Earthworm Jim
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Ive learned so much from from this
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trtbuilder
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Oh, another problem that Axle definitely isn't responsible for. It's just normal GSO or MCT guys, calm down.
Tommygunz1401
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Would you run the gcms on the tc300 batch 013 you sent in for hplc jano has sample still stored he could run it on?
It’ll keep crashing back after it’s crashed once.
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EQ’s unlikely to crash at standard doses but can crash at higher doses especially if the raws have solidified before at some point. This makes it more likely for it to return to a solidified state in the future.
While the raw itself stays liquid at room temperature, the mixture with carrier oil can still become unstable at lower temperatures. The boldenone undecylenate can separate or partially solidify within the carrier oil matrix, especially at concentrations above 200mg/mL.
Even with liquid raw, BA/BB help create a homogeneous, stable solution. Without adequate solvents, you can get phase separation.’
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Question1, Do you have a estimated time for new batch to be ready and replace these crashed vials?
Question 2, If we wanted to try to fix these at home, what is your recommendation? I tried some EO to no avail, I think Photon mentioned adding some BB. Curious on your thoughts.
You are such a clown, with these bullshit trying to justify I don't know what.
RockyP
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Using the inversion principle, if one were to try to create an EQ solution that crashed, what would one do? It’s liquid without adding solvents right? What would you need to do to something that’s liquid as a raw to make it crash? I’m being sincere in this question as I don’t think it’s really been answered. Folks have said they’ve never seen or heard of crashed eq before (myself included), but no real explanation. The jano report shows it’s EQ in there at the advertised dosage. Has anyone run a GCMS on this crashed EQ? Could a specific contaminant cause it to precipitate?
High purity EQ the one that is not liquid but more a sticky goo has issue holding at higher concentration even 300mg/ml.
Reason? Unknown but that was reported by multiple sources, Tracy from QSC as well.
Now does the source have the purity test on this EQ raw?
One reason could be that he has 96+/98℅ purity raw and he uses the same recipe for lower purity raw that would make the EQ not able to hold as high purity sticky goo EQ is a completely different beast. Now as everyone is reporting that the EQ is crashing I doubt that the vendor when packing the vials didn't see it as well, so why it was sold?
There are so many questions that are not answered, it's a whole sketchy situation.
I have no idea how to make a substance like EQ that is liquid crash, I have mixed and brewed EQ with 0 heat just as a test for example and it mix completely fine very quickly, to have the raw goes out of solution and crash.... I have zero clue, freezing?
RockyP
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Thank you for this.
IIRC Axle has said from the beginning that the EQ raws they had were very high purity. That being said it’s still a brewer fuck up to not adjust accordingly. What good is having high purity raws if they end up unusable?
Whistles77
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You'd have though that a report of high purity EQ raws would be proudly shared. The recent raws testing shared was for MastE, Primo, TP, TC, TE, Anadrol. The EQ testing shared was HPLC of the finished oils.
Edit: Adding HPLCs
EQ500 Janoshik Analytical
EQ300 Janoshik Analytical
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Where is the labtest? What one say and what one can prove is something different entirely.
What EQ has been sent to test? If it crash it can't be HPLC correctly as it would come out underdosed so how was it tested? Why the sample wasn't crashed? It was? There are so many holes in this whole story that lol
Why he sent a whole batch of crashed EQ to his clients anyway?
Whistles77
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Jano heats where necessary "Yes, that could be the case as well, but we usually inspect oil vials for crashing and heat them if necessary." Reference: Neo Anabolics (US DOMESTIC)
RockyP
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All valid questions. Wasn’t defending any practices. I’m interested in the science behind this crashed eq
Lobsterneck7
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FWIW my recent batch of EQ 300 did not arrive crashed… still plan to use it.
Tommygunz1401
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did you order after he re opened in November?
Hmm Axle said he would let us know when a new uncrashed batch was available.
I hope that is still the truth.
Savagesteve
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My normal dose deca was crashed all to shit and keeps doing so…
RockyP
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Interestingly there haven’t been any complaints / issues with the coveted Mast E….
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