Well Wise Supplements

[Photon]

Regarding labels: some clients have requested labels,

What labels can we request for?

 

[MarkWellWise]

No I'm not saying this, I'm saying in the past the batches we received from the same factory were inconsistent. We had one batch for example that tested well fresh from the fsctory and 1 month later the same kits we tested started degrading quite quick and tested not at all like we expected.

Did we get a classic bait and switch? Like we bought few kits tested well then when we ordered 500+ kits we got shit? I'm not sure.

In my opinion it was more like they didn't get the formulation of the GH well and it degraded quite a lot after a bit, it's something thst can be seen with peptides in general, fresh batch test awesome few weeks later purity etc goes down the drain.

I can't predict future producrs, I'm just reporting my experience with the factory.

LET IT BE CLEAR I NEVER DEALT WITH MARK WELL, I HAVE DEALT WITH ANOTHER RESELLER THAT SELLS THE SAME PRODUCTS FROM THE SAME FACTORY, BUT IT WASN'T MARK.

there are many all reselling from there, Lola is another one for example, can be found on TG.

Peptides something is another one, I gotta check the name too many fucking names.

It does look a bit sketchy tho when he post the labtest of the 10IU HGH and then send a completely different batch.

I rest my case anyway, I would suggest just to take the offer of testing but wait a bit before doing so, let thst HGH sit few weeks and then test it.

I srsly hope they got it right because getting 98% purity low dimer is what we all want and we have no problem paying good money for it... But it must be what it is advertised, without any surprises.

Hey man, thanks for your input.

I just wanted to chime in a bit on this to see if we can take some stuff into consideration that perhaps may help us all?

is my understanding that GH is obviously one of, if not, the most delicate peptide when it comes to light, heat, moisture and movement.
My understanding about that order you referring to, was that a few boxes were sent and half were detained, and then reshipped.
Could it be that it was a different batch with the same cap vials that was resent from a lower quality, and grabbed out of the shelf to ship it faster?
that is option one in my eyes.
Option two is, how possible is that bad handling of shipping company was to blame for the quick degradation of the GH?

You mention this happening with Peptides, and its true if there is bad sequencing. however, with GH is my understanding, that it's a bit different, if a first test shows 98% purity, and the product is properly it shouldn't go down that quickly. however bad stability buffers or combinations still a possibility and a reality.

In my case again, I have put a post of a freshly made batch, customers can take advantage of my policy and continue to test, obviously, some variance is expected with shipping at time of storage. but a rapid variance indicates something different, either a different batch or a badly produced one, however what makes the first option stronger in my mind, is the fact that there is a good test at the beginning, and a rapid decrease a few weeks after, either the vials been exposed to light and shaked, or the vials althought they look the same, theycould be from a different batch

 

[AlexDavis43]

btw your fsctory produced awesome HGH the first time we bought it with a test same. As. The one you posted. Then when we retested the same HGH 3 weeks later, it had lost 3+% purity and had high dimer content.

That much of a decline in only 3 weeks

Is there a theory on how this might have occurred?

Bad batches typically test bad from the first test; not used to seeing rapid decline in quality (unless it was within testing error range)

 

[MarkWellWise]

That much of a decline in only 3 weeks

Is there a theory on how this might have occurred?

Bad batches typically test bad from the first test; not used to seeing rapid decline in quality (unless it was within testing error range)

this is what I meant, the fact that there is a test showing good results at first, and that some parts of the orders were seized, for me its more credible that probably the products were looking the same but not the same?

 

[AlexDavis43]

is my understanding that GH is obviously one of, if not, the most delicate peptide when it comes to light, heat, moisture and movement.

Not really

Search Lobster's thread where GH was tested and storage conditions didn't really impact GH purity or dimer

There are Jano tests

 

[MarkWellWise]

Not really

Search Lobster's thread where GH was tested and storage conditions didn't really impact GH purity or dimer

There are Jano tests

Interesting!, will definitely have a browse.
This is why i am a big believer of testing, at the end of the day, most people will end up putting these things in their body, I do my part as vendor, I provide my end of the bargain by giving you a test. then the other part should be the client testing themselves, for extra security.
and again, to make up for it, i provide store credit or a refund

 

[xh0m3br3w]

First of 2 orders arrived today. 15th ordered, 29th delivered. Packaged well. Just a few kits, mast e 200, eq 200. All unlabeled white top vials, crystal clear. No visible floaters or anything. Pretty satisfied so far. Probably wait for my second order and send it off to jano.

 

[AlexDavis43]

Interesting!, will definitely have a browse.
This is why i am a big believer of testing, at the end of the day, most people will end up putting these things in their body, I do my part as vendor, I provide my end of the bargain by giving you a test. then the other part should be the client testing themselves, for extra security.
and again, to make up for it, i provide store credit or a refund

There was a lot going on in that thread, have a browse

 

[S1L3NC3D]

Hey man,
From the beginning, I clearly stated that testing had been ordered for the new GH batch. When people asked me about quality (via email or Telegram), I explained that it would be best to wait until testing was completed. However, for those who still chose to order, I guaranteed a minimum of 96% purity and less than 1% dimer, noting that pharmaceutical standards allow up to 4% dimer.


I also advised many clients, some of whom I hope may come forward and confirm, that it would be better to purchase once our internal testing was complete.
The same situation applied to the peptides, as at that time we did not yet have in-house testing results for them.
Despite this, some people chose to proceed with purchases of both GH and peptides, which of course was their decision.


....... if testing shows purity below 96% or dimer above 1%, I will take care of it.

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Mark , Sir. Not trying to argue with you or make you look bad . Not my intentions . Apologies if you took it this way

In our correspondence by email, I was not told to wait for testing , internal testing or anything else to be frank. You just said that you apologize for not responding for a few days because you had clients come inspect your facility. So please dont try to make me look like some impatient kid that you have explained to wait and I still wanted to purchase against your best advice.

In fairness your are a new vendor that hasn't established himself yet here, so of course there will be doubts. In fairness also , I understand you are working on establishing yourself and this take time. I am , as others here im sure are willing to make purchases from you ans build these relationships.

I am interested in spending money with you, but a guarantee of 96% and 1% dimer , or less , doesn't interest me to buy just yet.

I am patient and willing to wait.

I wish you and your business success!

 

[newguy2]

First of 2 orders arrived today. 15th ordered, 29th delivered. Packaged well. Just a few kits, mast e 200, eq 200. All unlabeled white top vials, crystal clear. No visible floaters or anything. Pretty satisfied so far. Probably wait for my second order and send it off to jano.

2 weeks is pretty sweet for international.

 

[BendigoShafter]

I just want test base and tren base brewed with no guaiacol. Any chance of adding either of those @MarkWellWise ?

 

[setters]

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My group of friends has been buying for many months in bulk from the same place he is reselling stuff, from another individual that claims the same stuff Mark claims. They are all playing the same book and the supplier has been very inconsistent on quite a few of the products sold. HGH being one of it.

Well that’s unfortunate to hear since this source keeps getting pre-sold with promises of 98% and no dimer

 

[xh0m3br3w]

2 weeks is pretty sweet for international.

Yeah im impressed. My second order showed up in my informed delivery 6 hours after I made it as well.

 

[MarkWellWise]

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Mark , Sir. Not trying to argue with you or make you look bad . Not my intentions . Apologies if you took it this way

In our correspondence by email, I was not told to wait for testing , internal testing or anything else to be frank. You just said that you apologize for not responding for a few days because you had clients come inspect your facility. So please dont try to make me look like some impatient kid that you have explained to wait and I still wanted to purchase against your best advice.

In fairness your are a new vendor that hasn't established himself yet here, so of course there will be doubts. In fairness also , I understand you are working on establishing yourself and this take time. I am , as others here im sure are willing to make purchases from you ans build these relationships.

I am interested in spending money with you, but a guarantee of 96% and 1% dimer , or less , doesn't interest me to buy just yet.

I am patient and willing to wait.

I wish you and your business success!

Oh man I wasn't referring to you in particular at all, in all honesty you contacted me way after the COA was available and hence why you did not received this advice from me, as I expressed above all the GH we are sending after the COA, is the same that is represented in the the COA.
So you should expect that quality

So I wasn't referring to you as an impatient person at all! I seriously apologize if I came across this way.
I was trying to explain the whole back ground of the whole GH being different to the one on the COA, with the few people who received, and this is because they ordered before the COA's

So yes, to assure you now, and this is not a dishonest statement from my end, if you order any minute after we uploaded COA on meso, you will receive the same caps and the same quality on the COA's and if by any chance, there is a incredible variance as it was noted before by @Sampei, I will refund you the product and the cost of testing.

 

[MarkWellWise]

Well that’s unfortunate to hear since this source keeps getting pre-sold with promises of 98% and no dimer

Can you please point to me where I have promise this to anyone?

 

[Missingintheabyss]

Can you please point to me where I have promise this to anyone?

There's a cohort of people online who seem like to make things up to get angry about. Unsure if it's an overactive imagination, being disingenuous, or confusing one company with another

 

[dasking]

Glad you got yours. Ive been waiting.. Ordered a pack and tracking hasnt updated since the 20th.

same here, except I got my tracking that day ish.. assuming its for when it hits America. I think I ordered the 17th or 18th or close 2 it.

I lied it just passed customs