Training on cycle

[Andrewthatguy]

Whenever I’m on a cycle, compared to being natural should I change my training? I mean id prefer to stick to my split but like should I increase the reps or is there something I can do to maximize the extra gains I would get?

 

[taco33150]

This a serious question?

 

[Andrewthatguy]

This a serious question?

Yes dude. I’m asking or people with experience is there something optimal I should do.

 

[taco33150]

Yes dude. I’m asking or people with experience is there something optimal I should do.

Yea train hard at every session .. why you want to let off the gas when there isn’t any PEDS involved

 

[Andrewthatguy]

Yea train hard at every session .. why you want to let off the gas when there isn’t any PEDS involved

Like what I mean is like is there anything specific I should do to get more gains, besides just going hard as fuck like I already do.

 

[taco33150]

Eat

 

[taco33150]

I don’t understand why you think because your on a “cycle “ your training should change .. if that’s the case than don’t do anything until you back on cycle..

 

[Cyp180]

Whenever I’m on a cycle, compared to being natural should I change my training? I mean id prefer to stick to my split but like should I increase the reps or is there something I can do to maximize the extra gains I would get?

On or off, you need to train and diet for 110%

 

[Slowww]

I think minimum effective volume and maximum recoverable volume as well as how high intensity gets can change.

Recovery is better on gear and with more food, which you can utilize better due to the gear and not get fat, so you can use more food.

Going on blast i can recover from more volume. In contrast: If I train with a natural regularly for example, and I was doing high volume legs during a blast, I would not expect him to do all the sets at the highest intensity possible and recover properly. Similarly when I reduce the gear, I cannot tolerate as much volume, and I do need to remove some working sets or intensifiers if I want to be able to recover well.

Second-because at certain points during a cycle tendons do not develop or repair as quickly as muscles, the rep scheme and tempo might have to change and that means I need to select lower loads. Some guys have very robust joints so it’s not as important, but small jointed, or lanky guys need to pay even more attention to this on cycle because that body type tends to have joints that are comparatively weak. Joints will get overworked, brittle or develop potential overuse injuries so you have to give them a break while continuing to train close to failure, and also train the tendons. In this kind of situation it’s good to increase reps and TUT, and decrease weight until joints can handle higher loads, less reps.

Last thing— if you’re on a cycle and have caloric surplus with good diet and training— every single session you should be progressively overloading. If not youre either A. A pussy B. Have a faulty protocol or C. Both

If you’re not making progress like that and youre not training like a bitch it means you need to adjust something

 

[taco33150]

I think minimum effective volume and maximum recoverable volume as well as how high intensity gets can change.

Recovery is better on gear and with more food, which you can utilize better due to the gear and not get fat, so you can use more food.

Going on blast i can recover from more volume. In contrast: If I train with a natural regularly for example, and I was doing high volume legs during a blast, I would not expect him to do all the sets at the highest intensity possible and recover properly. Similarly when I reduce the gear, I cannot tolerate as much volume, and I do need to remove some working sets or intensifiers if I want to be able to recover well.

Second-because at certain points during a cycle tendons do not develop or repair as quickly as muscles, the rep scheme and tempo might have to change and that means I need to select lower loads. Some guys have very robust joints so it’s not as important, but small jointed, or lanky guys need to pay even more attention to this on cycle because that body type tends to have joints that are comparatively weak. Joints will get overworked, brittle or develop potential overuse injuries so you have to give them a break while continuing to train close to failure, and also train the tendons. In this kind of situation it’s good to increase reps and TUT, and decrease weight until joints can handle higher loads, less reps.

Last thing— if you’re on a cycle and have caloric surplus with good diet and training— every single session you should be progressively overloading. If not youre either A. A pussy B. Have a faulty protocol or C. Both

If you’re not making progress like that and youre not training like a bitch it means you need to adjust something

Grow bigger balls for D

 

[Methyl Mike]

Whenever I’m on a cycle, compared to being natural should I change my training? I mean id prefer to stick to my split but like should I increase the reps or is there something I can do to maximize the extra gains I would get?

Steroids were designed to keep malnourished prisoners of war alive on starvation food rations. They enhance whatever you are already doing. However you do need to be mindful that most enhance cartilage growth which the body recognizes and in response tends to make the new cartilage brittle and over time muscle tears and joint destruction becomes significantly more problematic. My point is do not abuse your body. Steroids don't make you superman even if you feel like they do.

 

[ripper908]

Diet and training should be dialed in before you consider gear and it should be dialed in when on gear lol

seen so many guys go hard only when on gear and eat good, get off and slack on training and eat like crap and complain they lose all their gains. And it will blame it on not being on gear

 

[BabaJagga]

I think minimum effective volume and maximum recoverable volume as well as how high intensity gets can change.

Recovery is better on gear and with more food, which you can utilize better due to the gear and not get fat, so you can use more food.

Going on blast i can recover from more volume. In contrast: If I train with a natural regularly for example, and I was doing high volume legs during a blast, I would not expect him to do all the sets at the highest intensity possible and recover properly. Similarly when I reduce the gear, I cannot tolerate as much volume, and I do need to remove some working sets or intensifiers if I want to be able to recover well.

Second-because at certain points during a cycle tendons do not develop or repair as quickly as muscles, the rep scheme and tempo might have to change and that means I need to select lower loads. Some guys have very robust joints so it’s not as important, but small jointed, or lanky guys need to pay even more attention to this on cycle because that body type tends to have joints that are comparatively weak. Joints will get overworked, brittle or develop potential overuse injuries so you have to give them a break while continuing to train close to failure, and also train the tendons. In this kind of situation it’s good to increase reps and TUT, and decrease weight until joints can handle higher loads, less reps.

Last thing— if you’re on a cycle and have caloric surplus with good diet and training— every single session you should be progressively overloading. If not youre either A. A pussy B. Have a faulty protocol or C. Both

If you’re not making progress like that and youre not training like a bitch it means you need to adjust something

i would add that deload weeks are needed and beneficial. if one is doin high intensity to failure, with dropsets for example and spotters help with negative reps, every traning day, it will tax the soft tissue, joints and cns. even with high mg and kcal
i need deaload weeks and after every one i feel better and stronger.