PCT after a 20-week testosterone cycle.

[iwantashotasap]

In a few weeks I will finish a 20-week cycle of testosterone at 250 mg. During the last 5 weeks of this cycle I used 20 mg of Anavar. From what I’ve researched, I should run about 6–8 weeks of clomiphene and tamoxifen. However, since it was a “long” cycle, maybe you could recommend additional things. During the cycle I did not use HCG

What do you think would be the best strategy to carry out PCT in the most effective way?

 

[Dohtem22]

Prayer

 

[iwantashotasap]

Bump

 

[Alert_Custard]

Option 1. Take tamoxifen until recovered. Might be 6 weeks, might be 8, might be 12...

Option 2. Go on trt and don't bother with PCT

 

[iwantashotasap]

Option 1. Take tamoxifen until recovered. Might be 6 weeks, might be 8, might be 12...

Option 2. Go on trt and don't bother with PCT

I don’t know. If I start TRT, I would basically be giving up on the idea of ever recovering my natural hormonal axis, right? And I’d also be committing to blast and cruise. I’m 18, so I’m not sure.

 

[Alert_Custard]

I don’t know. If I start TRT, I would basically be giving up on the idea of ever recovering my natural hormonal axis, right? And I’d also be committing to blast and cruise. I’m 18, so I’m not sure.

You are right. I assumed you were older.
Then just take tamoxifen 20mg a day for as long as needed. Keep it simple. Do a blood test after 6 or 8 weeks and see where you are at. If estrogen is high, take a small amount of AI, it will help with recovery. But don't take too much.

I started gear a lot older than that, so never cared about PCT.

 

[iwantashotasap]

Thank you very much. I could also order clomiphene — do you think it would be important to add it as well, or should I maybe order HCG instead?

 

[Adi18]

I don’t know. If I start TRT, I would basically be giving up on the idea of ever recovering my natural hormonal axis, right? And I’d also be committing to blast and cruise. I’m 18, so I’m not sure.

Honestly at 18 you shouldn't be touching gear. But you will always. So what is your plan after? Are you going to do another cycle? If you are, when? It will have alot of impact on the advice. But honestly you shouldn't be touching gear until 25 earliest. You still aren't done growing.
You should also read the rules and make an introduction post. I dont mean to come off as a douche but you dont even understand the difference between hcg and clomiphene. Hint, they do completely different things.

 

[Cman90]

Honestly at 18 you shouldn't be touching gear.

Cats already out of the bag.

I could also order clomiphene

I would highly recommend this. Except order Enclomephine instead, it's a purified isomer of clomephine, which will have fewer sides.

Enclomephine will help kickstart your HPG axis with greater FSH and LH stimulation than tamoxifen.

What was your experience with 250 test? I would imagine the gains weren't that significant compared to your natural 18 year old endocrine system pumping androgens and hgh through your body.

 

[nasi]

why shutdown for trt+ when you couldve just ran a real cycle or stayed natural lol

 

[iwantashotasap]

Honestly at 18 you shouldn't be touching gear. But you will always. So what is your plan after? Are you going to do another cycle? If you are, when? It will have alot of impact on the advice. But honestly you shouldn't be touching gear until 25 earliest. You still aren't done growing.
You should also read the rules and make an introduction post. I dont mean to come off as a douche but you dont even understand the difference between hcg and clomiphene. Hint, they do completely different things.

Obviously, I know they are different things. I’m just asking, which would be the best choice if I can only choose one of the two?

 

[iwantashotasap]

What was your experience with 250 test? I would imagine the gains weren't that significant compared to your natural 18 year old endocrine system pumping androgens and hgh through your body.

Yepp

 

[Psy-chonaut]

Mate, what are you doing?

- It looks like you really dont enjoy the 'ego fight within' aka.beating yourself / k!lling yourself in training at all.....

(Just one of my retard stories)
When I was 16 I was OCD in beating myself in 'sit-up' numbers - I reached 500 then some months later I crossed 1000, 1500, and then one day I spent so much time I made it to 2000 ( I then concluded, that with these numbers and the amount of time I used on it, I was just stupid - so I kept it around 600-800 reps.... Lmao)

But the following summer, I got so many "wtf are you doing" from friends and girls, and they pointed to my stomach ....
In beating my own numbers 'over and over' again, I had apparently been working my ass off, for some ABS with a couple of veins...

I was natural ( no Eaa's or creatine either), I didn't know what diet was - but I was willing to work haaaard, all alone....

'You' have to focus on training and learn what working HARD means (-> you will feel sick), instead of the drugs, or else nothing will shine - I ain't seeing it Mate, sorry.....

 

[Adi18]

Obviously, I know they are different things. I’m just asking, which would be the best choice if I can only choose one of the two?

Sounds like money is an issue as you should use both. Again what are your plans after this? Do another cycle or stay off, and if you're going to do another how long are you waiting. Because you aren't going to maintain your gains naturally. We're looking out for your best interests when we tell you to not touch gear until you're 25 or so.