TRT on Sustanon. Want to increase weekly dose of 130mg without sides.

[ilosaari]

I’m on TRT with Sustanon, 3x per week (Mon/Wed/Fri), estimated ~130–140 mg/week after dead space loss.
I can’t really increase the dose, because even a small bump gives me sides like: mood swings, irritability / short fuse, sensitive nipples ( this actually not now since I dropped body fat from 22 to 17).

Any idea if it would be easier for me to switch to something like Enanthate? I would like to try how I feel with higher T levels than currently achieving with sust and also at some point (after getting body fat to 10% range) doing a "mini cycle" or trt+ with maybe 250-300mg.
A lot of people seem to do fine with 180-200mg with Enanthate or Cyp. Or is it just my aromatization that keeps fucking me up? I am thinking of this because I know that sust is not that good. It has too much of fast acting test as you can see from my bloods.

Age 42, 184cm, weight 86kg, fat ~17%

Bloods

• ~3 days post shot: TT 28.6 nmol/L (8–32), FT 509 pmol/L (220–800), SHBG 23 (18–54)
• ~5 days post shot: TT 21.1 nmol/L, FT 330 pmol/L, SHBG 33
  

Thx!

 

[IndividualMan]

just add exemestane if you want to up the dose but get E2 sides.
also, get your hs E2 done.
12.5mg (or 10mg if you go UGL) 2x per week is elright, and pinning EOD is a good choice on sustanon. 3x weekly works with cyp or E, but sustanon should be done EOD or daily if you have the sides you just described.

 

[Cyp180]

I’m on TRT with Sustanon, 3x per week (Mon/Wed/Fri), estimated ~130–140 mg/week after dead space loss.
I can’t really increase the dose, because even a small bump gives me sides like: mood swings, irritability / short fuse, sensitive nipples ( this actually not now since I dropped body fat from 22 to 17).

Any idea if it would be easier for me to switch to something like Enanthate? I would like to try how I feel with higher T levels than currently achieving with sust and also at some point (after getting body fat to 10% range) doing a "mini cycle" or trt+ with maybe 250-300mg.
A lot of people seem to do fine with 180-200mg with Enanthate or Cyp. Or is it just my aromatization that keeps fucking me up? I am thinking of this because I know that sust is not that good. It has too much of fast acting test as you can see from my bloods.

Age 42, 184cm, weight 86kg, fat ~17%

Bloods

• ~3 days post shot: TT 28.6 nmol/L (8–32), FT 509 pmol/L (220–800), SHBG 23 (18–54)
• ~5 days post shot: TT 21.1 nmol/L, FT 330 pmol/L, SHBG 33

Thx!

Prescribed Sust ?
Try to get E instead or U for much better blood serum if you inject eod.
28nmol/L is just in high range of 8.6-29nmol/L

 

[buck]

So what are your E2 levels?

 

[thegreatestalltime]

I’m on TRT with Sustanon, 3x per week (Mon/Wed/Fri), estimated ~130–140 mg/week after dead space loss.
I can’t really increase the dose, because even a small bump gives me sides like: mood swings, irritability / short fuse, sensitive nipples ( this actually not now since I dropped body fat from 22 to 17).

Any idea if it would be easier for me to switch to something like Enanthate? I would like to try how I feel with higher T levels than currently achieving with sust and also at some point (after getting body fat to 10% range) doing a "mini cycle" or trt+ with maybe 250-300mg.
A lot of people seem to do fine with 180-200mg with Enanthate or Cyp. Or is it just my aromatization that keeps fucking me up? I am thinking of this because I know that sust is not that good. It has too much of fast acting test as you can see from my bloods.

Age 42, 184cm, weight 86kg, fat ~17%

Bloods

• ~3 days post shot: TT 28.6 nmol/L (8–32), FT 509 pmol/L (220–800), SHBG 23 (18–54)
• ~5 days post shot: TT 21.1 nmol/L, FT 330 pmol/L, SHBG 33

Thx!

Sustanon is superior to enanthate for your purposes. I would lose body fat before I made any other changes. Less fat, less side effects, better outcome.

 

[adrenalytic]

getting down to 10% bf will probably be enough where you can increase your dose to 300. That's what I cruise on (enanthate), no AI with E2 in the high 20s low 30s. Everybody's different of course but losing weight never hurts. Fat is where aromatase enzymes live.

 

[ilosaari]

Prescribed Sust ?
Try to get E instead or U for much better blood serum if you inject eod.
28nmol/L is just in high range of 8.6-29nmol/L

Yes prescribed sust. In my country if I want E i need to go ugl. Which is defo an option

 

[ilosaari]

So what are your E2 levels?

Last I checked a year a ago e2 was 27pg/ml with similar dose as now. A year ago I took shot every 5 days and not like i do now.

 

[ilosaari]

Sustanon is superior to enanthate for your purposes. I would lose body fat before I made any other changes. Less fat, less side effects, better outcome.

This seems like the best thing to do.

 

[buck]

I find test E or C easier to control blood levels with as there is only 1 ester that needs to be juggled with. With 3x week dosing levels would be fairly constant with those esters. Losing body fat should help. But without blood work guessing your E2 levels from a test a year ago is just a guess.

 

[webstar138]

I find test E or C easier to control blood levels with as there is only 1 ester that needs to be juggled with. With 3x week dosing levels would be fairly constant with those esters. Losing body fat should help. But without blood work guessing your E2 levels from a test a year ago is just a guess.

Im a MWF pin kind of guy as well. Feel better than 2x a week for sure

 

[Cyp180]

Yes prescribed sust. In my country if I want E i need to go ugl. Which is defo an option

Where you from ?

Nowhere the have Cypionate, E or Nebido ?

 

[ilosaari]

Where you from ?

Nowhere the have Cypionate, E or Nebido ?

Nordics. In EU i don't even know if cyp or E is sold. Nebido I could get.
Have not done too much digging into Nebido. Just read a lot of people saying it's not that good. Do you know something about Nebido?

 

[Cyp180]

Nordics. In EU i don't even know if cyp or E is sold. Nebido I could get.
Have not done too much digging into Nebido. Just read a lot of people saying it's not that good. Do you know something about Nebido?

In Germany is E the kind of esters to use. Nebido is Undecanoate. In Holland the protocol is often, 4ML 1000mg (boost) and 125mg following weekly. Its a long acting ester ideal for TRT, and result in steady serum