Paranoia no matter what cycle?

[happymotherf]

When i first started peds, i could take way more, including tren and i would get agressive and paranoid but i could just ignore it. Like thinking every dude in the car infront of me drives slow cause he wants to fight me. Then over time paranoia with 19 nors became worse and within 2 days of combining npp and tren i was in my bed shaking scared how some people will defnitelly pull up to our house and kill us, thought i was being followed etc. Went off the steroids, paranoia went away. Tried reducing the dosage drastically and as this last cycle did test only, still within days terrible god awful paranoia. I tried 5htp, l tyrosine, gaba etc but i think im just one of those thats predisposed to bad mental effects of steroids, i go thru a rollercoaster, mania, feeling like im on top of the world then feeling awful. Has anyone figured out what this is about?

 

[BALLISTIC]

Trenbolone and NPP/Deca hit the brain differently than testosterone. Causing reduction of your serotonin, increased norepinephrine, changes to dopamine signals, alter your threat perception, cause weak ass impulse control. Then lowered emotional filtering doesn't help. Straight up androgen triggered paranoia.

You also may be predisposed to bad mental effects and AAS.

Nandrolone lowers dopamine slowly, causes mild prolactin increase, filled with mild CNS suppression, hindering mental processing, but also being anti-anxiety.

Tren skyrockets dopamine rapidly, spikes your norepinephrine while overactivating the amygdala, launches fight-flight response in either direction (paranoia), while causing intrusive thoughts, and very much pro-anxiety

You get a neuro tug-of-war having 1 foot on the brake with your other stomping on the gas. Combining these two works for some but ultimately it's counterproductive.

I don't know what dose of test your on, but I would cruise on the minimal necessary to function normally. Let receptors relax for several months, and know that you suffer from a form of severe mental neurochemical reaction. These compounds do not fit you. Maybe in the future 1 or the other.

 

[happymotherf]

Trenbolone and NPP/Deca hit the brain differently than testosterone. Causing reduction of your serotonin, increased norepinephrine, changes to dopamine signals, alter your threat perception, cause weak ass impulse control. Then lowered emotional filtering doesn't help. Straight up androgen triggered paranoia.

You also may be predisposed to bad mental effects and AAS.

Nandrolone lowers dopamine slowly, causes mild prolactin increase, filled with mild CNS suppression, hindering mental processing, but also being anti-anxiety.

Tren skyrockets dopamine rapidly, spikes your norepinephrine while overactivating the amygdala, launches fight-flight response in either direction (paranoia), while causing intrusive thoughts, and very much pro-anxiety

You get a neuro tug-of-war having 1 foot on the brake with your other stomping on the gas. Combining these two works for some but ultimately it's counterproductive.

I don't know what dose of test your on, but I would cruise on the minimal necessary to function normally. Let receptors relax for several months, and know that you suffer from a form of severe mental neurochemical reaction. These compounds do not fit you. Maybe in the future 1 or the other.

But this very word PARANOIA, idk why it happens so much as ive never been a paranoid person before. Ive just gone off all peds been a week and i feel million times better.

 

[BALLISTIC]

But this very word PARANOIA, idk why it happens so much as ive never been a paranoid person before. Ive just gone off all peds been a week and i feel million times better.

I've read before that people who experience this relate it to being way to high on cannabis. Basically the cops are after me just because they're simply behind you. In this case your totally legal not doing anything or possessing anything you shouldn't, but the brain can't process the reality clearly.

Tren alters the brain’s dopamine, norepinephrine, and amygdala in simple terms the threat processing circuits of your brain. Typically more prevalent with low natural dopamine and serotonin. Those where it is naturally high can tolerate Tren. This is why we have knuckle heads taking crazy doses when 150 a week will do incredible things.

I've never experienced this with Tren or Nandro. Tren however has made me have some judgement calls I wouldn't have done otherwise. Basically some of my bad decisions were therapeutic. Nandro and I are best friends, literally no issues ever.

 

[Psy-chonaut]

Agree with what @BALLISTIC are saying, but I will add that all AAS are more or less all neuro toxic, changing brain chemistry amygdala, sympathetic/para-sympathetic nerve system, you would think it's dose dependent..... But idk?
Worst or most ridiculous case I saw, was a guy running low dose test and deca like he had many times before, he then added a small amount of DHT for the first time (mast) , and went ballistic paranoid+anxiety - split with his wife, sold his flat and summer residence, scared and shaking all over his body.....

The interesting thing is, that a diagnosed but unmedicated ADHD guy like me, might do very well with Deca/Npp cause it slows down dopamine transportation .... Have tripped over some discussion 'here and there' about this subject.... But it's only theoretical discussions.

But heard of several cases where people just can't tolerate 19-nors anymore, just from one cycle to the next with the same dosing+ protocol....

 

[Elektrobot]

When i first started peds, i could take way more, including tren and i would get agressive and paranoid but i could just ignore it. Like thinking every dude in the car infront of me drives slow cause he wants to fight me. Then over time paranoia with 19 nors became worse and within 2 days of combining npp and tren i was in my bed shaking scared how some people will defnitelly pull up to our house and kill us, thought i was being followed etc. Went off the steroids, paranoia went away. Tried reducing the dosage drastically and as this last cycle did test only, still within days terrible god awful paranoia. I tried 5htp, l tyrosine, gaba etc but i think im just one of those thats predisposed to bad mental effects of steroids, i go thru a rollercoaster, mania, feeling like im on top of the world then feeling awful. Has anyone figured out what this is about?

Do what this says and the voices will go away: Mute Button

 

[Ghoul]

Less brain means it can’t absorb as much Tren as when you had all of your brain.