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Has anyone here used Bold Cyp before? What are your thoughts on it? I have only ever run EQ, but I am considering trying Bold Cyp on my next cycle. From what I understand, it builds up a bit faster than EQ because of the shorter ester, so blood levels should stabilize sooner and you do not have to wait as long for it to fully kick in.

If you have experience with both, did you actually notice a meaningful difference in how they felt or performed?
I’ve only ran bold cyp once. I ran test, npp, and bold cyp for weeks and I rolled this right into a test, deca, eq cycle.

I have nothing bad to say about it. If you don’t have time for eq to reach saturation bold cyp is a good option.
 
homie don’t worry about throwing a freebie for me. Tren treats me well I’ll eventually use the E. I appreciate you. On a side note, ur winny hitting harder in the gym then another vendors I was using. You got a new regular my brothaaaa
Haven’t tried the Winny (yet) but 40 of D’s Anavar hits the same / harder than 50 of lots of others I’ve tried.
 
Just started my first cycle in ~6 years with Defiant! Running 400mg test cyp/300mg bold cyp. The test is from elsewhere but can confirm that the bold cyp was absolutely pipless. Have done two pins so far and this morning I can see the transformation beginning in the mirror in my quads and obliques.

Never ran boldenone before but if I respond well to it this cycle I'm gonna want to pick up a lot more. I aim to run a marathon next year and hoping that the increased endurance will allow me to keep up my aerobic base easier in the meantime. I don't think I'd ever do EQ though, the long ester just seems like such a liability.
 
I’ve only ran bold cyp once. I ran test, npp, and bold cyp for weeks and I rolled this right into a test, deca, eq cycle.

I have nothing bad to say about it. If you don’t have time for eq to reach saturation bold cyp is a good option.
Thanks man, appreciate the insight. I’ll give bold cyp a try next time out of pure curiosity. EQ sends my hematocrit straight into the stratosphere, but hey, it is always good to add another option to the collection.
 
Thanks man, appreciate the insight. I’ll give bold cyp a try next time out of pure curiosity. EQ sends my hematocrit straight into the stratosphere, but hey, it is always good to add another option to the collection.
That’s a good point you brought up. If your hematocrit gets high on bold cyp, you can stop and will clear out much faster than EQ would have.
 
Haven’t tried the Winny (yet) but 40 of D’s Anavar hits the same / harder than 50 of lots of others I’ve tried.
Glad to hear you're loving the Var. As soon as I find some raw I'll be pressing some 20's and 50's. I'm out of my personal stash now too so hoping I find some soon.
Just started my first cycle in ~6 years with Defiant! Running 400mg test cyp/300mg bold cyp. The test is from elsewhere but can confirm that the bold cyp was absolutely pipless. Have done two pins so far and this morning I can see the transformation beginning in the mirror in my quads and obliques.

Never ran boldenone before but if I respond well to it this cycle I'm gonna want to pick up a lot more. I aim to run a marathon next year and hoping that the increased endurance will allow me to keep up my aerobic base easier in the meantime. I don't think I'd ever do EQ though, the long ester just seems like such a liability.
Music to my ears brother. Glad the Bold Cyp is treating you well and good luck in your Marathon. Stock is running pretty low now and not sure when we'll be restocking. I haven't seen any raw around at all.
 
Glad to hear you're loving the Var. As soon as I find some raw I'll be pressing some 20's and 50's. I'm out of my personal stash now too so hoping I find some soon.

Music to my ears brother. Glad the Bold Cyp is treating you well and good luck in your Marathon. Stock is running pretty low now and not sure when we'll be restocking. I haven't seen any raw around at all.
Thanks for the update. Any rough idea how much Bold Cyp is left? I might just grab whatever remains, purely to help with inventory management… and maybe make sure @DeodatoFulci doesn’t get his hands on it.
 
I might be wrong. Please correct me if I am.

Test suspension is usually in water, but a suspension could also be in oil

The TNE Defiant and most other labs brew is a solution.

The difference is that when you inject a suspension, the testosterone "crystals"? don't start dissolving until they are in your tissue. The sit for a long time and cause a high area under an elevated curve

Brewed TNE is a solution where the testosterone is already disoved in a liquid. Your body starts picking it up as soon as you inject it, and the crystals don't sit and dissolve across a long period of time
Sounds accurate. Your body will aromatize TNE massively. This is well known. Testosterone without an ester attached, whether in water or oil makes no difference, will massively convert to estrogen without substantial AI support.
 
@AllGoodThings, couldn't u comment and maybe give some insight. I was trying to find the study.
"It doesn't stick around long enough to aromatize to any great extent"

Methyl Mike, is this speculation or is there some literature u could point us in the direction of. Maybe some personal blood work?
 
@AllGoodThings, couldn't u comment and maybe give some insight. I was trying to find the study.
"It doesn't stick around long enough to aromatize to any great extent"

Methyl Mike, is this speculation or is there some literature u could point us in the direction of. Maybe some personal blood work?
I was wrong about that. TNE does indeed aromatize, and as @Methyl Mike stated, can do so very significantly as test levels will spike far beyond what esterfied testosterone injections will ever produce, at just a fraction of the dose. I'm not sure exactly how this translates into estrogenic sides, but I'm sure it's going to be an individual response kind of thing. I've not noticed anything personally when using it at doses of 100-150mg 4 or 5 days a week. That's just me though, I'm not a heavy aromatizer at all.
 
Thanks man, appreciate the insight. I’ll give bold cyp a try next time out of pure curiosity. EQ sends my hematocrit straight into the stratosphere, but hey, it is always good to add another option to the collection.
Eq was never meant to be ran higher than about 150mgs a week. That's where you get Max benefit IE appetite stimulation, favorable nutrient partitioning etc. It should never be used as a main anabolic driver In any cycle. That's the job of testosterone or, if not well tolerated, nandrolone.
 
@AllGoodThings, couldn't u comment and maybe give some insight. I was trying to find the study.
"It doesn't stick around long enough to aromatize to any great extent"

Methyl Mike, is this speculation or is there some literature u could point us in the direction of. Maybe some personal blood work?
Bro I've been at this decades and it's very well known test suspension heavily aromatizes. Off hand I recall the last anabolic review that was published (years ago) and the profile for suspension stated gyno was a foregone conclusion.
Now, in modern times it's use as a pre workout is novel in my opinion. I had only heard of it being used just before contest time a few days out to enhance glycogen uptake. Which is does better than anything except insulin. Keep in mind conversion to estrogen is highly fat dependent as aromatase is primarily concentrated in adipose tissue. So, if already pretty lean suspension won't convert as much as it would if you were fat. This is all dependant on genetics as well. But ideally you'd only use it pre contest and on a host of other compounds including strong AI support.

You can use suspension as a stronger version of propionate if needed. It will form a depot at site and elevates test levels for around 3 days though it's really not ideal used like this.
 
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