Recently switched from Pharma to UGL GH and...

[RockyP]

Recently switched from Pharma (Omnitrope) 4 iu to SSA 36 iu vials. Same dosage. Within 2 days I began to get CTS symptoms again, which had been pretty bad when first starting the Omnitrope even at 2 iu (eventually subsided and never returned even when increasing to 4 iu). Seems the SSA may be a bit overdosed. No increased water retention or any other complaints sometimes reported with UGL HGH.

Just my experience, subject to change of course and YMMV.

 

[johndoe29434]

The Jano test posted for the promo 36iu was 41 and 39, so pretty heavily overdosed.

 

[sherb72]

Recently switched from Pharma (Omnitrope) 4 iu to SSA 36 iu vials. Same dosage. Within 2 days I began to get CTS symptoms again, which had been pretty bad when first starting the Omnitrope even at 2 iu (eventually subsided and never returned even when increasing to 4 iu). Seems the SSA may be a bit overdosed. No increased water retention or any other complaints sometimes reported with UGL HGH.

Just my experience, subject to change of course and YMMV.

Where did you get your omni from?

 

[RockyP]

Where did you get your omni from?

My HRT doc - but since stopped wasting my money on that - you can find Serostim cheaper than what I was paying for Omni - but even that is overkill. The UGL GH is fine. The Serostim purists swear by it and maybe there's something to it, but wouldn't spend the money on that unless I was competing at a high level. Much better off putting that $$ towards quality food and good tren.

 

[sherb72]

Wait so your doc just prescribed you omni? Or were you gh deficient, I'm assuming not.

 

[RockyP]

Wait so your doc just prescribed you omni? Or were you gh deficient, I'm assuming not.

I am an old fart - i acutally was very deficient, IGF-1 was 2.5 standard deviations below normal. But the dosage he prescribed was useless and a waste of time and money.

 

[sherb72]

Oh, understood. Was the SSA gh you got good? Im stuck between pharma or generic

 

[RockyP]

Oh, understood. Was the SSA gh you got good? Im stuck between pharma or generic

Yes SSA was fine. But are they still even around?

 

[sherb72]

Yes SSA was fine. But are they still even around?

Well not really but all the chinese gh comes from a handful of ugls so all of it is basically the same. I've been looking at gh from hyb

 

[sherb72]

May or may not be dropshipped but fuck it

 

[RockyP]

Well not really but all the chinese gh comes from a handful of ugls so all of it is basically the same. I've been looking at gh from hyb

Yeah it's all the same shit with different branding for the most part. Just make sure your batch is tested. Don't go on faith from old COA's. A LOT can change from one batch to the next (sometimes for the better - increased potency - but that can be very uncomfortable when you're pinning 2x the dosage you think you are)

 

[sherb72]

Yeah it's all the same shit with different branding for the most part. Just make sure your batch is tested. Don't go on faith from old COA's. A LOT can change from one batch to the next (sometimes for the better - increased potency - but that can be very uncomfortable when you're pinning 2x the dosage you think you are)

You're completely right. A lot of people have said good things about hyb's gh purity but I'd get it tested anyway

 

[Ghoul]

Yeah it's all the same shit with different branding for the most part. Just make sure your batch is tested. Don't go on faith from old COA's. A LOT can change from one batch to the next (sometimes for the better - increased potency - but that can be very uncomfortable when you're pinning 2x the dosage you think you are)

I’m pretty much convinced all the rHGH active ingredient in China for pharma and UGL, comes from a single, enormous pseudo-government complex called “Somatropin City”.

Production Sites-Changchun GeneScience Pharmaceuticals Co., Ltd.

Production Sites

www.genscigroup.com

(and maybe for other market’s pharma companies too, China is the world leader in bulk active pharma ingredients).

Genetic engineering for recombinant GH manufacturing is no task for a UGL, and given the enormous economies of scale of this government subsidized operation it’s hard to believe anyone could possible compete.

Of course “raw” rHGH is not the finished product by a long shot, and final processing, maybe including purification steps, and certainly formulation with excipients, lyophilization, and product handling make a HUGE difference in quality, and where UGL falls down compared to Pharma.

Or maybe the rHGH batches that make it to UGL are cheap, lower grade rejects (maybe with a label “Unsuitable for human use, livestock / foreigner only” lol).

 

[sherb72]

Production Sites-Changchun GeneScience Pharmaceuticals Co., Ltd.

Production Sites

www.genscigroup.com

" annual production capacity of 75 million somatropin units" jesus

 

[Ghoul]

" annual production capacity of 75 million somatropin units" jesus

Some of us use more than others….

Like 900iu at a time.

 

[sherb72]

Some of us use more than others….

Like 900iu at a time.


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I'm honestly more shocked that he had the money for this

 

[Ghoul]

I'm honestly more shocked that he had the money for this

In 2022 would’ve been quite a bit, and was all Pharma pens most likely from the description.

Probably had a Z score of 175…

Keep it under 3 folks.

 

[sherb72]

In 2022 would’ve been quite a bit, and was all Pharma pens most likely from the description.

where did everyone get pharma pens in 2022

 

[BatmanVAR]

Well not really but all the chinese gh comes from a handful of ugls so all of it is basically the same. I've been looking at gh from hyb

HYB was recently caught selling fake HGH (and Reta too). I'd avoid them like the plague.

 

[sherb72]

HYB was recently caught selling fake HGH (and Reta too). I'd avoid them like the plague.

I've also heard some good stuff about them too, cant trust anyone tbh. Im probably gonna get a little off them and send it in and see what happens. Where did you hear about the fake gh?