Super's First Cycle - log

superfluous

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Hey fellas.

I've finally decided to take the plunge into my first PED cycle and start this week. You can find my back story and motivations here https://thinksteroids.com/community/threads/first-cycle-researcher-making-an-intro.134433190/

I've been putting off the decision to go on cycle as I needed to sort out blood tests and also put on a lot more fat than I wanted over Christmas (about 2kg heavier from my leanest last year). But I decided screw it this weekend, I've recently started recovering strength in the gym and I figure I'll try cut for a month or two in the summer before vacation. I made some mistakes taking my bloods as well, but I'll describe that later.

My current stats are:
41,
5 ft 10 (178cm)
172lbs (78kg) - as of this morning, which is about 2lbs more than I've been steady.

The plan is 500mg test-c per week IM (had considered subq but changed my mind based on other's experience on this forum). I plan a cycle of 16 weeks leaving me stopping mid May (open to advice on 16 being too short/long). I took my first shot of 250mg Test C on Sunday 25th Jan.

Additions to my stack:
HCG 250iu EOD
Reta 5mg per week

I got my bloods done and ask for Male Hormone Profile (plus other health markers) but they didn't provide any E2 levels in the result, which is a mistake. I don't think I knew what I was asking for, but decided to carry on anyway with my first shot last weekend. When I do my next bloods I'll make sure to request a proper profile.

FSH) 2.7 IU/L
Luteinizing hormone (LH) 3.5 IU/L
Prolactin 253.4 mIU/L
Testosterone 22.7 nmol/L


ChatGPT tells me this is good for my age, but I haven't got much else to compare to. Other liver markers which might be relevant:

GOT/ AST 93.0 U/L - Males 1.0 - 37.0
GPT / ALT 128.3 U/L - Males 1.0 - 40.0
Gamma GT 44.0 U/L - Males 11.0 - 62.0
Alkaline phosphatase - 60.0 U/L
Total Bilirubin 5.1 umol/L - Reference Range 1.0 - 22.0
Albumin 44.0 g/L - Reference Range 38.0 - 54.0
Total Proteins 71.0 g/L


I was worried about those first 2 liver markets but according to the AI gods they can be indicative of high levels of resistance training and muscle protein breakdown in blood - and I had been in the gym 6 days straight before the test (but I'm open to other advice on those...) but yeah apparently the other markets invalidate a theory of liver damage (which I worry about as I drink).

Anyway that was my first mistake. My second mistake so far was (following a Youtube video) I did my first injection straight in my quad and while not painful going in, the injected oils felt erm, very uncomfortable to the point of giving me a muscle spasm for 30 minutes. I've been walking about for 2 days since as if I've destroyed my left leg in a leg extension i.e. it feels like muscle damage / discomfort - not nerves (but maybe I mix them up. I'm thinking I should go straight for the glute next time as that was not a comfortable experience (and again advice welcome).

My third (and hopefully final) mistake is I didn't order an AI when I got supplies - somehow I got it in my head that this was unlikely to be needed when reading a guide, but in between ordering I've now got the opinion it's probably needed. So I'll need to find an EU source for this in the coming days.

I think that's all I have. I will post some starting pictures I took today later once I get time to blare my face out.

Any advice so far welcome, I'm here to learn.
 
first two liver markers are basicly meaningless imo for lifters, ggt is one that you should look for.

you/we can see that you drink. i mad 0,37 in the middle of the anadrol run and ussually its under 0,15.

very simple solution, stop drinkin.

for eu sources there are few options that will deliver quickly, look for them in underground section. in about week you will have everything.

about pip, first few shots were painfull. virgin muscles, its normal. other than that, they will get used to oil. you should add 1-2 more muscles to rotation, with C ester its enough to pin 2x per week so 2-3 muscle groups x2 should get you covered for wuite a while.

buuut, if you wanna best results from first blast (you will never make that kind of progress again), stay at 250mg as cruise dose and cut hard. ive made mistake tryin to grow while fat and it backfired, i could have made double the progress... you can check my log.

when you are lean enough, you will have much better insulin sensitivity and be more metabolicly "ready" to start growing. also easier time with estrogen.

dont make the same mistake. good luck.
 
first two liver markers are basicly meaningless imo for lifters, ggt is one that you should look for.

you/we can see that you drink. i mad 0,37 in the middle of the anadrol run and ussually its under 0,15.

very simple solution, stop drinkin.

for eu sources there are few options that will deliver quickly, look for them in underground section. in about week you will have everything.

about pip, first few shots were painfull. virgin muscles, its normal. other than that, they will get used to oil. you should add 1-2 more muscles to rotation, with C ester its enough to pin 2x per week so 2-3 muscle groups x2 should get you covered for wuite a while.

buuut, if you wanna best results from first blast (you will never make that kind of progress again), stay at 250mg as cruise dose and cut hard. ive made mistake tryin to grow while fat and it backfired, i could have made double the progress... you can check my log.

when you are lean enough, you will have much better insulin sensitivity and be more metabolicly "ready" to start growing. also easier time with estrogen.

dont make the same mistake. good luck.

Interesting about going the lean route, I wasn't sure it was a wise option - but it's an attractive one. I wasn't happy with my fat levels in my selfies (even though I'm 30kg+ lighter than 3 years ago) and I did think maybe if I kept my calories down I could hope for a recomp into a harder/solid look vs going for the maximum muscle/strength gains at the expense of pilling on the beef. In saying that I'm not even sure if I can ever achieve a proper cut look given where I came from (abs will certainly always be a struggle). Also thanks for the tips and I will check your log.

Anyway here's some awkward selfies for the purposes of keeping the thread more interesting with a before and after reveal in 16 weeks...
 

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Interesting about going the lean route, I wasn't sure it was a wise option - but it's an attractive one. I wasn't happy with my fat levels in my selfies (even though I'm 30kg+ lighter than 3 years ago) and I did think maybe if I kept my calories down I could hope for a recomp into a harder/solid look vs going for the maximum muscle/strength gains at the expense of pilling on the beef. In saying that I'm not even sure if I can ever achieve a proper cut look given where I came from (abs will certainly always be a struggle). Also thanks for the tips and I will check your log.

Anyway here's some awkward selfies for the purposes of keeping the thread more interesting with a before and after reveal in 16 weeks...

cut down on lower dose first and thank me later. you can recomp on lower doses after. you will have much much better results for sure mate.

with availability of glp1 peptides, cheap gh, its very easy to cut down. on 250 test you wont loose gram of muscle, probably even gain some.

after that you will be in much better position for adding new tissue + it will be summer time and you will be blasting 500mg, lookin and feelin much better.
 
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