Bedtime HGH Bolus

[AlexDavis43]

Fair, honestly I'm just a cheap prick. 4iu has done me well so I haven't bothered to scale

If you're doing well with 4, I'd stick with it. I do about 2-4 iu/day. I feel good. I'm not using it for size, i just use it for "quality of life'.

Important distinction imo

Using GH for quality of life or "anti-aging" (however you define it) versus using it for bodybuilding

Big difference is dose (ignoring cost for the moment)

The benefits of GH for quality of life or anti-aging appear to saturate low (in the ballpark of 4 or less)

Bodybuilders, on the other hand, will keep pushing to 10 IU/d and beyond

whether it's all in their head and they'll do whatever they think could possibly give them an edge, or if it's actually providing additional efficacy, Idk

 

[The Answ3r]

I run my HGH first thing in the morning, around 5 AM. My cat wakes me up, I feed him, pin 2iu, and move on with my day. First meal is usually around 8-9 AM.

Morning dosing works much better for me. No sleep disruption, no morning bloat, no groggy feeling like I used to get from taking it at night.

Interestingly, I’ve noticed I actually look better off HGH than on it. Less water, a bit sharper overall. Today I started Sero though, so we’ll see how that compares to the Chinese stuff.

I’ve tried fasted vs non-fasted cardio with HGH and honestly didn’t notice any meaningful difference. Maybe there is one on paper, but in practice it’s minimal.

If you’re not competing, I’d keep it simple. Pin, wait 40-60 minutes, eat. Everything beyond that starts drifting into protocol-nerd territory.

 

[Endeavor Fitness]

Important distinction imo

Using GH for quality of life or "anti-aging" (however you define it) versus using it for bodybuilding

Big difference is dose (ignoring cost for the moment)

The benefits of GH for quality of life or anti-aging appear to saturate low (in the ballpark of 4 or less)

Bodybuilders, on the other hand, will keep pushing to 10 IU/d and beyond

whether it's all in their head and they'll do whatever they think could possibly give them an edge, or if it's actually providing additional efficacy, Idk

I know, I used to compete and currently coach ppl. This isn't new to me. Thanks for the refresher course though.

 

[setters]

I run my HGH first thing in the morning, around 5 AM. My cat wakes me up, I feed him, pin 2iu, and move on with my day. First meal is usually around 8-9 AM.

Morning dosing works much better for me. No sleep disruption, no morning bloat, no groggy feeling like I used to get from taking it at night.

Interestingly, I’ve noticed I actually look better off HGH than on it. Less water, a bit sharper overall. Today I started Sero though, so we’ll see how that compares to the Chinese stuff.

I’ve tried fasted vs non-fasted cardio with HGH and honestly didn’t notice any meaningful difference. Maybe there is one on paper, but in practice it’s minimal.

If you’re not competing, I’d keep it simple. Pin, wait 40-60 minutes, eat. Everything beyond that starts drifting into protocol-nerd territory.

If you look better off it than on and are only using 2iu, why bother?

 

[The Answ3r]

If you look better off it than on and are only using 2iu, why bother?

Because I’m sitting on a stupid amount of HGH and I’m not throwing it in the trash. I’m a hyper-responder, so it’s clearly doing something. I’m running an experiment, comparing Sero vs the Chinese stuff to see if anything changes visually. If it doesn’t, fine, lesson learned. But I’m not leaving data or GH on the table.

At this rate, the stash lasts another 4-5 years, so I’m committed whether I like it or not.

 

[maikelvv]

take my 2,5 iu in the morning,

be for bed i can’t sleep

 

[eery]

Because I’m sitting on a stupid amount of HGH and I’m not throwing it in the trash. I’m a hyper-responder, so it’s clearly doing something. I’m running an experiment, comparing Sero vs the Chinese stuff to see if anything changes visually. If it doesn’t, fine, lesson learned. But I’m not leaving data or GH on the table.

At this rate, the stash lasts another 4-5 years, so I’m committed whether I like it or not.

Make a post about it when you've done the experiments, it would be interesting to see. Especially if you recorded biofeedback, bloods and visuals and so on..

 

[lilhawk]

Important distinction imo

Using GH for quality of life or "anti-aging" (however you define it) versus using it for bodybuilding

Big difference is dose (ignoring cost for the moment)

The benefits of GH for quality of life or anti-aging appear to saturate low (in the ballpark of 4 or less)

Bodybuilders, on the other hand, will keep pushing to 10 IU/d and beyond

whether it's all in their head and they'll do whatever they think could possibly give them an edge, or if it's actually providing additional efficacy, Idk

One of the main reasons bodybuilders are the size they are today is because of large doses of GH. Use 10-20iu of GH and compare the results to 2-4iu and you will quickly realize it isn't in their head. You don't even have to do that. Just look at what happened in Dorian's era when doses of GH escalated. Oh shit that's right they all only used 4iu lol.

 

[DinoBB76]

used 4iu l

yes exactly, 4 units 4 times a day

Chad said openly that Coleman, Flex were already using 18 units per day (serostim) in the 90s/2000s

 

[AlexDavis43]

yes exactly, 4 units 4 times a day

Chad said openly that Coleman, Flex were already using 18 units per day (serostim) in the 90s/2000s

link/ref? I don't remember that

 

[DinoBB76]

link/ref? I don't remember that

It was Chad's last interview, if I find it I'll post the link, he told the whole truth for the first time; while Coleman said he used a little stuff that the doctor gave him

 

[jonny82]

Hi I divide the dose 1.5 IU before going to sleep, and 1.5 IU in the morning on an empty stomach

 

[amazonas]

I don't know how some of you are taking it in the morning, it makes me tired as hell throughout the day, i don't think it's "natural rythm" for the body. I take it at night one hour after my last meal and it has always worked out fine this way.

 

[BatmanVAR]

I run my HGH first thing in the morning, around 5 AM. My cat wakes me up, I feed him, pin 2iu, and move on with my day. First meal is usually around 8-9 AM.

Morning dosing works much better for me. No sleep disruption, no morning bloat, no groggy feeling like I used to get from taking it at night.

Interestingly, I’ve noticed I actually look better off HGH than on it. Less water, a bit sharper overall. Today I started Sero though, so we’ll see how that compares to the Chinese stuff.

I’ve tried fasted vs non-fasted cardio with HGH and honestly didn’t notice any meaningful difference. Maybe there is one on paper, but in practice it’s minimal.

If you’re not competing, I’d keep it simple. Pin, wait 40-60 minutes, eat. Everything beyond that starts drifting into protocol-nerd territory.

I had to stop my 4IUs of daily HGH for a week recently after being on for 4 months. I lost 12 pounds in less than a week and looked so much leaner. Smaller and slightly less vascular, but absolutely ripped.

I'm back on now and the water weight is returning, and I look way bigger and gym pumps are insane, but definitely not quite as lean.

 

[Dagmoon650]

But it doesn’t matter if doing so gives you insulin resistance. It’s another example of Todd the autist missing the forest from the trees. And there’s another video, idk if it’s been taken down since, where he was staring into the camera talking about how his blood glucose was in the 500-600 range and not responding to insulin administration. I’d be VERY careful listening to anything he says.

Of course, and I’m not speaking for Todd but I’d like to assume we all know doses at that range are 100% going to put you into resistance and you’d have to use insulin so again I’d assume that point of dosing is like the g in lasagna, even though it’s not said it’s implied

 

[RockyP]

Neither Mother Nature nor the manufacturers of Serostim ever intended for pulses of GH release throughout the day. You guys need to understand something. Todd Lee is completely full of shit. The only reason he hasn’t been prosecuted is because he is not a licensed physician. He has nearly killed himself multiple times with GH, insulin, DHB, etc. Listen to him at your peril. And take your GH in a bolus dose before bed.

 

[The Answ3r]

I had to stop my 4IUs of daily HGH for a week recently after being on for 4 months. I lost 12 pounds in less than a week and looked so much leaner. Smaller and slightly less vascular, but absolutely ripped.

I'm back on now and the water weight is returning, and I look way bigger and gym pumps are insane, but definitely not quite as lean.

Yeah, same vibe here. It’s not even the water for me, GH doesn’t really bloat me that much. It’s more like my face starts looking tired and oddly… older. I hop off GH and boom, I look like I got 8 hours of sleep and my youth back overnight. I remember @Ateam2023 saying the same thing happened to him too.

I’m 4 days into Sero now, and maybe it’s placebo, maybe it’s faith, maybe it’s just cope, but it honestly feels cleaner than every generic GH I’ve used before. Less “GH hangover” face, if that makes sense. Still early though, I’ll give it a solid month or two before I pretend I’ve cracked the code. So far, flight is smooth.

 

[RockyP]

Yeah, same vibe here. It’s not even the water for me, GH doesn’t really bloat me that much. It’s more like my face starts looking tired and oddly… older. I hop off GH and boom, I look like I got 8 hours of sleep and my youth back overnight. I remember @Ateam2023 saying the same thing happened to him too.

I’m 4 days into Sero now, and maybe it’s placebo, maybe it’s faith, maybe it’s just cope, but it honestly feels cleaner than every generic GH I’ve used before. Less “GH hangover” face, if that makes sense. Still early though, I’ll give it a solid month or two before I pretend I’ve cracked the code. So far, flight is smooth.

I've had the same experience with Seros. Can't explain it, but it's a different look / feel. Still not sure if it's worth the upcharge, but it's def different.

 

[The Answ3r]

I've had the same experience with Seros. Can't explain it, but it's a different look / feel. Still not sure if it's worth the upcharge, but it's def different.

Yeah, same thoughts. If you’re grabbing it from D, it’s about $700 shipped. I managed to snag it locally for $600, which for me is two months total. That’s basically $300 a month or like $9.5 a day. I’ve spent more than that on coffee and protein bars.

Yeah, it’s easily 10x the price of generics, no argument there. But as a one-time science experiment, I can live with it. Worst case, nothing changes. Best case, I finally crack the HGH face mystery.

 

[RockyP]

Yeah, same thoughts. If you’re grabbing it from D, it’s about $700 shipped. I managed to snag it locally for $600, which for me is two months total. That’s basically $300 a month or like $9.5 a day. I’ve spent more than that on coffee and protein bars.

Yeah, it’s easily 10x the price of generics, no argument there. But as a one-time science experiment, I can live with it. Worst case, nothing changes. Best case, I finally crack the HGH face mystery.

Yeah the GH face is interesting. What's odd is that GH is associated with "anti-aging" but the fact is that increased IGF-1 is pro-aging. So I would say that GH is anti-aging below the neck. Above the neck, not so much. And idk about you but my nasolabial folds have gotten way more prominent. I feel like a bulldog. Could also be because I'm very lean and an old fuck. If I let my E2 run wild and upped my carbs to 800 or so I might get that Chris Brander face back.