Var vs Tbol

[sepsin]

for muscle building purposes (not performance in any sport), while on a lean bulk which one would you choose?

Anavar or Tbol?

I’d be combining it with a test base btw

 

[Jim2561]

For muscle building (dose dependant) Turinabol is probably your best bet out of the two. Its also better for stamina.
For strength/mind muscle connection and if on a cut Var would be better. Obviously theres other factors as to how successful it would be personally for you.

 

[Ruru_Teh_seks]

Anavar always

 

[sepsin]

For muscle building (dose dependant) Turinabol is probably your best bet out of the two. Its also better for stamina.
For strength/mind muscle connection and if on a cut Var would be better. Obviously theres other factors as to how successful it would be personally for you.

Anavar always

lol, so which one out of the 2?

 

[Jim2561]

lol, so which one out of the 2?

I answered you. You asked which was better for muscle building and I told you - Turinabol. As I also said there's many factors at play as to whether either of them works for you as intended.

 

[sepsin]

I answered you. You asked which was better for muscle building and I told you - Turinabol. As I also said there's many factors at play as to whether either of them works for you as intended.

which factors would that be?

tbh I’m currently a bit underweight (70kg at 186cm) and I want to get to 75kg.

I’m also 12% bf if that helps.

 

[Jim2561]

which factors would that be?

tbh I’m currently a bit underweight (70kg at 186cm) and I want to get to 75kg.

I’m also 12% bf if that helps.

Er...diet, rest, training....the product quality, human physiology....you know the basics right.

 

[Eddie.]

If you're 70kg at 1,86 you don't need any orals. Crank up the test and the food, both of the orals will do only so little in terms of adding real tissue, close to nothing. Same goes for every ped if not sufficient food is not in place.

 

[sepsin]

Er...diet, rest, training....the product quality, human physiology....you know the basics right.

both Tbol or Var would be pharma grade.

now in regards to training, rest and diet, I don’t see how that would affect the choice.

Obv I’m trying to compare both ceteris paribus (meaning the training, diet, and rest would be the same in each scenario).

But thanks for your answer

 

[sepsin]

If you're 70kg at 1,86 you don't need any orals. Crank up the test and the food, both of the orals will do only so little in terms of adding real tissue, close to nothing. Same goes for every ped if not sufficient food is not in place.

it will be my first cycle, so I really don’t know how much I aromatize tbh.

I’ll start at 300mg p/ week and get blood work done as soon as test fully titrates.

If I can up the dosage from there without needing an AI, I most def will.

But thanks for ur answer

 

[ZaddyZonar]

it will be my first cycle, so I really don’t know how much I aromatize tbh.

I’ll start at 300mg p/ week and get blood work done as soon as test fully titrates.

If I can up the dosage from there without needing an AI, I most def will.

But thanks for ur answer

So it’s your first cycle, you have no idea how you aromatise, yet you want to add an oral? You must be from TikTok

Like Eddie mentioned, stick to test, up the dose and crank the food up. You’ll have zero issues putting on weight.

 

[Biggerisbetternl]

for muscle building purposes (not performance in any sport), while on a lean bulk which one would you choose?

Anavar or Tbol?

I’d be combining it with a test base btw

I always wanted to try real var, it is rumored to be very good stuff. Tbol I never really heard much about so I'd probably go with var.

 

[sepsin]

So it’s your first cycle, you have no idea how you aromatise, yet you want to add an oral? You must be from TikTok

Like Eddie mentioned, stick to test, up the dose and crank the food up. You’ll have zero issues putting on weight.

I’d be adding an oral at the end of the 20-week cycle, so at that point I’d know how much I aromatize.

Besides both orals that I mentioned dont cause estrogen-like side effects so I can’t see what aromatization has to do with them

 

[Jim2561]

both Tbol or Var would be pharma grade.

now in regards to training, rest and diet, I don’t see how that would affect the choice.

Obv I’m trying to compare both ceteris paribus (meaning the training, diet, and rest would be the same in each scenario).

But thanks for your answer

As someone else has already told you diet, training and upping the test is a better option for you. Taking an oral with a crappy diet/training isnt going to help you....surely this doesnt need pointing out.

 

[ZaddyZonar]

I’d be adding an oral at the end of the 20-week cycle, so at that point I’d know how much I aromatize.

Besides both orals that I mentioned dont cause estrogen-like side effects so I can’t see what aromatization has to do with them

It’s about not knowing the side effect of the most basic compound to any cycle, and you’re wanting to add more to it.

Stick to test, up the dose, and up the food. From your replies here though you aren’t listening to any advise though, so do what you want to do pimp

 

[sepsin]

As someone else has already told you diet, training and upping the test is a better option for you. Taking an oral with a crappy diet/training isnt going to help you....surely this doesnt need pointing out.

obviously the diet and training wouldn’t be crappy. I’ve been lifting natty for 3 years and already dialed in my diet and training.

But thx for the advice, I think I’ll up my test as much as possible without needing an AI.

I think I’ll reach the sweet spot once I understand what’s the highest dose I can handle without an AI, but please correct me if I’m wrong.

 

[sepsin]

It’s about not knowing the side effect of the most basic compound to any cycle, and you’re wanting to add more to it.

Stick to test, up the dose, and up the food. From your replies here though you aren’t listening to any advise though, so do what you want to do pimp

I’m listening to the advice, and that’s what I’ll do.

I’m just trying to understand the different perspectives about orals, nothing else.

But I appreciate your answer, and I didn’t want to come off as arrogant or anything.

 

[Jim2561]

obviously the diet and training wouldn’t be crappy. I’ve been lifting natty for 3 years and already dialed in my diet and training.

But thx for the advice, I think I’ll up my test as much as possible without needing an AI.

I think I’ll reach the sweet spot once I understand what’s the highest dose I can handle without an AI, but please correct me if I’m wrong.

Well you said "now in regards to training, rest and diet, I don’t see how that would affect the choice" so my point was valid as I wouldnt know your personal health habits/situation and you didnt tell us.

The responses have given you some good pointers. Best of luck to you.

 

[Slowww]

Im going with tbol this off season. I don’t care for compounds that have an aesthetic effect in a mass gain phase. Anavar also does mess with my digestion, and digestion is most important in a mass gain phase. That being said, considering your weight really, i can guarantee they’re not needed. especially strong strength boosting orals. What is it going to realistically add to your lifts that a little more sleep or food won’t?