Deca. Ends justify the means?

[BALLISTIC]

I cruise on daily injecting of Test C at 350mg a week. That's not what I'm looking to debate. I added in Deca at 175mg a week 2 weeks ago. Daily injections of it. My right knee pain is completely gone. I'm a local truck driver and climbing in and out of the semi truck was painful. That's completely gone.

I'm suffering from mental side affects though. Pro and con side affects.

Pros
Libido is high. Spiked literally the next day after injectioning Deca.
Sex feels much more intense and passionate.
Require less sleep and still feel sharp
Attraction to my wife is more intense
Right knee pain, completely gone

Cons
Jealousy/insecurity... For example if a family member makes my wife laugh a lot at a get together, I'll look inward that I'm not funny enough.
Overanalyze my wife's mood and take it personal.

My question is would cutting the dose down to 87.5 mg a week give my less mental sides and still the joint relief? Is it possible my brain (shit mental genetics) cannot handle Deca and I just simply can't have my cake and eat it too?

Thank you for any insight. Merry Christmas!

Read this just to get some further insight. It's not your exact situation. But many have this with Nor19 compounds. I give a little insight to these and how they effect the brain post 2. Not the exact situation but hopefully you gather something useful.

Thread 'Paranoia no matter what cycle?' Paranoia no matter what cycle?

Paranoia comes in many forms and it's directed by the fight flight response. Sometimes it presents as insecurity. Meanwhile you're not that person, and the compound is now in control.

 

[éobrazinojogodagalera]

Im using 100mg of NPP per week and I do feel like I get the joint benefits.

Brother, if you're still living in Brazil, what's your current source?

 

[Malevolent666]

Read this just to get some further insight. It's not your exact situation. But many have this with Nor19 compounds. I give a little insight to these and how they effect the brain post 2. Not the exact situation but hopefully you gather something useful.

Thread 'Paranoia no matter what cycle?' Paranoia no matter what cycle?

Paranoia comes in many forms and it's directed by the fight flight response. Sometimes it presents as insecurity. Meanwhile you're not that person, and the compound is now in control.

The thing is I am that person. Prior to even TRT I've been a jealous, paranoid and insecure person. 250mg of Deca amplified that. It's also amplified my libido drastically but my libido has always been high. Not as crazy as on 250mg of Deca.
This new cycle of 175mg of Deca libido definitely went up over Test solo. Not as crazy as 250mg. Insecure thoughts and jealousy increased but nowhere near the 250mg cycle.

Hopefully this 87.5mg a week will work out for me. I love the joint relief being 41 years old.

I should also add im on 450mg of Buprophian daily. I also have a nicotine pouch in my mouth 90% of my waking life. Meaning my dopamine is probably on the higher end from all this.

 

[BALLISTIC]

The thing is I am that person. Prior to even TRT I've been a jealous, paranoid and insecure person. 250mg of Deca amplified that. It's also amplified my libido drastically but my libido has always been high. Not as crazy as on 250mg of Deca.
This new cycle of 175mg of Deca libido definitely went up over Test solo. Not as crazy as 250mg. Insecure thoughts and jealousy increased but nowhere near the 250mg cycle.

Hopefully this 87.5mg a week will work out for me. I love the joint relief being 41 years old.

I should also add im on 450mg of Buprophian daily. I also have a nicotine pouch in my mouth 90% of my waking life. Meaning my dopamine is probably on the higher end from all this.

Have you tried anything other than Wellbutrin? I believe they conflict with each other. You'll have to research further but I believe Wellbutrin will intensify what your experiencing.

 

[Malevolent666]

Have you tried anything other than Wellbutrin? I believe they conflict with each other. You'll have to research further but I believe Wellbutrin will intensify what your experiencing.

I have tried anti-psychotics with the Wellbutrin but they were absolutely horrible. I went on Wellbutrin in the first place because it's an antidepressant that does not decrease libido or cause lethargy

 

[BALLISTIC]

Be straight up with your DR. Tell them what your doing and ask them for no judgement, just ethical healthcare. I did this years ago, and continue with any new provider. I think they really respect the honesty and they've all been willing to understand "I'm going to do this, I want your help in being as healthy as possible doing it". Tell them what's going on and see if you have other options to explore. I haven't got your experience with mental health drugs, but I think it could be beneficial and worth a try. You'll have to decide. Best of luck my friend.

 

[Gavzilla]

Somewhat but was able to shake off these thoughts and move on. On Deca, I need to get to the bottom of the thoughts. Obsessively try to right whatever what I feel is wrong instead of just moving on. I'm definitely more emotional on Deca. I'll cry easily when thinking about my kids or my wife. The emotions are stronger.

This is a common issue I find amongst the lads on deca. When I was with my promiscuous ex whilst on deca my thoughts would get out of hand. Deca was great for size, strength, repair of injuries however I found myself thinking about my ex days she could have been cheating on me. This was on 400-600 mg of deca.

 

[Malevolent666]

Be straight up with your DR. Tell them what your doing and ask them for no judgement, just ethical healthcare. I did this years ago, and continue with any new provider. I think they really respect the honesty and they've all been willing to understand "I'm going to do this, I want your help in being as healthy as possible doing it". Tell them what's going on and see if you have other options to explore. I haven't got your experience with mental health drugs, but I think it could be beneficial and worth a try. You'll have to decide. Best of luck my friend.

Deca is an interesting compound in that I welcome the libido increase and joint health. The problem is at what cost? If your mental health suffers, it probably isn't worth it. Which is too bad because it's pros are very good ones.

 

[BALLISTIC]

Deca is an interesting compound in that I welcome the libido increase and joint health. The problem is at what cost? If your mental health suffers, it probably isn't worth it. Which is too bad because it's pros are very good ones.

So I agree, Deca for me is incredible, I feel good, happy go lucky. Tren no way. I lose my self respect. I see a dumpster chic and she's doable 3xs to ensure I was conscious (best out of 3) haha. I make terrible life decisions. So Nor19 isn't for everybody.

Have you tried NPP, instead? I understand they're the same compound and different ester. But NPP, affects me differently. Maybe this will be your solution? Food for thought.

 

[Malevolent666]

So I agree, Deca for me is incredible, I feel good, happy go lucky. Tren no way. I lose my self respect. I see a dumpster chic and she's doable 3xs to ensure I was conscious (best out of 3) haha. I make terrible life decisions. So Nor19 isn't for everybody.

Have you tried NPP, instead? I understand they're the same compound and different ester. But NPP, affects me differently. Maybe this will be your solution? Food for thought.

I forgot to add with Deca, I can sleep for 4 hours and feel only slightly tired. For some reason the drug let's me survive on less sleep whereas Test only id over sleep for work quite often. I start super early so it's not that outlandish to over sleep.

 

[Malevolent666]

So I agree, Deca for me is incredible, I feel good, happy go lucky. Tren no way. I lose my self respect. I see a dumpster chic and she's doable 3xs to ensure I was conscious (best out of 3) haha. I make terrible life decisions. So Nor19 isn't for everybody.

Have you tried NPP, instead? I understand they're the same compound and different ester. But NPP, affects me differently. Maybe this will be your solution? Food for thought.

I never tried NPP. I heard from Palumbo it's inferior to Deca for the joint remedy.

 

[BALLISTIC]

I never tried NPP. I heard from Palumbo it's inferior to Deca for the joint remedy.

Yeah I don't know if his word is solid testimony. I bridge cycles often, and immediately with NPP, my joints feel much better. So that's my take, and I know numerous other members here report joint relief from NPP. It's the same compound, different ester, he might be right but it doesn't make sense in reality. Most of what were doing here is personally anecdotal. If your at the point where it's worth it, give it a try.

 

[Billbo98]

This is off the wall advice but an ssri like lexapro would help immensely with the mental sides from 19 nors