Pita / Zetia / Vascepa vs test / tren / mast / var (bloodwork)

[shredded.lyfe]

Thanks my friend. Yes lipo a was <10 , apo b high at 1.14 though with total and ldl fairly elevated. Plan is to stick on simvastatin and repatha (no pitavastatin approval in Canada yet)

I managed to get pitavastatin approved in Australia but of course not a single fucking retailer or warehouse stocks it in the entire country.

Black market wins again.

 

[Ariesstar80]

There’s so much anti-statin paranoia out there (including me for a long time), getting people to take anything to lower LDL has been a huge battle, so non-statin meds like Eze, Bemp, and PCSK9 (like Repatha) have been thought to be “the holy grail” of cardiology to finally get people to treat ldl down into a safe range.

The problem is all the studies show statins used as a base with any of those other meds do significantly more to lower risk than just the ldl reduction accounts for. It’s down to the anti-inflammatory effect. (It may be the cholesterol crystal dissolving property of statins responsible for much of that, less injury to the arteries from all that stabbing).

Without a statin, Eze and Bemp look weak on their own. (Better than nothing, just much much more effective as add ons to statins).

You’re single handily stopping that paranoia for all the peps on here. Do you have a background in research/science ? You’d be an amazing medical rep. I’m thinking of taking these pharmaceuticals as a preventive cardiology stack even though all my markers are in the green lol

 

[RockyP]

You’re single handily stopping that paranoia for all the peps on here. Do you have a background in research/science ? You’d be an amazing medical rep. I’m thinking of taking these pharmaceuticals as a preventive cardiology stack even though all my markers are in the green lol

In my former life I learned really quickly that some people who had boatloads of money were not only not smarter than everyone else, they were in fact rather stupid. The difference is, they knew the right people. They had others willing to help them, share information, and show them the ropes. This forum does have it's share of shit-talkers and trolls, but I can assure you that the information shared by @Ghoul and some other members will give you a far greater health benefit than interacting with the medical system in the standard manner. I've mentioned this before, I have a very well trained academic cardiologist (he's not a lipidologist, but he's not an idiot), and even he was hesitant to let me be "aggressive" with aiming to get my LDL under 50. I had to remind him of my family history of heart disease as well as a genetically low baseline HDL, which means that even without PEDs, I need to get my LDL as low as possible. While things like inflammation and oxidative stress are still very important (statins address this as well), I can't over-state how important this information is in terms of keeping PED users alive. The professional guys, at least in the Open class, will always have their health at greater risk just due to the fact that they bulk up to close to / over 300 lbs. Even with normal lipids and BP that is controlled with meds, being that big is a massive strain to the system. But for the rest of us, normal BP, low LDL, low AboB and Lp(a) - it doesn't guarantee anything, but it's the absolute best chance you have at CV longevity.

 

[Ariesstar80]

In my former life I learned really quickly that some people who had boatloads of money were not only not smarter than everyone else, they were in fact rather stupid. The difference is, they knew the right people. They had others willing to help them, share information, and show them the ropes. This forum does have it's share of shit-talkers and trolls, but I can assure you that the information shared by @Ghoul and some other members will give you a far greater health benefit than interacting with the medical system in the standard manner. I've mentioned this before, I have a very well trained academic cardiologist (he's not a lipidologist, but he's not an idiot), and even he was hesitant to let me be "aggressive" with aiming to get my LDL under 50. I had to remind him of my family history of heart disease as well as a genetically low baseline HDL, which means that even without PEDs, I need to get my LDL as low as possible. While things like inflammation and oxidative stress are still very important (statins address this as well), I can't over-state how important this information is in terms of keeping PED users alive. The professional guys, at least in the Open class, will always have their health at greater risk just due to the fact that they bulk up to close to / over 300 lbs. Even with normal lipids and BP that is controlled with meds, being that big is a massive strain to the system. But for the rest of us, normal BP, low LDL, low AboB and Lp(a) - it doesn't guarantee anything, but it's the absolute best chance you have at CV longevity.

What made him hesitant ? What were the cons to being aggressive with it ?

 

[RockyP]

What made him hesitant ? What were the cons to being aggressive with it ?

There's an outdated and (now we know) medically inaccurate paradigm that your LDL can be "too low" and lead to spontaneous hemorrhaging. This has been discredited.

LDL Cholesterol Lowering: Is There a Risk for Dementia and Hemorrhagic Stroke? - American College of Cardiology

www.acc.org