Deca. Ends justify the means?

[Malevolent666]

I cruise on daily injecting of Test C at 350mg a week. That's not what I'm looking to debate. I added in Deca at 175mg a week 2 weeks ago. Daily injections of it. My right knee pain is completely gone. I'm a local truck driver and climbing in and out of the semi truck was painful. That's completely gone.

I'm suffering from mental side affects though. Pro and con side affects.

Pros
Libido is high. Spiked literally the next day after injectioning Deca.
Sex feels much more intense and passionate.
Require less sleep and still feel sharp
Attraction to my wife is more intense
Right knee pain, completely gone

Cons
Jealousy/insecurity... For example if a family member makes my wife laugh a lot at a get together, I'll look inward that I'm not funny enough.
Overanalyze my wife's mood and take it personal.

My question is would cutting the dose down to 87.5 mg a week give my less mental sides and still the joint relief? Is it possible my brain (shit mental genetics) cannot handle Deca and I just simply can't have my cake and eat it too?

Thank you for any insight. Merry Christmas!

 

[xrayphoton13]

Certainly don't need daily injections. I personally think the bigger peaks and troughs create less side effects than trying to flat line the dose.
Anyways, you could also try lowering the dose or switching to NPP. Sounds weird bc same drug different ester but give it a try. A lot of people like npp but not deca

 

[Malevolent666]

Certainly don't need daily injections. I personally think the bigger peaks and troughs create less side effects than trying to flat line the dose.
Anyways, you could also try lowering the dose or switching to NPP. Sounds weird bc same drug different ester but give it a try. A lot of people like npp but not deca

Back when I did 250mg weekly of Deca spilt into 2 twice a week, my mental sides were insane and libido was uncontrollably high.

That may be because of the dose though.

 

[Ruru_Teh_seks]

100 works for me for my joints, maybe try lowering it to see?

 

[Malevolent666]

Certainly don't need daily injections. I personally think the bigger peaks and troughs create less side effects than trying to flat line the dose.
Anyways, you could also try lowering the dose or switching to NPP. Sounds weird bc same drug different ester but give it a try. A lot of people like npp but not deca

I've heard from Dave Palumbo that NPP doesn't have the same joint relief Deca has. Although I may get blasted for dropping his name lol. Some people love him, some hate him.

 

[Malevolent666]

100 works for me for my joints, maybe try lowering it to see?

Yeah started today. I was at 175 per week but I'm going to try cutting that in half.

 

[OogieBoogie]

100 works for me for my joints, maybe try lowering it to see?

I agree 100-150 is good for joint relief. Try lowering it.

Merry Christmas!

 

[deadbeef]

My question is would cutting the dose down to 87.5 mg a week give my less mental sides and still the joint relief?

I get excellent joint relief at 60mg/week.

 

[cousinmuscles]

I've heard from Dave Palumbo that NPP doesn't have the same joint relief Deca has. Although I may get blasted for dropping his name lol. Some people love him, some hate him.

He has a lot of good knowledge and a lot outdated approaches and has forgotten a lot. Take the good and ignore the bad, don't be emotional and hate.

Anyway on 350 test how is your estrogen? I found that unmanaged estrogen combined with nandrolone makes side effects magnified.

 

[xrayphoton13]

I've heard from Dave Palumbo that NPP doesn't have the same joint relief Deca has. Although I may get blasted for dropping his name lol. Some people love him, some hate him.

I like Dave. Some of his views might be a little outdated but the man was huge and he's been around the industry a long time so I still think he's a good source of information. I've also heard npp gives less joint relief than deca but it's worth a shot just to see. I seemed to get enough relief in my knee using npp. But I don't get nearly as many mental sides with npp. Doesn't make a lot of sense but I know I'm not the only one. It was actually big TomJ that recommended I try npp if deca gave me mental issues. And he was right. I do 100-120mg per week split into MWF dosing.

 

[New2theGame!!]

Did you have any of these thoughts only on test? They say like tren, it only intensifies who you actually are.

 

[bananafeet]

Welcome to the merry-go-round of messing with hormones.

Maybe you picked up on a dynamic you previously didn't see or wouldn't have tolerated in a lower androgenic state. Maybe you imagined the interaction entirely.

You will never really know after messing with your brain's chemistry. That's the price you pay. These effects will probably be there at ANY dose. Just more intense as you increase it.

I have found 125mg of test E and 100mg of deca is plenty for a TRT/cruise and doesn't mess up my blood work. I also have issue with joint pain.

Maybe add in some glucosamine, collagen etc