First cycle questions

[delay3s]

The body also stores excess levels of fat even though starvation is largely a thing of the past in the first world. Biohacking just to follow the rules? I don't think so.

I never understood getting on peds just to try to mimic the bodies natural processes. Like do you want to be enhanced or not? take advantage of a constant elevation of testosterone and androgens in your system

 

[adrenalytic]

true, just speculation from my part lol

Ya, I'm not trying to shit on you, just presenting this lifestyle from a different angle that you might not have considered. Make no mistake, this is a lifestyle, not a weekend retreat.

 

[the_pope]

Ah I see what you’re saying, good point. I honestly didn’t even really know that test p caused more fluctuations I just was thinking about more frequent pins. It is true that obviously having more stable levels at all times will gove you an advantage muscle building wise, but I’d also say there’s some arguments that it’s worth to purposefully do that for some people, because there definitely is a reason the hormone system is built the way it is, so there could be some long term issues having high test levels 247, idk though

Fluctuation theories apart, I highly encourage you to use a longer ester. Firstly, Test P gives terrible pip to some people. Your dose isn't high, so you might avoid this, but there is a non zero chance of significant pip. Higher than with other esters, for sure.

And because timing the bloods while on P is harder than on a longer ester, your test levels will vary a lot depending on when your bloods are drawn and how long after your last injection.

It's better to take a more stable ester in order to have a good record of how you aromatise at a given level of test. This will be useful in future cycles.

Other minor thing is higher fluctuation also results in more acne, in my experience.

 

[Dhtcoper123]

Fluctuation theories apart, I highly encourage you to use a longer ester. Firstly, Test P gives terrible pip to some people. Your dose isn't high, so you might avoid this, but there is a non zero chance of significant pip. Higher than with other esters, for sure.

And because timing the bloods while on P is harder than on a longer ester, your test levels will vary a lot depending on when your bloods are drawn and how long after your last injection.

It's better to take a more stable ester in order to have a good record of how you aromatise at a given level of test. This will be useful in future cycles.

Other minor thing is higher fluctuation also results in more acne, in my experience.

But if I want to pin say every other day, can I still use a longer esther?

 

[IndividualMan]

always use a longer ester for test.

 

[Nick_Vaz]

But if I want to pin say every other day, can I still use a longer esther?

I pin cyp everyday. prop is just looksmaxxing tictok bullshit. it has its purposes for fixing crashed estrogen when using compounds that have an AI effect but would never use that shit for my TRT or cycle. Plus prop is usually 100mg/ml versus 200/250 that cyp and E usually is, gotta push more oil everyday for the same shit.

 

[trtchin]

Doesn't Derek/MPMD own Merrick Health?

Modern influencers are all tied to HRT clinics and the most they can prescribe is 250 or 300 mg I believe which is why they all push these low dose cycles now.

 

[SmallTitsIRL]

Everyone here has a point to some extent.

I'm giving my 2 cents and ¼ of a cent.
Start at 250mg or even 200mg, it's TRT+ at that point, lower possibility of side effects, it's your first time you do not want to deal with side effects.
Do test P, C or E even D or U, it's test. If you're okay pinning ED it's fine the aromatisation isn't that different from ester to ester at low dose.
If 200mg is doing it's job 4-8 weeks later increase by 50-100mg, and keeping doing that as long as you want/bloodwork looks good.

This game is not a 100m sprint, it's a marathon. And you have to be healthy, start low, increase slowly, do bloodwork as often as you can. Keep an AI on hand if you think of increasing dosages.
Do your cardio, eat your veggies. And you're g2g

 

[trtchin]

Everyone here has a point to some extent.

I'm giving my 2 cents and ¼ of a cent.
Start at 250mg or even 200mg, it's TRT+ at that point, lower possibility of side effects, it's your first time you do not want to deal with side effects.
Do test P, C or E even D or U, it's test. If you're okay pinning ED it's fine the aromatisation isn't that different from ester to ester at low dose.
If 200mg is doing it's job 4-8 weeks later increase by 50-100mg, and keeping doing that as long as you want/bloodwork looks good.

This game is not a 100m sprint, it's a marathon. And you have to be healthy, start low, increase slowly, do bloodwork as often as you can. Keep an AI on hand if you think of increasing dosages.
Do your cardio, eat your veggies. And you're g2g

Not sure why you gave my post a dislike but I think your advice is solid. Just wanted to clarify that users should be careful taking advice from influences that may have financial reasons behind such advice.

Personally i did my first cycle at 350 to start and ended at 450 and all was fine with some E2 management in place.

 

[SmallTitsIRL]

Not sure why you gave my post a dislike but I think your advice is solid. Just wanted to clarify that users should be careful taking advice from influences that may have financial reasons behind such advice.

Personally i did my first cycle at 350 to start and ended at 450 and all was fine with some E2 management in place.

Not sure either to be honest.
Yes, taking advice from influencer is a double edge sword and that's why you have to do your own research.

My first cycle was bonkers haha 250 test 200 mast and 40 var. That's mainly why I push the start low and titrate up narrative.

 

[psauce]

250 is just barely over TRT levels. And from your intro post, you're 25. Being that young, 250 is probably just a replacement dose more than anything. Definitely not a cycle.

Please take this in the spirit in which it's intended, but this blanketly incorrect.

If one injects 100 mg of test-c or test-e IM one time weekly, he will have a serum peak above the reference range for maybe 12-18 hours.

At 250 mg, one is very squarely in the recreational performance enhancing range.

Absent a medical condition causing androgen receptor insensitivity, 250 mg/wk is a hefty dose, many times larger than replacement.