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[darkdays]

Personally I take Optis NAD+500. I inject in the morning. I want to tell you it is probably very much placebo as a caution. Enough research exist now to confirm NAD isn't readily available even when injected. But that's what they say. Hopefully on the horizon Opti will move towards MOTSc.

With that said I inject 500mg in the a.m. IM. I feel it immediately with a slight head rush, and some minor sinus blockage. This apparently is extremely common and in fact proves it is working. I say this so that you can make an informed decision to try it. I don't drink coffee or have other stimulants in my system, but like most I'm groggy at times on certain days. NAD seems to kick that, and I'm hyper alert, and focused. I get shit done. Haha

So placebo, or in actuality I just can't be sure, but consistently I get a head rush, not really euphoric, but just a quick blast and I'm off. I like it, so if the science is right... Mind over matter I guess. N going to keep it up.

what does motsc mean? thanks for your contributions knowledge wise to this thread as well as sharing personal experiences. i often deal with grogginess wether my test is at 100 ng/dl(a year ago after getting "injured" having to be on heavy pain meds while to then contracting a stomach virus/bacteria in mex) to when running trt at 850-1075ng/dl, unless i over caffeinate theres this sluggishness that wont go away.

 

[justanoob]

what does motsc mean? thanks for your contributions knowledge wise to this thread as well as sharing personal experiences. i often deal with grogginess wether my test is at 100 ng/dl(a year ago after getting "injured" having to be on heavy pain meds while to then contracting a stomach virus/bacteria in mex) to when running trt at 850-1075ng/dl, unless i over caffeinate theres this sluggishness that wont go away.

Motsc is a fantastic peptide that hopefully Opti will start carrying soon

 

[Juicedhead]

Quality items or not he can get on his page more than once a week. Takes 10 mins to answer some questions.

His communication is the worst out of any domestic source.

Hey bro if you read optis intro post is says to contact him via email. Always gets back to me within 24hrs.

 

[Scooby69]

got any advice on NAD &/or/with b12? dosaging length of time, pin schedule etc? have an injury about 2.5-3 weeks into the recovery process (doc said 3-5 weeks worst 6 weeks); at this point would it even make sense to hop on those peptides? bc they take a while to build up and become effective no?

I take 100 mg NAD+ IM most days. Within minutes of injection, I have an amped up feeling similar to an adrenaline rush. Not sure if there is any longterm benefit however.

 

[BALLISTIC]

I take 100 mg NAD+ IM most days. Within minutes of injection, I have an amped up feeling similar to an adrenaline rush. Not sure if there is any longterm benefit however.

Interesting I started at this dose and ended up at 500im daily. This seems to be the same effect for me, but you're saving money haha.

So you would say you think it's effective also? I get a weird strange hyper alert. Like my brain just fired on all 8 cylinders at maximum HP. I read faster, and seem to just flow better.

I haven't experienced MOTSc yet but my understanding is it passes the blood-brain barrier far superior to NAD. Maybe @Ghoul will have some working knowledge. If not my apology ghoul.

 

[Scooby69]

Interesting I started at this dose and ended up at 500im daily. This seems to be the same effect for me, but you're saving money haha.

So you would say you think it's effective also? I get a weird strange hyper alert. Like my brain just fired on all 8 cylinders at maximum HP. I read faster, and seem to just flow better.

I haven't experienced MOTSc yet but my understanding is it passes the blood-brain barrier far superior to NAD.

Yes, I seem to get an effect at 100 mg. I have not tried a higher dose yet. I have no experience with MOTSc, but it sounds like worth looking into.

 

[jan912]

Damn you guys are nuts, most NAD+ I take at a time is 50mg and even at that I feel like someone pushed me off the roof of a building.

 

[darkdays]

Damn you guys are nuts, most NAD+ I take at a time is 50mg and even at that I feel like someone pushed me off the roof of a building.

aight seems like it may be worth a go at my "energy" issues. thanks for all the replies

 

[Juicedhead]

I take 100 mg NAD+ IM most days. Within minutes of injection, I have an amped up feeling similar to an adrenaline rush. Not sure if there is any longterm benefit however.

Is the energy sustained for the day or just a surge after the shot?

 

[rtrnofbesoge]

Im currently running 1mg ED of MOTS-C, pinned AM. This is only day 2, I would get it if you can find it cheap. If not, then idk that it's worth it. It gives me a clean alert feeling that lasts most of the day. I will say though, as far as doing cardio is concerned it's been awsome so far, not sure if cardio is worth the price tag but what once had me tired and praying for it to be over, is now a breeze.

 

[BALLISTIC]

Is the energy sustained for the day or just a surge after the shot?

For me it last hours. No crash at all. Just lit up and go. It does have a mild noticeable simulation, this fades within a few minutes. Then I'm just aware and awake but hyper focused.