I see in your "cutting cycle" topic you say you wanted to avoid non-aromatizing compounds, and it sounds like you had some ups and downs when experimenting with anavar, primo, mast and test. I can relate to that. My estradiol test came back today at 94.
I'm not being shitty. But what part of your current physique or training program requires the use of anything above trt right now?
Like if you were to look in the mirror and gauge the risk / reward ratio that your current physique warrants..... would you land on the answer of having to take the most neurotoxic PED on earth?
Or would you look at it and say, you know what, this just needs some good discipline, a solid food plan and some hard work in the gym.... and maybe a little trt.
lets go step by step. Bloodwork, food, training, drugs.
What were your testosterone and estradiol numbers when you were having a hard time managing it? What E2 sides were you having and at what levels?
Can you share your lipid panels, CRP, Cystatin C, GGT, prolactin..... all that stuff? Have you checked your IGF-1? Did you have any hematocrit problems on higher test?
I am especially interested in your SHBG and DHT levels, and I will explain why when we get there. Which testosterone ester were you using?
What's your blood pressure.
To start. I was a heroin and meth addict for a decade. I haven’t touched a single mind altering substance including alcohol or weed since 2012. Yeah Tren is bad. But it ain’t the stuff that should have killed me long ago. That is not to say I take it lightly.
I’m working of building a physique while at the same time raising a family and supporting a wife and working as an engineer. So am I trying to take the easy route? Sure. But really to me I’m trying to take the possible route. With my life I proven to myself I can only take my physique so far naturally. Since I’ve built the physique I have with PEDs, which may not be tren worthy to you, my wife grabs my ass when I walk by. She touches my chest when my shirt is off. Those things to a man like me make life worth living. I ride a motorcycle to feel something. Could it kill me? Sure and it’s super likely to. But it won’t ruin my life and relationships in the meanwhile like the things I used to do. And I’ll die a happy man. Now I appreciate your concern. But my question was about if I should add Hgh or if it could help me. Or maybe it or something else could replace the highly neurotoxic Tren I’ve been taking.
Anyways, I digress. To answer your questions:
The sides I got from high test were hell. Headaches, fatigue broken libido, high hematocrit to where I had to donate, joint stiffness, heart palpitations. Really terrifying hear palpitations. It’s simply not something I want to play with again. I’ve had my e2 up in the 90s and bottomed out to single digits. I’d have to get on my computer to pull up all my historical bloodwork. I had my shbg tanked and free test sky high where I’m just aromatizing like crazy. DHT sky high. On top of that taking finasteride because my hair started falling out. This all happened very quickly. I threw in the towel. Decided trt level test was good with me.
I only ever have been on test cyp
Also blood pressure is 118/72 currently. I check it everyday. It was out of control in high test doses. Like 145/90.
I don’t think I have checked IGF-1 ever.
Lipid panels have only been slightly elevated. LDL high with low hdl. Fixed that with ezitimibe and fish oil. I’m in normal ranges now.
I eat a clean diet. I was vegan for 15 years. Since bodybuilding I’ve introduced lean meats so I eat lots of salmon, trout, tuna and chicken.
Typical day:
Breakfast:
Black coffee
Keto bread with peanut butter
Workout 5x/wk
Protein shake with creatine and collagen
Lunch:
Low fat cottage cheese
Nut and dried fruit mix
Kale salad
Meat stick
Tuna salad
Low-fat Greek or “protein yogurt”
Dinner:
Chicken or fish
Quinoa or brown rice
Half a sweet potato
