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I also think that lowering the amount produces more potential clients who might order bigger afterwards.
Dutch has a good enough reputation that I don't think it matters. For resellers a 200moa is literally nothing. John isn't skipping much business with this.


-someone that could barely scrap together the 150 minimum already lol
 
@Dutch Labs

Hi, you always seem to be out of stock when I look around on your website. I want to order a full stack at once so my question is - can I order oils in advance?

Also, a blend of test/mast/npp would be nice.

Cheers
 
Is there perhaps a possibility of introducing Anavar as 25mg tablets?
It's planned.

200 Euro minimal order amount, really? What’s the reason for that?
Less parcels less potential problems and too high demand to justify lower value orders (time). It will stay like this for a while.

It's not great when a lot of products are out of stock and the min order amount is hard to reach because of that, but that will become better the coming weeks.

That being said, if you want to make a first order, contact me via our website to request for the min order amount to be lowered, I will sent you a link that does it.

@Dutch Labs ever consider injectable L-Carnitine?
Planned, but other priorities currently.

@Dutch Labs

Hi, you always seem to be out of stock when I look around on your website. I want to order a full stack at once so my question is - can I order oils in advance?

Also, a blend of test/mast/npp would be nice.

Cheers
No pre-orders. Most products will come back soon.

Like I said, the raws situation is being fixed currently, but it takes time to get the materials in my possession and to get them tested, then get the product brewed and into vials etc. We don't want to overly hurry things to prevent mistakes too.

As for multi compound blends, I rather not make them since people will always want different ratios when mixing different compounds. I have some compound specific blends coming, like nand mix and some test blends.
 
3rd order. Everything is perfect again.
Delivery is fast, Dutch labs boss is really nice and arrangeable as usual. Again cannot say something bad about this lab. Best European lab.
 

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It's planned.


Less parcels less potential problems and too high demand to justify lower value orders (time). It will stay like this for a while.

It's not great when a lot of products are out of stock and the min order amount is hard to reach because of that, but that will become better the coming weeks.

That being said, if you want to make a first order, contact me via our website to request for the min order amount to be lowered, I will sent you a link that does it.


Planned, but other priorities currently.


No pre-orders. Most products will come back soon.

Like I said, the raws situation is being fixed currently, but it takes time to get the materials in my possession and to get them tested, then get the product brewed and into vials etc. We don't want to overly hurry things to prevent mistakes too.

As for multi compound blends, I rather not make them since people will always want different ratios when mixing different compounds. I have some compound specific blends coming, like nand mix and some test blends.
Hows the stock situation looking now? Any progress?
Not to sound impatient of course, just waiting for NPP.
 
I can only report positive experiences: 3 successful deliveries with outstandingly fast shipping times (I’m also based in Western Europe, like the lab itself). The Tren Ace is excellent – no issues with PIP and the effects kicked in very quickly. Communication has been super friendly, and I’m more than happy with the vendor.
 
Test C + E 400 and Test C 250 have been tested and I have the results. Both came out under dosed, still within the 5% error margin that Janoshik gives for the results.

However, the gap between the Test C and E in the C+E 400 brew made me ask for a retest, since it would mean the raws are ~92% and ~90% purity in reality instead of 96%+ which they both tested at, and would be unlikely.

They are being put it in vials anyway since it's still in acceptable range(if results are correct), so these are coming next week.

For Test E 250 and Test E 400, we're still waiting for the results.
 
Test C + E 400 and Test C 250 have been tested and I have the results. Both came out under dosed, still within the 5% error margin that Janoshik gives for the results.

However, the gap between the Test C and E in the C+E 400 brew made me ask for a retest, since it would mean the raws are ~92% and ~90% purity in reality instead of 96%+ which they both tested at, and would be unlikely.

They are being put it in vials anyway since it's still in acceptable range(if results are correct), so these are coming next week.

For Test E 250 and Test E 400, we're still waiting for the results.
The results are still good and within the expected range.

Unfortunately, you see and hear about this more and more often now...
something's strange about the tests.
 
Test C + E 400 and Test C 250 have been tested and I have the results. Both came out under dosed, still within the 5% error margin that Janoshik gives for the results.

However, the gap between the Test C and E in the C+E 400 brew made me ask for a retest, since it would mean the raws are ~92% and ~90% purity in reality instead of 96%+ which they both tested at, and would be unlikely.

They are being put it in vials anyway since it's still in acceptable range(if results are correct), so these are coming next week.

For Test E 250 and Test E 400, we're still waiting for the results.
If I may ask (please tell me to fuck off at anytime) did you slightly overdosed the test C and E blend and so the overdose + the alleged underdose would account more or less for a total 8% underdose if you had only corrected for purity?

If you didn't overdose at all and just corrected for purity would that bring an average underdose of 6%?
 
If I may ask (please tell me to fuck off at anytime) did you slightly overdosed the test C and E blend and so the overdose + the alleged underdose would account more or less for a total 8% underdose if you had only corrected for purity?

If you didn't overdose at all and just corrected for purity would that bring an average underdose of 6%?
You seem to be asking what exact percentage I used to overdose.

For the C + E brew I assumed 96% raws purity and targeted both compounds at 203 mg/ml for 406 mg/ml total, which is a 1.5% overdose. Small overdose, but it's ok for 96%+ since there is room there since it's a range, especially with 2 compounds, worse case it's actually 96% or 95% in reality, which still would be fine.

The result for Test C+E 400: Test C 196.75 mg/ml (3.08% underdose) and for Test E 191 mg/ml (5.91% underdose) (4.50% underdose total).

The result for the test C 250: 243 mg/ml (aimed at 254 mg/ml) which would be a ~ 4.33% underdose based on that result and corrolates somewhat with the result of the Test C in the Test C + E batch.

Now let's assume the Test C results are correct, that means the raws were ~ 92% purity and the raws test result was wrong, which would be possible maybe.. but not likely.

Like I mentioned both Test E and C raws were tested at 96%+. Raws look very good and homogenous, I am sure the raws purity test result is correct for the test E, it seems of very good quality, that I why I asked for a retest because it came out lower than the Test C even.

I know these results are still mostly within error margins, but Janoshik has said 2% margin for common AAS oils is more realistic.

Measuring mistake (too much oil added or something) is highly unlikely, especially with 2 separate batches.
 
You seem to be asking what exact percentage I used to overdose.

For the C + E brew I assumed 96% raws purity and targeted both compounds at 203 mg/ml for 406 mg/ml total, which is a 1.5% overdose. Small overdose, but it's ok for 96%+ since there is room there since it's a range, especially with 2 compounds, worse case it's actually 96% or 95% in reality, which still would be fine.

The result for Test C+E 400: Test C 196.75 mg/ml (3.08% underdose) and for Test E 191 mg/ml (5.91% underdose) (4.50% underdose total).

The result for the test C 250: 243 mg/ml (aimed at 254 mg/ml) which would be a ~ 4.33% underdose based on that result and corrolates somewhat with the result of the Test C in the Test C + E batch.

Now let's assume the Test C results are correct, that means the raws were ~ 92% purity and the raws test result was wrong, which would be possible maybe.. but not likely.

Like I mentioned both Test E and C raws were tested at 96%+. Raws look very good and homogenous, I am sure the raws purity test result is correct for the test E, it seems of very good quality, that I why I asked for a retest because it came out lower than the Test C even.

I know these results are still mostly within error margins, but Janoshik has said 2% margin for common AAS oils is more realistic.

Measuring mistake (too much oil added or something) is highly unlikely, especially with 2 separate batches.
I'm experiencing the same issue. 96% test C raw, overdosed 3% and corrected for purity came back 4.5% underdosed.

Trying to wrap my head around it and it is curious you are experiencing something similar.

My test C raws looks just great, no clumps, almost no chemical smell and they dissolve quickly and zero trace of shit in it not like other raws, filter smooth without cloggin the filter almost at all. So I do believe the purity test is correct same as you do.
 
You seem to be asking what exact percentage I used to overdose.

For the C + E brew I assumed 96% raws purity and targeted both compounds at 203 mg/ml for 406 mg/ml total, which is a 1.5% overdose. Small overdose, but it's ok for 96%+ since there is room there since it's a range, especially with 2 compounds, worse case it's actually 96% or 95% in reality, which still would be fine.

The result for Test C+E 400: Test C 196.75 mg/ml (3.08% underdose) and for Test E 191 mg/ml (5.91% underdose) (4.50% underdose total).

The result for the test C 250: 243 mg/ml (aimed at 254 mg/ml) which would be a ~ 4.33% underdose based on that result and corrolates somewhat with the result of the Test C in the Test C + E batch.

Now let's assume the Test C results are correct, that means the raws were ~ 92% purity and the raws test result was wrong, which would be possible maybe.. but not likely.

Like I mentioned both Test E and C raws were tested at 96%+. Raws look very good and homogenous, I am sure the raws purity test result is correct for the test E, it seems of very good quality, that I why I asked for a retest because it came out lower than the Test C even.

I know these results are still mostly within error margins, but Janoshik has said 2% margin for common AAS oils is more realistic.

Measuring mistake (too much oil added or something) is highly unlikely, especially with 2 separate batches.

In this case, is it possible that the claim Janó mentioned in one of the threads is true — that raw material suppliers try to cheat by packing the powder in such a way that the top layer has higher purity, so if a sample is taken from the top it gives a good test result, but if the raw material is thoroughly mixed and then sent for testing, the result is worse?
I personally don’t find this very likely, but I’m curious about your opinions.
 
I'm experiencing the same issue. 96% test C raw, overdosed 3% and corrected for purity came back 4.5% underdosed.

Trying to wrap my head around it and it is curious you are experiencing something similar.

My test C raws looks just great, no clumps, almost no chemical smell and they dissolve quickly and zero trace of shit in it not like other raws, filter smooth without cloggin the filter almost at all. So I do believe the purity test is correct same as you do.
If it was only the Test C alone I could have accepted it, maybe the purity is just lower in reality. But the test E should not be that low.

In this case, is it possible that the claim Janó mentioned in one of the threads is true — that raw material suppliers try to cheat by packing the powder in such a way that the top layer has higher purity, so if a sample is taken from the top it gives a good test result, but if the raw material is thoroughly mixed and then sent for testing, the result is worse?
I personally don’t find this very likely, but I’m curious about your opinions.
I think I mentioned this theory here as well. But I mix everything well before taking a sample, so it's unlikely.
 
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