MESO-Rx Sponsor Primal Pharma - US Domestic

[GAredneck91]

@Primal_Pharma placed order everything was good, order complete but now it says payment status canceled??

 

[ZaddyZonar]

@Primal_Pharma placed order everything was good, order complete but now it says payment status canceled??

Consider it a blessing

 

[BuffMaltese]

Turns out the regulated pharma companies are shady and the unregulated ones are shady too. Wild.

 

[M0USE]

Third time ordering. 2-4 days from date of order to touchdown. Always quick and painless. However my EQ looks like Olde English. Cheers?

 

[Wildcard781]

Third time ordering. 2-4 days from date of order to touchdown. Always quick and painless. However my EQ looks like Olde English. Cheers?


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Yeah. Curious about the gold EQ.

 

[Ghoul]

Third time ordering. 2-4 days from date of order to touchdown. Always quick and painless. However my EQ looks like Olde English. Cheers?


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Hopefully it won’t leave a nice, rich, amber layer of varnish in your arteries.

 

[Marksman762]

@Primal_Pharma placed order everything was good, order complete but now it says payment status canceled??

Same thing happened to me a couple weeks ago but the order went through with no problem. Got a confirmation later that day. Probably a glitch.
Just placed an order myself. Will see if my does it again.

 

[M0USE]

Hopefully it won’t leave a nice, rich, amber layer of varnish in your arteries.

Could make for a good baste on the turkey, no?

 

[GAredneck91]

Same thing happened to me a couple weeks ago but the order went through with no problem. Got a confirmation later that day. Probably a glitch.
Just placed an order myself. Will see if my does it again.

Yup, order went through. Got confirmation.

 

[readalot]

Jesus fuck. Enough.. You motherfuckers act as if you’re placing orders at Pfizer…

You think it is unrealistic to find an ethical UG vendor and expect gear that rivals quality found at neighborhood 503A compounding pharmacy? You think it is a bridge too far?

Do what you say. Say what you mean.

Great carrier oils.

Tested raws and finished products.

Accurately dosed.

Numbered and transparent batch lots.

Good hardware.

Pride in craftsmanship.

Sterile gear.

Avoid any potential plastic / additive leaching.

No one will rise to occasion at the right price point?

This is UG so never gonna happen?

Why do we sell ourselves short and not expect the best we can get? Human nature won't allow it?

What is USP 797 and How to Stay Compliant

Discover the updated USP Chapter 797 standards for sterile drug compounding. Learn about new categories, Beyond Use Dates, and essential compliance guidelines

www.wolterskluwer.com

 

[Ghoul]

You think it is unrealistic to find an ethical UG vendor and expect gear that rivals quality found at neighborhood 503A compounding pharmacy? You think it is a bridge too far?

Do what you say. Say what you mean.

Great carrier oils. Tested raws and finished products. Accurately dosed. Numbered and transparent batch lots. Good hardware. Pride in craftsmanship. Sterile gear. Avoid any potential plastic / additive leaching.

Unrealistic? A bridge too far?

That’s really been what “domestic” is supposed to represent over “cheap Chinese gear” right?

Otherwise, it’s just paying a large premium to avoid the risk of getting a customs letter. That may matter if someone’s in a rush, on probation or in a sensitive job, but for anyone else, it’s not really worth it.

I agree, close to what a tiny mom & pop one man compounding pharma can produce is reasonable and within reach.

I’ll add I think the hardware upgrade is commendable and a real step in the direction of harm reduction. Users may not “feel” it, but the fact is every pharma injectable has to prove no harmful chemicals leach from the container into the liquid. Raw bromobutyl rubber is not compatible with oils, especially MCT, while EO and BB are even worse when contacting raw rubber. On top of this, the rubber being used by UGL is generally cheap, non-FDA approved Chinese junk that’s even more prone to turning into mush, and who knows what chems they might be using cut costs. Keeping this crap out of your body is a good thing, period.

Staying out of the primo issue, one final note.

Awareness of oil oxidation is just getting rolling, and I’m not making any excuses for any vendor. However, it’s important to keep in mind we’ve only recently gotten the ability to identify this problem, and only with the minority of vendors that have GCMS data available. I wouldn’t want anyone to get the impression a single vendor is having this issue (especially when they provide the GCMS data) and others (that don’t have GCMS data) have good oil, because I’m pretty sure they’re all slinging oxidized gear. I’ve seen evidence that what’s being sold as “pharma” grade oils to vendors trying to do the right thing is not what’s being represented by the oil sellers. Oil fraud is very common. The best way to avoid this is sticking with reputable brands that come with a COA showing the peroxide value for that batch. Shedding light on this at every opportunity should eventually squash this issue as customers and vendors become aware of this avoidable health risk and only real pharma injectable grade, oxidation resistant oils become the norm, just like small compounding pharmacies use.

 

[Photon]

That’s really been what “domestic” is supposed to represent over “cheap Chinese gear” right?

Otherwise, it’s just paying a large premium to avoid the risk of getting a customs letter. That may matter if someone’s in a rush, on probation or in a sensitive job, but for anyone else, it’s not really worth it.

There's China US dom vendors if the sole goal is avoiding customs. They get much more third party testing than US dom vendors.

 

[newguy2]

There's China US dom vendors if the sole goal is avoiding customs. They get much more third party testing than US dom vendors.

You think so? I guess one is starting to get a decent amount.

 

[SwolieGuacamole]

You think it is unrealistic to find an ethical UG vendor and expect gear that rivals quality found at neighborhood 503A compounding pharmacy? You think it is a bridge too far?

Do what you say. Say what you mean.

Great carrier oils.

Tested raws and finished products.

Accurately dosed.

Numbered and transparent batch lots.

Good hardware.

Pride in craftsmanship.

Sterile gear.

Avoid any potential plastic / additive leaching.

No one will rise to occasion at the right price point?

This is UG so never gonna happen?

Why do we sell ourselves short and not expect the best we can get? Human nature won't allow it?

What is USP 797 and How to Stay Compliant

Discover the updated USP Chapter 797 standards for sterile drug compounding. Learn about new categories, Beyond Use Dates, and essential compliance guidelines

www.wolterskluwer.com

Because they’re bum fucks in real life with no standards or self respect.

We’re arguing with low iq junkies. These are ALL CONTROLLABLE .

 

[Ghoul]

You think so? I guess one is starting to get a decent amount.

Just the sheer volume of sales is probably why more tests appear (few admit it, but *cheap* is often priority #1, and if you can fool yourself into thinking “it’s fine” because of factors not being tested, it makes that decision even easier).

 

[readalot]

We’re arguing with low iq junkies. These are ALL CONTROLLABLE .

Call me stupid at this point.

Have a nice rest of your Thanksgiving.

 

[readalot]

GCMS data available

Incredible how this has progressed in last few years. A real bright spot. No way to hide your oil anymore. Thanks for sharing your thoughts.

 

[Ateam2023]

That’s really been what “domestic” is supposed to represent over “cheap Chinese gear” right?

Otherwise, it’s just paying a large premium to avoid the risk of getting a customs letter. That may matter if someone’s in a rush, on probation or in a sensitive job, but for anyone else, it’s not really worth it.

I agree, close to what a tiny mom & pop one man compounding pharma can produce is reasonable and within reach.

I’ll add I think the hardware upgrade is commendable and a real step in the direction of harm reduction. Users may not “feel” it, but the fact is every pharma injectable has to prove no harmful chemicals leach from the container into the liquid. Raw bromobutyl rubber is not compatible with oils, especially MCT, while EO and BB are even worse when contacting raw rubber. On top of this, the rubber being used by UGL is generally cheap, non-FDA approved Chinese junk that’s even more prone to turning into mush, and who knows what chems they might be using cut costs. Keeping this crap out of your body is a good thing, period.

Staying out of the primo issue, one final note.

Awareness of oil oxidation is just getting rolling, and I’m not making any excuses for any vendor. However, it’s important to keep in mind we’ve only recently gotten the ability to identify this problem, and only with the minority of vendors that have GCMS data available. I wouldn’t want anyone to get the impression a single vendor is having this issue (especially when they provide the GCMS data) and others (that don’t have GCMS data) have good oil, because I’m pretty sure they’re all slinging oxidized gear. I’ve seen evidence that what’s being sold as “pharma” grade oils to vendors trying to do the right thing is not what’s being represented by the oil sellers. Oil fraud is very common. The best way to avoid this is sticking with reputable brands that come with a COA showing the peroxide value for that batch. Shedding light on this at every opportunity should eventually squash this issue as customers and vendors become aware of this avoidable health risk and only real pharma injectable grade, oxidation resistant oils become the norm, just like small compounding pharmacies use.

Amen

 

[readalot]

Amen

He made a great summary.

 

[Ateam2023]

He made a great summary.

I agree 100% I wasn't being sarcastic