EO vs bad pin vs volume.

[oldage]

25% BA
5%BB

And their is the answer. Damn!

Lol, yay, and probably my issue was i wasnt worried?!? Then tried to guess what caused the edema and my wife's a floor nurse. So I think she is only worried about the worst possible outcomes. Infections in this case. The last time I didnt listen I ended up with spinal cord damage from delaying treatment for a year thinking the issue wasn't coming for my neck. And I think the doc just puts more rats in my head about carrier oil or EO.

Thanks for the input. Hope others pick up on this and Ill carry the info on.

Back to the important things. Food prep and picking things up and putting them down.

 

[oldage]

Fyi....

Modern pharma prefers cottonseed oil, sesame oil, castor oil. Its very uncommon to find EO being used nowadays. The reason being it can be more irritating, is more likely to cause PIP, allergy-like reactions, and is less stable long-term.

 

[bananafeet]

25% BA
5%BB

And their is the answer. Damn!

Lol, yay, and probably my issue was i wasnt worried?!? Then tried to guess what caused the edema and my wife's a floor nurse. So I think she is only worried about the worst possible outcomes. Infections in this case. The last time I didnt listen I ended up with spinal cord damage from delaying treatment for a year thinking the issue wasn't coming for my neck. And I think the doc just puts more rats in my head about carrier oil or EO.

Thanks for the input. Hope others pick up on this and Ill carry the info on.

Back to the important things. Food prep and picking things up and putting them down.

Haha you know the nebido/test undeca is 50% BB lol

So yeah that's probably it bro. I pinned the same amount of gear in one day but I split it up over 4 different injection sites. It's just regular dosed gear too.

Stay away from the blends or the high dose gear. EO actually allows the manufacturer to use less solvent (BB) and so does Arachis oil.

Which is ironic because they are both hated on the internet....

 

[Billbo98]

It's not OPs fault. Life is always the most simple explanation.

People always worry about the wrong metrics.

Agreed too much shit info out there now

 

[BigDadd7]

EO gives me pip every single time

 

[HeatherSwanson]

Ya, synthetic testosterone vs bioidentical. Apparently known to cause bad PIP and swelling. The fact that I pinned 700mg the first go and 100mg the 2nd time..... the first pin was rough. Thats the leg with edema currently.

Probably gonna do things a little bit different next time, like not grabbing the wrong AAS. I have 30 vials per case and one was in the wrong spot. Live and learn. ive already relabeled to make sure that won't happen agian.

I once got quite bad edema when I poked myself with 300mg? 1.5ml test c around 10 years ago. It was 2am after a 17 hour day after a hot shower and thought "is the needle on an angle? Nahhhh" banged it anyway, to tired to make the correct decision.

Its manifested as red swelling that also traveled down my thigh to my anckle. It was about 7/10 pain day 2 and worked a half day (worked for three days with a ruptured appendix) which isn't normal. Almost no muscle soreness and was our of commission full for 7ish days.

That vial was 2 shots in and was confident enough it was not contaminated I used the rest of it no issue.

You might have gone between the fascia and done a SubQ / quad shot, just a thought.

Speedy recovery big dawg, hope it settles out, we got lives, fast bikes to prepare for summer, with faster girls.

 

[Billbo98]

EO gives me pip every single time

Really? Even Indian pharma ? It’s so thin I couldn’t see it giving a whole lot unless you injected a lot fast

 

[BigDadd7]

Really? Even Indian pharma ? It’s so thin I couldn’t see it giving a whole lot unless you injected a lot fast

All of it. I've been doing this for a decade plus. Maybe I'm allergic.

 

[HeatherSwanson]

Really? Even Indian pharma ? It’s so thin I couldn’t see it giving a whole lot unless you injected a lot fast

The Indian pharma injects are spicey because of the tumeric

 

[monster8912]

Next time you wanna pin a 700mg shot, split it in 2 different sites lol hope you feel better

 

[Billbo98]

All of it. I've been doing this for a decade plus. Maybe I'm allergic.

Damn. Yeah possibly for sure.

 

[Billbo98]

The Indian pharma injects are spicey because of the tumeric

Smells like curry! Mmmm

 

[trtchin]

The Indian pharma injects are spicey because of the tumeric

True. I was supplementing curcumin but switched to Indian oils

 

[Billbo98]

True. I was supplementing curcumin but switched to Indian oils

Ahh yes…A man of culture I see

 

[DadBod1117]

Just sharing some info about my experience with some recent gear. Think I have it figured out but maybe some more experiments to come.

Little info: started pinning new gear for the start of a new cycle. I am on TRT+ and this is my first run at higher volumes. Using ratios that have worked for me at lower doses.

I like the idea of front loading. So first pin was 700mg/2.8ml TC into my left quad. I like pinning quads and delts. Nice and smooth. Nothing out of ordinary. 2nd day noticed some PIP and stiffness. Nothing bad. 3rd day, wholly hell. My quad was swollen and bad pip. No redness, no signs of infection, not hot to touch. As time went on and into the forth day my leg was swollen like I had been stung by a bee but pip had gone down.

Now not being to smart I decided i fucked up the pin somehow. So on the 3rd day I pinned 100mg TC, 250mg Primo, and 200mg NPP. (1.6ml roughly) Same thing happened to my right quad. And now Im sapposed to go to a EOD pinning. I should note I have pinned all 3 of these from the same source in much smaller amounts every 3rd day and never seen a reaction. The vial of TC I had already previously been using.

Because of these reactions I switched over my product to another source. 70mg Primo/60mg NPP, 100mg TC, every other day. And because both quads are messed up (leg day was brutal), I pinned my delts. About 1ml. No reaction once I switched over vendors.

I am not sure if I messed up two pins royally, my body hates EO, or its the volume that got me.

Bro, some can and some cannot use your quads I’ve done it twice and was unable to walk both times. I never do my quads that may be a place not good for you pinning so much volume, a dose of TRT probably wouldn’t notice but, almost 3 mills of gear in your thigh. Come on bro your nutrition, the food the sleep and what you do in the gym is what matters you don’t need all that gear a little goes a long way you’re just wasting it. It’s hard to believe if your legs swollen up and was hurting that bad because I know it hurt I find it hard to believe that there was no redness around the area of the injection.

 

[oldage]

There was some redness. But the swelling was edema. Allergic reaction. Much like if u get stung by a bee and u swell up. I am chalking this up to user error! Bad technique, not ideal location, high volume........ 1ml per site location and I see no issue. I've gone back to the original oils in my delts. No issues. Im also at 1ml total volume. The volume I used was a front load.

Thanks for advice. I agree with food, sleep, and training being the core of all results. I spout it being 90% of results we get and food being 80%.

And the food battle is real! Eating 3,500 to 4k per day. The most expensive part of this hobby is the food.
dont tell anyone

 

[oldage]

There was some redness. But the swelling was edema. Allergic reaction. Much like if u get stung by a bee and u swell up. I am chalking this up to user error! Bad technique, not ideal location, high volume........ 1ml per site location and I see no issue. I've gone back to the original oils in my delts. No issues. Im also at 1ml total volume. The volume I used was a front load.

Thanks for advice. I agree with food, sleep, and training being the core of all results. I spout it being 90% of results we get and food being 80%.


And the food battle is real! Eating 3,500 to 4k per day. The most expensive part of this hobby is the food.
dont tell anyone

This is also my first mass gain attempt. Had surgery in late October and lost a lot of muscle and thinned right out. So been building back until this month.

Previously Last three years have been TRT or a low dose crusie experiments 100mg deca and 100mg Primo. Monitor blood, mood, and general response. 300mg was highest test level. Sides kick in at 300mg test.