How long can steroids last?

[Chrispy62]

I’m planning on buying 4 vials of primo and 4 vials of mast from a UGL and I want to do tests on them to make sure I’m injecting the correct substance and at the purity that it was labelled at.

I was planning upon receiving them, putting 0.25 ml from each vial into one that I can ship to Janoshik? So 1ml of primo (0.25 from each sample) and the same with the mast. This is so I can get all 4 vials tested and provides variance.

But I’m wondering would opening the vial and piercing it once make it not last as long? Would I be better off just testing 1 ml from one sample?

 

[IndividualMan]

that testing concept is kind of stupid. just test 1 vial of both and get it over with. the way you are trying to do it creates a whole new host of problems.

I would use vials in about 10-20 weeks after opening, but its not that deep. just dont use half, and then store the rest for years. thats a recipe for disaster.

 

[Ghoul]

It would matter if these were being produced in an aseptic pharma factory with the air in the vial headspace removed and replaced with nitrogen, instead of

 

[Spaceman Spiff]

lets assume 3+ years, stored dark, cool place, and upright


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[rtrnofbesoge]

It would matter if these were being produced in an aseptic pharma factory with the air in the vial headspace removed and replaced with nitrogen, instead of

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Great picture

 

[Maiandros88]

lets assume 3+ years, stored dark, cool place, and upright


/threadIn 3 years maybe don’t have rubber stoppers

 

[Ghoul]

Worth mentioning if long term storage is on your mind, stick with MCT, and avoid GSO.

 

[Maiandros88]

Worth mentioning if long term storage is on your mind, stick with MCT, and avoid GSO.

What happens in GSO based?

 

[IndividualMan]

GSO oxidizes fast. goes bad in a year or two. even if unopened

 

[Maiandros88]

GSO oxidizes fast. goes bad in a year or two. even if unopened

Thanks

 

[Ghoul]

What happens in GSO based?

Fastest oxidizing oil used in injectables. Lots of unsaturated fats content. Pharma companies stopped using it years ago, only compounders still following old recipes still use it. (And UGL because some customers want it).

MCT is extremely resistant to oxidation, with the longest shelf life of all carrier oils by far.

Injecting oxidized oils can cause PIP, lumps, send systemic inflammation sky high, and even if you feel none of those things, especially over time, still damage your health.

Coincidentally saw this today on a compounding pharmacy page

https://www.carieboyd.com/news/the-return-of-testosterone-cypionate/

 

[wolf.pack]

All good suggestions. For the ones you're going to test I'd personally store them in the fridge to help slow down oxidation, bacterial growth and the carrier oil going rancid.

 

[Maiandros88]

Fastest oxidizing oil used in injectables. Lots of unsaturated fats content. Pharma companies stopped using it years ago, only compounders still following old recipes still use it. (And UGL because some customers want it).

MCT is extremely resistant to oxidation, with the longest shelf life of all carrier oils by far.

Injecting oxidized oils can cause PIP, lumps, send systemic inflammation sky high, and even if you feel none of those things, especially over time, still damage your health.

Coincidentally saw this today on a compounding pharmacy page

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https://www.carieboyd.com/news/the-return-of-testosterone-cypionate/

Remember back in the day all ugl was using it

 

[Maiandros88]

All good suggestions. For the ones you're going to test I'd personally store them in the fridge to help slow down oxidation, bacterial growth and the carrier oil going rancid.

In fridge for sure it will crush, I have done many times with the same results crushed to crystals

 

[wolf.pack]

In fridge for sure it will crush, I have done many times with the same results crushed to crystals

I've never had a problem with crashing except once with bold cyp. Guess it depends on the compound and how it's brewed.

 

[Ghoul]

Remember back in the day all ugl was using it

Pharma too. It was “good enough” if truly pharma grade and made in pharma factory conditions (vials could have oxygen displaced with nitrogen, bringing oxidation to a complete stop until stopper pierced.)

The folks who had bad reactions to MCT likely had contaminated MCT (we found a sunflower oil blend in a vial that was supposed to be “MCT”), or, if Miglyol (a premium pure MCT), it was Miglyol 840 (a somewhat unnatural formulation which could cause a reaction in some) and not 812 (which is the least allergy inducing oil in existence). There are no known cases of bad reactions to Pharma Miglyol 812 MCT.

 

[Spaceman Spiff]

In fridge for sure it will crush, I have done many times with the same results crushed to crystals

Can reheat with a mug warmer.

 

[Maiandros88]

Can reheat with a mug warmer.

I have see 1-2 vials in my life with crushed gear, specially on winter time … every time send them to the garbage

 

[Spaceman Spiff]

I have see 1-2 vials in my life with crushed gear, specially on winter time … every time send them to the garbage

Uhh definitely not worth trashing

Heat it up, shake it up, crystals will be gone