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It's not as bad as some of the other stuff people posted. I'll probably just toss it. I was more curious if it could be saved bc I have some Masteron and NPP coming from them that I ordered before this shit show started.
adrenalytic
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Taking over MESO and I'm here for it...
It's actually more valuable than the HPLC people jizz in their pants over. Underdosed gear won't kill you.
Earthworm Jim
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I pinned 150mg of that EQ by itself
Does it keep crashing after you reheat it? Just curious.
Earthworm Jim
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Yeah, same experience as everyone else
Your little AI crusade has caught a case of the regardation. All oils are high grade from med lab supply lol. But you do you, feed it reports from a test of pharma grade gear and see what it spews out
No sir. No reselling oils here.
Might be worth questioning the approach being taken here of using AI to provide expert feedback on these tests. Test 5 sources and then prescription gear as the baseline. I can make chatGPT say one accurate thing and then something off the rails 5 minutes later.
Thanks
I added some EO to mine as an experiment. I will know if it stayed in solution once i get home tonight and will report my findings.
Axle has said he will replace the gear anyway so i just wanted to see what it would do.
Just for reference, I ordered EQ300 and EQ500 all came crashed.
Ya I just got back from the gym and it crashed again.
Added EO started at 1ml but had to go up to 1.5ml and that worked, it has stayed in suspension. not sure if i would use it but it has not crashed. correction, upon closer inspection, it has some crystals still. Maybe more EO?
Photon
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Instead of EO you could have added .5ml of this (or 1ml).
Benzyl Benzoate USP/NF 50ML (1.7 oz)
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I got some coming. I’ll try it on the other bottle. Thank you.Instead of EO you could have added .5ml of this (or 1ml).
Benzyl Benzoate USP/NF 50ML (1.7 oz)
Benzyl Benzoate USP 50ml, Ultra Pure/Undiluted (1.7oz). As low as: $4.75-In Stock. Usually ships in 24 hours. Benzyl Benzoate 100ml. Ethyl Oleate 50ml. Guaiacol-50ml.
Middlenamekurt
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So long story short........... what's everyone's concern about their injectables ?
crispybacon!
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Short version - if you have their products or are considering them, it’s in your best interest to read through the thread before proceeding. The list is long, and appears to be growing.
Ghoul
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I made a comment regarding oxidation at the end of this post that is relevant here, but in no way should diminish anyone’s concern over this. It’ll change only as long as customers make clear it matters to them, and it should.
This is one of those things that’s a non issue for pharma only because avoiding it is built into their process.. When they acquire carrier oil the COA do that batch will have the relevant characteristic regarding oxidation levels (should be so low it’s effectively unmeasurable) and characteristics that indicate how resistant it is to future oxidation. Contrary to what Axle said, I don’t believe we’d see anything close to the same oxidation results in pharma produced injectables, but if anyone knows where to find GCMS of pharma branded oil based gear please let me know.
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GCMS for compounded GSO was shared. Would be good to get big Pharma GCMS data points. Great idea.
Ghoul
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As a side note, GSO is a “classic” carrier oil, and in long standing approved recipes compounders can use without requiring special authorization.
However, GSO has been completely phased out by pharma companies since MCT became available at reasonable prices. Quality MCT is extremely resistant to oxidation, while GSO is basically the worst, and goes rancid easily.
Genuine pharma INJECTABLE grade GSO is available, at a premium price, refined to make it as oxidation resistant as is possible. A fresh bottle is guaranteed to come with nearly no oxidation, so it’ll stay within limits for the shelf life of the product.
I would expect compounders to exclusively use the correct GSO, but if they don’t I don’t think I’d be shocked. I guess we’ll find out.
I’d love to see data for a Pfizer or Bayer oil based injectable.
Good clarification. All my big Pharma Test is Cottonseed or Sesame.
Would be great to get some Empower GSO data points.
I will leave it to someone else to confirm tentative aldehyde hits above. Looks really bad though. If Axle was serious he would send blank GSO oil (heat following his recipe plus no heat) samples in and take the COA request seriously.
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