines, Cocain which all raise dopamine). Its not so simple becaus for example i get very tired when taking ritalin at least for the 30min it starts working however generally speaking its not a thing you really want or need to raise.for good sleep.

For falling asleep, melantonin is the king (however always choose a time release version because thats how melantonin works naturally. The problem with sprays, non trnpills etc. is that the will generate a short peak which falls very quickly. Instead of genratimg a consistemz level in melantonin lile your body does.) GABA is also nice.

For staying asleep see the sleeping stack i mentioned

 

[OrlandoFL]

Trazadone, Magnesium Glycinate, melatonin, and HGH before bed. Sometimes I throw in some Benadryl as well. Really, the Trazadone is the rockstar here and absolutely knocks me out even on moderately high Tren. 25mg does the trick.

 

[Ateam2023]

-6mg melantonin TIME RELEASE!!!(Very important)

-GABA 1500-3000mg

- Magnesiumbisglycinat
(i also tried magnesium threonate because there is actually a study proving it crossing the bloodbrain barrier, which we dont have for Bisglycinat because it simply was never tested however i didnt notice any difference besides in my wallet, i even liked the Bis better, which many people report. Take it right before turning off the lights for deeper sleep)

And now my BEST ADVISE and i SWEAR ON IT:

-3.0 Hz. Delta Waves!
Im using this one:

View: https://youtu.be/nkkJgdiR8IA


Thats about the frequency of your EEG waves during deep sleep. (0.5-4.0HZ)

First of all you fall faster asleep because you are conditioning yourself if you only play it when you are going to bed. And my sleep really improved, i have the feeling i sleep deeper.

Weirdly enough i dream a lot more on it! I havent dreamed for years before i started using this about 1 year ago.

You could also try Delta Sleep-Inducing Peptide

IMO/ime Dsip is complete junk

 

[heavymachinegunner]

So I’ve used PEDs for many years but recently I’ve been having issues sleeping. It’s mainly due to the stimulant abuse, and that the effects from it last even weeks after cessation. I use 5-6 ius hgh daily, melatonin nightly, try to time my circadian rhythm and avoid anything stimulant related before bed. I have not done a sleep study, I’m looking into the costs / availability.

My current cycle is 800mg test and the gh. I wanted to add EQ and a very low dose tren to supplement my growth but I really need this sleep dialed in. It’s catching up to me.

why tren if youre trying to sleep

 

[Proud Pangolin]

IMO/ime Dsip is complete junk

Possible. Havent tried it yet. My Epitalon just arrived buy i may have ordered not enough.

What i often noticed with peptides etc. is that people simpley wont take enough.

 

[Ateam2023]

Possible. Havent tried it yet. My Epitalon just arrived buy i may have ordered not enough.

What i often noticed with peptides etc. is that people simpley wont take enough.

I've tried the DSIP all the way up to 2 mg per night, it might work first night but then the next five I get nothing out of it, it was cheap enough, so it's not a big deal, I'd be interested to know how your epitalon experiment goes so please keep us informed especially on doses and length of time using it, tia

 

[Proud Pangolin]

I've tried the DSIP all the way up to 2 mg per night, it might work first night but then the next five I get nothing out of it, it was cheap enough, so it's not a big deal, I'd be interested to know how your epitalon experiment goes so please keep us informed especially on doses and length of time using it, tia

Im going to start it soon. Im also going to kick out every sleeping aid. As it is suppose to regulate your melantonin production its probably best to not pair it with melantonin.

Right now i have enough for 10mg for 10 days. However i should have probably bought enought to do 20mg for 20days

 

[OldOliver]

I started DSIP last week. Was waking up 3:00-3:30am like a typical old fart, then going back to sleep for a little while later in the morning. Not good and I was feeling like garbage.

Melatonin helps me fall asleep, but that’s it.

Anyway, I have been sleeping better/longer the last few nights since I started the DSIP, but we’ll see. Nothing to lose by trying. And yes, I know it doesn’t do anything for some folks. Seems like that’s the case for a lot of peptides.

But I am interested in seeing how that Epitalon goes for you. It’s good to have something on the back burner. Hope it works for you!

 

[Ateam2023]

I have been reducing my trazodone dose down, I’ve been taking 300 mg for the last 10 years or so and I think that it way too much and also my REM sleep has been suffering, which is something trazodone will do, so currently doing 200 mg per night (4 nights in) and already my REM sleep has increased quite a bit, my next drop will be down to 150 mg per night and we will see how that does, the main reason why I use trazodone is to put me to sleep because once I hit the pillow, my mind starts racing and it’s so hard for me to fall asleep, Current sleep stack is,
200 mg Trazadone
50 mg Apigenin
3 g Glycine
200 mg L theanine
210 mg Magnesium Bisglycinate

 

[Earthworm Jim]

I took pregabalin for the first time last night, not intending it as a sleep aid but for restless legs, and had one of the best sleeps ever. Wondering if the pregabalin had anything to do with that

 

[Photon]

I have been reducing my trazodone dose down, I’ve been taking 300 mg for the last 10 years or so and I think that it way too much and also my REM sleep has been suffering, which is something trazodone will do, so currently doing 200 mg per night (4 nights in) and already my REM sleep has increased quite a bit, my next drop will be down to 150 mg per night and we will see how that does, the main reason why I use trazodone is to put me to sleep because once I hit the pillow, my mind starts racing and it’s so hard for me to fall asleep, Current sleep stack is,
200 mg Trazadone
50 mg Apigenin
3 g Glycine
200 mg L theanine
210 mg Magnesium Bisglycinate

Does Apigenin work?